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Bolapara (Bolapara)
New member Username: Bolapara
Post Number: 239 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 3:32 am: |      |
Most associate it with death, but not for that reason |
Howardwoman (Howardwoman)
New member Username: Howardwoman
Post Number: 275 Registered: 1-2008
| | Posted on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 3:32 am: |      |
Does it have to do with a prison? Death row? Electric chair? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
New member Username: Bolapara
Post Number: 241 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 3:37 am: |      |
Does it have to do with a prison? no Death row? no Electric chair? no |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa
Post Number: 2037 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 3:56 am: |      |
A bird? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
New member Username: Bolapara
Post Number: 247 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 5:31 am: |      |
A bird? no |
Finno (Finno)
New member Username: Finno
Post Number: 2 Registered: 2-2009
| | Posted on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 10:00 am: |      |
Is it a part of human body? |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
New member Username: D_gordon
Post Number: 318 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 5:05 pm: |      |
Is "it" typically found inside a prison? Outside a prison? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
New member Username: Bolapara
Post Number: 248 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 5:22 pm: |      |
Is it a part of human body? no Is "it" typically found inside a prison? no Outside a prison? yes |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa
Post Number: 2046 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 4:34 am: |      |
A skull and crossbones? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
New member Username: Bolapara
Post Number: 249 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 4:40 am: |      |
A skull and crossbones? no |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
New member Username: D_gordon
Post Number: 320 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 5:25 am: |      |
Is it animal? Vegetable? Mineral? Is it alive? "Death" -- in the legal, medical, or even information-theoretic sense? Of humans? Animals? Plants? Other living things? "Not for that reason" -- is some kind of scrund relevant? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
New member Username: Bolapara
Post Number: 251 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 10:33 pm: |      |
Is it animal? no Vegetable?no Mineral?relevant, but it is not a specific mineral Is it alive? no "Death" -- in the legal, medical, or even information-theoretic sense? yes Of humans? Animals? Plants? Other living things? yes to all "Not for that reason" -- is some kind of scrund relevant? I don't believe so. A scrund is a false believe that you would realize was false if you took the time to think about it - like how I used to believe the cotton re-usable hand-dryers in public woman's restrooms were dirty men's underwear when I was little (seriously i did). Right? If so, then a scrund isn't relevant. |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa
Post Number: 2056 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 1:23 am: |      |
Here comes the dissertation on "Animal? Vegetable? Mineral?"
quote: Traditionally, Q's first question (the only one Q may ask that does not allow for a Yes or No answer) is always the same: "Is it animal, vegetable or mineral?" Indeed, in certain parts of the world this game is known as "Animal, Vegetable, Mineral." The two important points above are that * all legitimate targets will fall into one of these three categories or a combination thereof, and * A must choose a legitimate target. One kind of illegitimate target is an object whose very existence is in question, such as Martians or the Loch Ness monster, because A will be forced to answer Q's yes-or-no questions based on mere belief rather than factual knowledge that can certainly be shared. Another example of an illegitimate target is something that has no literal or even literary corporeal existence such as patriotism or haste or the number 6. It's sometimes difficult for A to decide whether to respond with "animal," "vegetable," or "mineral," so here are some examples and other thoughts that might provide help to both A and Q. To begin with, anything that's never been alive is mineral, and everything else must therefore be either animal or vegetable. Let me interrupt to go ahead and get this right. Taxonomists classify life on Earth into five kingdoms, two of which are Animalia (animal) and Plantae (vegetable). The other three are Monera (e.g., bacteria), Protista (e.g., protozoans) and Fungi (e.g., yeasts). Only once in all my experience has an A chosen a target that fell into one of those last three kingda (Hi, KJ). So, if your target is those nasty-tasting mushrooms you got back in college and a Q starts by asking, "So, what is it? Animal, vegetable or mineral?" you should respond with "I can't answer," because mushrooms are none of the above. It is then up to the Qs to follow up. In any case, all such organisms are, of course, legitimate targets. Here are three examples: * If you've chosen as your target the clock inside London's Big Ben, you should answer, "Mineral," because the clock parts are made of steel and brass and copper and so on, which are minerals. * If you've chosen as your target the