| Author | Message | ||
| Sollen (Sollen)
New member Username: Sollen Post Number: 329 Registered: 10-2003 |
Josh is in a car talking with his father when his father pulls up to a curb. A man the father has never spoken to or heard of before walks up to the father gives the father 40 dollars, then tells Josh to come with him. Josh happily gets out of the car and waves goodbye to his father before following the man; Josh and father never see each other again. Neither Josh nor his father are upseat about this or consider it at all unusual, why not? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 962 Registered: 12-2004 |
Josh = H? A? M? Father = H? A? M? A man = H? A? M? | ||
| Sollen (Sollen)
New member Username: Sollen Post Number: 330 Registered: 10-2003 |
Josh = H? A? M? Father = H? A? M? A man = H? A? M? no to josh being adult, yes to rest | ||
| Martinfg (Martinfg)
New member Username: Martinfg Post Number: 621 Registered: 8-2005 |
Is the father Josh's actual biological father? Has Josh seen the man before? | ||
| Sollen (Sollen)
New member Username: Sollen Post Number: 331 Registered: 10-2003 |
Is the father Josh's actual biological father? yes Has Josh seen the man before? yes | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 72 Registered: 11-2008 |
Time period relevant? War relevant? | ||
| Sollen (Sollen)
New member Username: Sollen Post Number: 336 Registered: 10-2003 |
Time period relevant? War relevant? no to both, assume current day time | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 963 Registered: 12-2004 |
Did Josh? and his father? know that they would never see? each other? again? Will Josh and his father ever hear from each other again? Does everybody go blind? Does anybody die? (at some point that is relevant to the puzzle) | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 964 Registered: 12-2004 |
Is Josh's age relevant? | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 74 Registered: 11-2008 |
Was John blind? Was his father? | ||
| Rcs (Rcs)
New member Username: Rcs Post Number: 174 Registered: 9-2008 |
Place relevant? Is the fact that the father gives the man money relevant? Does Josh know the man, even though his father doesn't? | ||
| Sollen (Sollen)
New member Username: Sollen Post Number: 337 Registered: 10-2003 |
Did Josh? and his father? know that they would never see? each other? again? that alot of question marks. yes to all of them Will Josh and his father ever hear from each other again? no Does everybody go blind? no Does anybody die? (at some point that is relevant to the puzzle) nope Is Josh's age relevant? not very, i assume around 7 years old Was John blind? Was his father? nice try, but no Place relevant? no Is the fact that the father gives the man money relevant? yes Does Josh know the man, even though his father doesn't? yes | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 970 Registered: 12-2004 |
Does Josh's father usually let his offspring leave him never to return? Is Josh's father his legal guardian? If so, does the father relinquish guardianship? Does Josh ever see his mother again? Are Josh's mother and father married? Is the man related to Josh? | ||
| Sollen (Sollen)
New member Username: Sollen Post Number: 340 Registered: 10-2003 |
Does Josh's father usually let his offspring leave him never to return? noish Is Josh's father his legal guardian? no If so, does the father relinquish guardianship? see last question Does Josh ever see his mother again? yes Are Josh's mother and father married? no Is the man related to Josh? yope | ||
| Vagary (Vagary)
New member Username: Vagary Post Number: 95 Registered: 11-2008 |
Stop there. You just said the father gave the man money. Puzzle statement says the other way around. Which is right? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 972 Registered: 12-2004 |
Had Josh ever seen his father before? IS JOSH A CLONE?!?!?!?! Are any laws involved? Is Josh's mother his legal guardian? Is Josh's mother married? Is somebody other than Josh's mother his legal guardian? | ||
| Howardwoman (Howardwoman)
New member Username: Howardwoman Post Number: 179 Registered: 1-2008 |
Is the man Josh's stepfather? | ||
| Sollen (Sollen)
New member Username: Sollen Post Number: 341 Registered: 10-2003 |
