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Gourami (Gourami)
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Posted on Thursday, January 01, 2009 - 8:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Why does Joe keep five broken phones in his glove compartment?
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Does he know they are broken?
Is the number five significant?
Are the phones mobile phones/cell phones?
Are they all of the same manufacturer/model?
Did Joe purchase each of the phones?
Is he the original owner of each phone?
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Does he know they are broken? Yes.
Is the number five significant? Somewhat.
Are the phones mobile phones/cell phones? Yes.
Are they all of the same manufacturer/model? No.
Did Joe purchase each of the phones? Irr.
Is he the original owner of each phone? Irr, let's say yes.
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Is each phone broken in a similar way?
Do they still have limited functionality?
Were they broken deliberately or accidently?
Did Joe break them?
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Is each phone broken in a similar way? Irr.
Do they still have limited functionality? No.
Were they broken deliberately or accidently? Irr.
Did Joe break them? Hm...actually, irr. X)
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OK...
Are any of these relevant: Joe's profession? The circumstances in which the phones were broken? The geographical location? The time / location at which the phones were broken? Whether they were broken simultaneously, at irregular intervals, or at regular intervals?
Does Joe know he (oh, better check - Joe M? A?) has the phones in his glovebox?
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Oh, and is it relevant that the phones are kept in the glove compartment, rather than the trunk/boot or elsewhere in the vehicle?
Are the phones all modern style cell phones, or larger 'bricks' from the dim and distant past?
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OK...
Are any of these relevant: Joe's profession? The circumstances in which the phones were broken? The geographical location? The time / location at which the phones were broken? Whether they were broken simultaneously, at irregular intervals, or at regular intervals? No to all.
Does Joe know he (oh, better check - Joe M? A? Yes.) has the phones in his glovebox? Yes.

Oisin (Oisin)

Oh, and is it relevant that the phones are kept in the glove compartment, rather than the trunk/boot or elsewhere in the vehicle? Most places in the car would work.
Are the phones all modern style cell phones, or larger 'bricks' from the dim and distant past? Modern.
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Is Joe keeping the mobile phones in the glove box because they serve a useful function? If so, could any other object (or set of objects) accomplish that same function? Would working mobile phones serve just as well? Would four broken phones be sufficient? three? two? one?

Or is Joe keeping them there because of a difficult in disposing of them?
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Is Joe keeping the mobile phones in the glove box because they serve a useful function? Yes. If so, could any other object (or set of objects) accomplish that same function? No. Would working mobile phones serve just as well? No. Would four broken phones be sufficient? three? two? one? Sometimes, not always.

Or is Joe keeping them there because of a difficult in disposing of them? No.
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Could Joe foresee circumstances where 5 would not be enough?

Are the phones contained within another object, within the glove box, or are they separate?

Are they attached to any other object?

Is the function which these phones serve one which Joe needs to use every car journey? daily? weekly? very occasionally? or one that he has not yet had cause to use?

Do the mobile phones stay in the glove box during a journey, or are they taken out for use?

Are other people involved? passengers?
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Could Joe foresee circumstances where 5 would not be enough? No.

Are the phones contained within another object, within the glove box, or are they separate? Separate.

Are they attached to any other object? No.

Is the function which these phones serve one which Joe needs to use every car journey? daily? weekly? very occasionally? This.or one that he has not yet had cause to use? Possibly this.

Do the mobile phones stay in the glove box during a journey, or are they taken out for use? Both: they stay in the glove box while Joe drives, but would have to be pulled out to use.

Are other people involved? Yes. passengers? Yes, and...
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Gourami! Your post numbers started over. You look brand new!

Does Joe use the phones to play tricks on his passengers? Or perhaps the passengers are playing a joke on someone else?

Is Joe a taxi driver?(I know you said professions don't matter...)
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Are the phones used to entertain? Does he ever want to fix them? Would one be sufficent first, maybe more needed later? Like his wife and he are trying but don't want more than 5 and for one reason or another he wants his kids to be well aquainted with cell phones? Weird.
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Gourami! Your post numbers started over. You look brand new! The price to pay for getting the "moderator" label, I think.

Does Joe use the phones to play tricks on his passengers? No.Or perhaps the passengers are playing a joke on someone else? No...tiny ish.

Is Joe a taxi driver?(I know you said professions don't matter...) No.

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Are the phones used to entertain? No. Does he ever want to fix them? No. Would one be sufficent first, maybe more needed later? Not really. Like his wife and he are trying but don't want more than 5 and for one reason or another he wants his kids to be well aquainted with cell phones? Weird. No, but funny. =)
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Is the intention that the broken phones be used as if they were working? i.e. held as if they were in use? Does Joe think that he can fool someone with the phones? Is his intention humorous in nature? Is he taking precautions against some future circumstances? Does his vehicle hold a maximum of five people? At the anticipated time of use, will Joe be holding one phone? more than one? Will other occupants of the vehicle be holding phones? Will the vehicle be stationary?