wool sweater you're wearing, you should say, "Animal," because it's made of wool, which comes from sheep, which am animals. * And if you've chosen the T-shirt that your date is wearing, you should say, "Vegetable," because it's made of cotton, which is a plant. TARGETS MADE OF PLASTIC. Targets made of plastic (floppy disks and trash bags) and other such petroleum-based products (nylon and gasoline) are impossible to classify as animal or vegetable because it is still uncertain in the scientific community whether petroleum comes from dead animals or dead plants (although the most recent evidence I know of, circa 2008, suggests it's both). Therefore, by arbitrary convention, if your target is made from petroleum products you should say, "Vegetable," and as long as Q is aware of this convention, it is then his responsibility to think of asking, "Is it made of plastic?" or some such question. For that matter, even if Q doesn't know this convention, it's still up to him to pursue the "plastic" question. TARGETS MADE OF MORE THAN ONE SUBSTANCE. Often A will choose a target that's made of, say, both vegetable and mineral -- for example, a pencil, which is made of wood and an eraser and paint (vegetables) as well as graphite and a metal ferrule (minerals). In this case, A might say "Vegetable" because a pencil is more vegetable than mineral, although if he said, "I can't answer" that would be OK too. As another example, if A's target is a floppy disk, then he should probably say "Vegetable," (plastic) despite the fact that a minuscule but fundamental portion of the total mass of the target is actually iron oxide (rust), a mineral. In any case, A may declare only one of the three possible substances, so no matter what A declares it's up to Q, if he wants to, to determine more precisely what substance A's target is made of. For the novice who didn't read all the paragraphs above, it's important to understand that when A says, say, "Vegetable," that doesn't necessarily mean that the target is a vegetable such as a carrot. Similarly, the answer "Animal" doesn't necessarily mean that the target is an animal such as a platypus. And, of course, the answer "Mineral" doesn't necessarily mean that the target is a lump of iron. The question "Animal, vegetable or mineral?," as seasoned 20 Questions players know, asks about the primary substance of which the target is made, and every legitimate target, i.e., every possible object or substance in the universe, will be made entirely of animal, vegetable or mineral or any of the four combinations thereof.
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Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 2057 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 1:27 am: |      |
Is it a unique thing in the world? (e.g., my left foot) Is it a class of things? (e.g., motor oils) Or perhaps something abstract? (e.g., the color black, the number schfifty-five) Is it bigger than a breadbox? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
New member Username: Bolapara
Post Number: 253 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 2:37 am: |      |
Is it a unique thing in the world? (e.g., my left foot) yes Is it a class of things? (e.g., motor oils) It isn't, but thats not to say a class of things aren't relevant Or perhaps something abstract? (e.g., the color black, the number schfifty-five) no Is it bigger than a breadbox?yes |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa
Post Number: 2065 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 3:22 am: |      |
Is it Ozzy Osbourne? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
New member Username: Bolapara
Post Number: 256 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 4:42 am: |      |
Is it Ozzy Osbourne? No |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 322 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 4:46 am: |      |
Is cement or concrete relevant? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
New member Username: Bolapara
Post Number: 258 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 4:49 am: |      |
Is cement or concrete relevant? no |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa
Post Number: 2070 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 4:55 am: |      |
A black cat? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
New member Username: Bolapara
Post Number: 260 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 5:00 am: |      |
A black cat? no |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa
Post Number: 2072 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 5:06 am: |      |
Dracula? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
New member Username: Bolapara
Post Number: 261 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 5:25 am: |      |
Dracula? no |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa
Post Number: 2073 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 5:27 am: |      |
World War II. |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
New member Username: Bolapara
Post Number: 262 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 7:30 pm: |      |
World War II. no |
Crazypalpig (Crazypalpig)
New member Username: Crazypalpig
Post Number: 2311 Registered: 8-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 9:12 pm: |      |
To stop further random guessing from the good Docta, I'll pursue the reason... The reason that is mentioned, is it because it kills things? But has now come to symbolize any type of death? Is it something made to kill living things? |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa
Post Number: 2076 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 10:26 pm: |      |
You'll never stop me! The Grim Reaper? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
New member Username: Bolapara
Post Number: 265 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Monday, February 23, 2009 - 12:57 am: |      |
The reason that is mentioned, is it because it kills things? noish But has now come to symbolize any type of death?no Is it something made to kill living things? no The Grim Reaper? no The best way to tackle this is to find out what "it" is. It will probably be much easier if you try to ask about categories of things to do that and then narrow it down, rather than ask about specific objects, events and beings as has been done heretofore. |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa
Post Number: 2078 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Monday, February 23, 2009 - 1:18 am: |      |
Dr Pepper? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
New member Username: Bolapara
Post Number: 267 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Monday, February 23, 2009 - 1:26 am: |      |
Dr Pepper? No |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa
Post Number: 2082 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Monday, February 23, 2009 - 1:35 am: |      |
Is it black in color? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
New member Username: Bolapara
Post Number: 269 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Monday, February 23, 2009 - 2:35 am: |      |
Is it black in color? Depends what part you are looking at it, but in general no |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 2083 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Monday, February 23, 2009 - 3:00 am: |      |
Is it a wild animal? |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 323 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Monday, February 23, 2009 - 3:03 am: |      |
We know that it is bigger than a breadbox. Is it bigger than a refrigerator? Bigger than a two-story house? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 270 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Monday, February 23, 2009 - 3:40 am: |      |
Is it a wild animal? no. last I checked wild animals were animals Is it bigger than a refrigerator? yes Bigger than a two-story house?yes |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 2084 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Monday, February 23, 2009 - 7:35 pm: |      |
Is it considered valuable? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
New member Username: Bolapara
Post Number: 271 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Monday, February 23, 2009 - 7:57 pm: |      |
Is it considered valuable? yes, but beware of FA |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 2089 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Monday, February 23, 2009 - 8:02 pm: |      |
Do you clean it regularly? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
New member Username: Bolapara
Post Number: 277 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 1:08 am: |      |
Do you clean it regularly? no |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 328 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 1:22 am: |      |
Is it something manmade? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 281 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 1:39 am: |      |
Is it something manmade? no |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 332 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 1:55 am: |      |
Is it a particular piece of land on Earth? Alcatraz Island? |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 2090 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 2:18 am: |      |
D. Gordon stole my next question! Does it weigh more than one ton? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 285 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 2:24 am: |      |
Is it a particular piece of land on Earth? yes Alcatraz Island? no Does it weigh more than one ton? yes |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 2094 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 2:49 am: |      |
Is a fjord? |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 2095 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 3:00 am: |      |
Is it a special geographical place? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 288 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 3:35 am: |      |
Is a fjord? no Is it a special geographical place? define special |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 2097 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 4:08 am: |      |
Of particular interest or value; certain; dear; beloved; favored. Everyone is special to someone. |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 291 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 4:54 am: |      |
Of particular interest or value; certain; dear; beloved; favored. yes it is special Everyone is special to someone. and so is everything. so yes this is special going by that criteria. |
Vene (Vene)
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Post Number: 87 Registered: 9-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 8:16 am: |      |
A country? An island? Cape Fear? |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 2102 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 3:31 pm: |      |