Stop there. You just said the father gave the man money. Puzzle statement says the other way around. Which is right? okay i'm guilty of assuming the question said something it didin't. the man gave the farther money, and that fact is relevent Had Josh ever seen his father before? no IS JOSH A CLONE?!?!?!?! no Are any laws involved? not really Is Josh's mother his legal guardian? yes Is Josh's mother married? yes Is somebody other than Josh's mother his legal guardian? no Is the man Josh's stepfather? yes practically solved now; anyone want to finish this up? | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 975 Registered: 12-2004 |
Did the father take the son to a Broadway show that only he would be able to go to with the son and the stepfather agreed to pay the father for the cost of the ticket only after the show if and only if Josh was still alive? | ||
| Kdoc (Kdoc)
New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 791 Registered: 7-2001 |
OK... so Josh is in a taxi and the taxi driver is actually his biological father but neither of them are aware of this? perhaps the taxi driver was a sperm donor? or perhaps he didn't know he had fathered a child? or knew he had, but did not know this was his child? and the taxi delivers the child to the child's house where he lives with his mother and stepfather? and the stepfather pays the fare and takes Josh in? | ||
| Vagary (Vagary)
New member Username: Vagary Post Number: 98 Registered: 11-2008 |
So...Josh was a prom-night accident which his father didn't really want; his father is useless, and probably a terrible influence to josh, but wanted to see him once in his life. After getting the chance to do so, his stepfather pays him to get lost forever, and everyone is satisfied with that? Is the above poorly-educated guess close to correct? | ||
| Sollen (Sollen)
New member Username: Sollen Post Number: 343 Registered: 10-2003 |
so Josh is in a taxi and the taxi driver is actually his biological father but neither of them are aware of this? perhaps the taxi driver was a sperm donor? or perhaps he didn't know he had fathered a child? or knew he had, but did not know this was his child? and the taxi delivers the child to the child's house where he lives with his mother and stepfather? and the stepfather pays the fare and takes Josh in? that is it exactly, I guess all that is left to do is say SPOILER you guys solved that fast, I forgot the difference between giving a puzzle to experianced puzzlers vs novices | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 978 Registered: 12-2004 |
I kinda like Vagary's answer better... | ||
| Kdoc (Kdoc)
New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 792 Registered: 7-2001 |
Sorry to jump in with my size nines and finish it off after others had done the hard work... We used to call that 'swooping' - not sure if folk still use that term on here It's actually quite a nice lateral puzzle in the classic style, thanks | ||
| Vagary (Vagary)
New member Username: Vagary Post Number: 100 Registered: 11-2008 |
I've called that "scavenging" haha. | ||
| Sollen (Sollen)
New member Username: Sollen Post Number: 346 Registered: 10-2003 |
I like vagary idea too, mabye i'll save it and create a puzzle around it to post in three months or so when everyone has forgotten it ;) and I have always prefered the classical style so I usualy try to stick close to it. Unfortunatly that seems to make it harder to come up with good puzzles. | ||
| Kdoc (Kdoc)
New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 794 Registered: 7-2001 |
Well it takes me about three years to come up with anything halfway decent so I bow to anyone who can keep inventing them (I'm very envious of Nimue for instance who creates some really good ones) | ||
| Sollen (Sollen)
New member Username: Sollen Post Number: 348 Registered: 10-2003 |
yeah i always use to enjoy nimue's before I disappeared for a year or two. I use to come up with them kind of fast but I sort of used up all my good ideas a while ago. now I stumble on a good concept once in a great while | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 980 Registered: 12-2004 |
I like the classic style as well, Sollen. I enjoy such seemingly counter intuitive puzzles. Yay! | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 3832 Registered: 12-2000 |
Excellent - sorry I missed this one. I like the classic style ones, but they're hard to think of. | ||
| Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa Post Number: 984 Registered: 12-2004 |
That's what makes them so fun. |