Is it bigger than New York City? Is it located on an island? Does it have wild animals? Is it popular with teenagers? Does it have a specific tourist season? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 293 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 9:00 pm: |      |
A country? An island? IT is a country Cape Fear? There seem to be a lot of Cape Fears in a lot of different places. I don't believe it is related but tell me which one you are asking about and I'll answer Is it bigger than New York City? yes Is it located on an island? no Does it have wild animals? yes Is it popular with teenagers? I don't believe its overly popular with teenagers in any part of the world, aside from a few select groups, same as anything, but I could be wrong Does it have a specific tourist season? there are times of the year that you would prefer to visit over other times of the year |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
New member Username: Doctapeppa
Post Number: 2109 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 12:26 am: |      |
Are monkeys seen there? Is it a honeymoon destination? Is it rich in vegetation? Does it have a high crime rate? Is it known for its authentic cuisine? Does it have religious significance? Does it have a coast on the Pacific Ocean? Is it landlocked? Does the United States recognize it as a sovereign state? Is it located in an arid region? Is it located in the Northern Hemisphere? |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 2110 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 12:27 am: |      |
Almost forgot... Is it a member of the G8? UN? EU? NATO? USSR? OPEC? Axis of Evil? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
New member Username: Bolapara
Post Number: 298 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 1:07 am: |      |
Are monkeys seen there? in zoos Is it a honeymoon destination? some people go to sewage plants for their honey moons, others pick hawaii, so how could this be anwered any other way than yes Is it rich in vegetation? define "rich". There is vegetation in existence there Does it have a high crime rate? yes Is it known for its authentic cuisine? Noish. doesn't mean there aren't restaurants devoted to its cuisine though. Completely irrelevent Does it have religious significance? does anything not for at least one religion? Does it have a coast on the Pacific Ocean? yes Is it landlocked? no Does the United States recognize it as a sovereign state? yes Is it located in an arid region? yesish Is it located in the Northern Hemisphere?yes it is a particular area of a country today - my puzzle was worded a bit poorly in regards to that |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 299 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 1:18 am: |      |
Is the country it is in a member of the G8? yes UN? yes EU? no NATO? no USSR? Please use the countries as defined by todays boundaries in your questions - otherwise I'd get as hopelessly confused as I do when someone asks what country my ancestors came from - the town has been in something like 6 different countries in 100 years OPEC? no Axis of Evil? no |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 343 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 1:52 am: |      |
Is it in China? Japan? Russia? The USA? Mexico? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 300 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 2:16 am: |      |
Is it in China? Japan? Russia? this one The USA? Mexico? |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 344 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 2:27 am: |      |
Is it a mountain in Russia? In the Ural Mountains? Caucasus Mountains? Is it a city? A province? Do people associate it with death because of its name? Because of something that happened there? "not for that reason" -- is "that reason" related to the place's name? Something that happened there? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 302 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 2:38 am: |      |
Is it a mountain in Russia? noish In the Ural Mountains? no Caucasus Mountains? no Is it a city?no A province? no Do people associate it with death because of its name? noBecause of something that happened there? yesish "not for that reason" -- is "that reason" related to the place's name? no Something that happened there? yes |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 345 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 2:46 am: |      |
Is it a mountain on the border of Russia and some other country? Is it a piece of land elevated relative to the surrounding terrain? Are any wars relevant to the reason people do associate it with death? To the reason which is not the reason that people associate it with death? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 303 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 2:53 am: |      |
Is it a mountain on the border of Russia and some other country? no Is it a piece of land elevated relative to the surrounding terrain? yes Are any wars relevant to the reason people do associate it with death? yes but there is more than that To the reason which is not the reason that people associate it with death?no |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 2116 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 3:28 pm: |      |
Is it in Siberia? |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 2117 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 3:30 pm: |      |
Oh, and about "scrunds"... On my user page subpage, a scrund is defined as
quote:Scrund - (noun) A [ludicrous] misconception that remains undetected and uncorrected for a long period of time because the subject never arose.
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Kalira (Kalira)
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Post Number: 17 Registered: 2-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 3:44 pm: |      |
So is the "it" from the puzzle statement Russia itself? Or something or some place within Russia? Is the reason people associate it with death that it's effing cold there? Because of the deaths of specific people that happened there? Is either of these the reason from "not for this reason" in the statement? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 305 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 7:41 pm: |      |
Is it in Siberia?yes So is the "it" from the puzzle statement Russia itself? Or something or some place within Russia?this one Is the reason people associate it with death that it's effing cold there? yope, and the reason I said yope is probably obvious now we know its SiberiaBecause of the deaths of specific people that happened there? no Is either of these the reason from "not for this reason" in the statement? no |
Vene (Vene)
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Post Number: 89 Registered: 9-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 10:42 pm: |      |
Are we looking for something more specific than siberia? but not an island. Are we talkin' beyond the polar circle? URSS, cold war, nuclear subs involved? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 308 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 1:34 am: |      |
Are we looking for something more specific than siberia? you are looking for the reason behind "but not for that reason" but not an island. not an island. Are we talkin' beyond the polar circle? Are you asking about the geographic, political, or biological lines of the polar circle? URSS, do you mean the USSR?cold war, nuclear subs involved? No you are looking for a reason why one would associate Siberia with death but one the average person never seems to cnsider. Those are all pretty common things to bring up as reasons for why Siberia and death are interrelated in the western mind |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 2121 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 2:25 am: |      |
Do a lot of people die in Siberia? |
Kalira (Kalira)
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Post Number: 20 Registered: 2-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 3:14 am: |      |
Something just popped into my head... Is it the Siberian tiger? |
Kalira (Kalira)
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Post Number: 21 Registered: 2-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 3:20 am: |      |
Umm... unless by some miracle that's the answer, please excuse the brain lapse. For a minute, Siberian tiger and sabre-toothed cat got mixed up... Kind of sad, really. |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 310 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 3:31 am: |      |
Do a lot of people die in Siberia? possibly Is it the Siberian tiger? no For a minute, Siberian tiger and sabre-toothed cat got mixed up... Kind of sad, really. its not the right answer but there is a Siberian tiger. Think the US usually prefers the term bengal though |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 2143 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 02, 2009 - 7:01 pm: |      |
Because there are more drug-related murders in Siberia than anywhere else in the world? (except the US) |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 331 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Monday, March 02, 2009 - 11:23 pm: |      |
Because there are more drug-related murders in Siberia than anywhere else in the world? (except the US) No |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 359 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 5:28 am: |      |
Is the weather in Siberia relevant to this reason? Any indigenous animals? Indigenous plants? Some human activity? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 337 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 5:53 am: |      |
Is the weather in Siberia relevant to this reason? yesish Any indigenous animals? yes Indigenous plants? yes beware of FA when thinking about above answers Some human activity?no |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 360 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 6:08 am: |      |
Are poisonous plants relevant? Any evergreen trees? Carnivorous animals? Is the death that this reason has to do with human death? Animal death? Plant death? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 338 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 6:12 am: |      |
Are poisonous plants relevant? yes, poisonous to whom and what is irrelevant (hint) Any evergreen trees? yes Carnivorous animals? yes Is the death that this reason has to do with human death? no Animal death?yes Plant death?yes |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 361 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 6:32 am: |      |
Hemlock? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 339 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 6:35 am: |      |
Hemlock? No thats not really deadly at all in comparison |
Kalira (Kalira)
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Post Number: 38 Registered: 2-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 2:13 pm: |      |
Anything to do with the asteroid/comet or whatever it was that caused the huge explosion in Siberia in 1908? |
Blazingphoenix (Blazingphoenix)
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Post Number: 301 Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 7:19 pm: |      |
(Hi everyone! Long time no see!) Since most would think it's deadly because of the cold and inhospitable conditions on the Siberian plateau and all... Is it the radioactivity from the wars and such that is killing the plants and animals? Radioactive plants(poisonous)that get eaten by herbivores who get eaten by carnivores and everyone dies of radiation. Something like that? Just a thought... You said it wasn't human death, but I want to ask anyway... anything to do with how criminals were left out there to fend for themselves? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 340 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 10:46 pm: |      |
Anything to do with the asteroid/comet or whatever it was that caused the huge explosion in Siberia in 1908? no Is it the radioactivity from the wars and such that is killing the plants and animals? no Radioactive plants(poisonous)that get eaten by herbivores who get eaten by carnivores and everyone dies of radiation. Something like that? no Just a thought... You said it wasn't human death, but I want to ask anyway... anything to do with how criminals were left out there to fend for themselves?no |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 2148 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 11:33 pm: |      |
Blazingphoenix! Just in the nick of time. I was just about to tell Bolapara to delete your puzzles from Lateral Limbo... |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 342 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 1:32 am: |      |
Blazingphoenix! No that is not the reason that we are looking for |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 364 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 2:27 am: |      |
Is the relevant poisonous plant an evergreen tree? Could this plant be associated with Siberia because it grows there? But it's not well-known that it does? Or that there are simply more obvious reasons (the cold, the history of the gulags, etc.) to associate Siberia with death? Is the name "Siberia" relevant here? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 345 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 3:18 am: |      |
Is the relevant poisonous plant an evergreen tree? Could this plant be associated with Siberia because it grows there? But it's not well-known that it does? these questions are based on a false assumption Or that there are simply more obvious reasons (the cold, the history of the gulags, etc.) to associate Siberia with death A more obvious reason, but not one of those Is the name "Siberia" relevant here? Noish, and there is some debate as to how Siberia got its name |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 2156 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 9:26 pm: |      |
Does this concern death of poisonous plants? Caused by poisonous plants? Is the false assumption that there are more than one species of poisonous plant that are relevant to the puzzle? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 351 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Friday, March 06, 2009 - 11:39 pm: |      |
Does this concern death of poisonous plants? yes but as stated above it also concerns the death of other things Caused by poisonous plants? no Is the false assumption that there are more than one species of poisonous plant that are relevant to the puzzle? the FA is that D_gordon appeared to think the answer would be found by focusing on one plant. Animal and plant death have both previously been determined to be related to the "not for that reason" statement in the puzzle (see post 338) |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 372 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 8:39 am: |      |
Is the relevant death of carnivorous animals caused by other carnivorous animals? By humans? By forces of nature? Is the relevant death of poisonous plants caused by herbivorous animals? By humans? By forces of nature? Is death of any herbivorous or omnivorous animals relevant? If so, caused by other animals? By humans? By forces of nature? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 352 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 4:06 pm: |      |
Is the relevant death of carnivorous animals caused by other carnivorous animals? By humans? By forces of nature? this one Is the relevant death of poisonous plants caused by herbivorous animals? By humans? By forces of nature? this one Is death of any herbivorous or omnivorous animals relevant? yesIf so, caused by other animals? By humans? By forces of nature? this one |
Kalira (Kalira)
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Post Number: 44 Registered: 2-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 6:53 pm: |      |
Okay, it's a force of nature that we wouldn't expect in Siberia? Are there volcanoes there or something? Any relevant eruptions? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 354 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 4:07 am: |      |
Okay, it's a force of nature that we wouldn't expect in Siberia? maybe, I don't know your education, or memory Are there volcanoes there or something? yes Any relevant eruptions?yes |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 2167 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 08, 2009 - 2:41 pm: |      |
Nobody expects the Siberian volcano! OK, that meme has become very stale very quickly. I shall try to find more MPFC quotes to overuse. |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 380 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 12:34 am: |      |
So was "not for that reason" a volcanic eruption? One that occurred within human history? Before? One that may have caused the extinction of the dinosaurs? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 359 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Monday, March 09, 2009 - 2:11 am: |      |
So was "not for that reason" a volcanic eruption? yesish Before? yes One that may have caused the extinction of the dinosaurs? No but close enough ****SPOILER***** I'm referring to the Siberian traps, whose eruptions are currently believed to be responsible for killing 90% of all life on Earth 250 million years ago - as a result of the eruptions, the gasses they released, and the volcanic rocks that fell from the eruptions (the rocks cover an area about the size of Alaska). Seems a little more deadly than the USSR doesn't it? |