... or is Joe paying homage to a old woubit Christmas puzzle (Five Old Ringers)?

sorry for the somewhat chaotic nature of the questions...
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Is the intention that the broken phones be used as if they were working? Noish. i.e. held as if they were in use? No. Does Joe think that he can fool someone with the phones? Yes. Is his intention humorous in nature? No. Is he taking precautions against some future circumstances? Yes. Does his vehicle hold a maximum of five people? Yes. At the anticipated time of use, will Joe be holding one phone? Yes. more than one? No. Will other occupants of the vehicle be holding phones? YES. Will the vehicle be stationary? Yes. Good questions.

... or is Joe paying homage to a old woubit Christmas puzzle (Five Old Ringers)? lol, not intentionally. Let me see if I can find it...

sorry for the somewhat chaotic nature of the questions...
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Is Joe's intention to escape punishment for a traffic violation?

Any special commuter lanes relevant?
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Is Joe's intention to escape punishment for a traffic violation? Yes!

Any special commuter lanes relevant? No.

Now I'm curious. What was "Five Old Ringers"?
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I had been perusing the archives to try and get some idea of the labyrinthine twists and turns that trap the unwary in a woubit puzzle, and had chanced upon the Christmas puzzle based on the twelve days of Christmas: a cartridge in a square brie, and the five olden kings - the coincidence of the number five and the rings of the mobile phone occasioned my much inferior pun. Sorry!
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Is the traffic violation to do with the prohibition on using a mobile phone while in a car? parking restrictions? speed limits?
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I had been perusing the archives to try and get some idea of the labyrinthine twists and turns that trap the unwary in a woubit puzzle, and had chanced upon the Christmas puzzle based on the twelve days of Christmas: a cartridge in a square brie, and the five olden kings - the coincidence of the number five and the rings of the mobile phone occasioned my much inferior pun. Sorry! Ah, I see it now. lol.

Is the traffic violation to do with the prohibition on using a mobile phone while in a car? parking restrictions? speed limits? This, no to rest.
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Was the intention to interfere with speed measuring equipment? Were they going to pretend to be travelling to an emergency? Any relevant professions?
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Was the intention to interfere with speed measuring equipment? No. Were they going to pretend to be travelling to an emergency? YES! Any relevant professions? Yesish.
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So would the broken mobile phones only be deployed if they were stopped by a cop? Would they pretend to talk into them?

Do they pretend to be Doctors?

Do the broken phones still resemble phones i.e they're not smashed beyond recognition?
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So would the broken mobile phones only be deployed if they were stopped by a cop? Yes.Would they pretend to talk into them? No.

Do they pretend to be Doctors? No.

Do the broken phones still resemble phones i.e they're not smashed beyond recognition? Yes.
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In the scenario that Joe envisages:
He is in the vehicle with four other passengers. They are speeding (is the road relevant - urban area? near a hospital? ambulance station? fire station? police station? on a freeway/motorway?).
They are pulled over by a traffic cop. When they stop, Joe and the passengers each take hold of a mobile phone? Are they pretending to listen to them?
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In the scenario that Joe envisages:
He is in the vehicle with four other passengers. Yesish. They are speeding (Yes. is the road relevant No.- urban area? near a hospital? ambulance station? fire station? police station? on a freeway/motorway? This works.).
They are pulled over by a traffic cop. Yes.When they stop, Joe and the passengers each take hold of a mobile phone? Yes. Are they pretending to listen to them? No.
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Do they (Joe and his passengers) perform any action using the mobile phones? Do they push any of the buttons? Do they talk to each other? Do they complain about the lack of function of the mobiles? "My battery's flat! ... So is mine!... We have no way of letting them know!!!"
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Do they (Joe and his passengers) perform any action using the mobile phones? Sort of. Do they push any of the buttons? Do they talk to each other? Not necessarily. Do they complain about the lack of function of the mobiles? Yes. "My battery's flat! ... So is mine!... We have no way of letting them know!!!" Along these lines, yes.
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So do they ask the cop to contact someone for them?
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Do they complain that something is interfering with their phones so that they do not function? And suggesting that the same thing interferes with the cop's radar measuring their speed?
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So do they ask the cop to contact someone for them? No.

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Do they complain that something is interfering with their phones so that they do not function? Possibly. And suggesting that the same thing interferes with the cop's radar measuring their speed? No.
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They are pretending to be travelling to an emergency. Are they pretending to be any of the following: firefighters? paramedics? relatives of the possible victims? reporters? father-to-be? nurses? priests?
Does Joe question the accuracy of the speed radar in any way? Or is the intention to suggest that he has a compelling reason for speeding?
Is the identity of the other passengers relevant? Are they adults? children? Is Joe's or the passengers' real profession or employment relevant?
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They are pretending to be travelling to an emergency. No; I'm sorry, I shouldn't have answered Yes before. They are pretending an emergency is taking place. Are they pretending to be any of the following: firefighters? paramedics? relatives of the possible victims? Possibly a yesish. reporters? father-to-be? nurses? priests? No to rest.
Does Joe question the accuracy of the speed radar in any way? No. Or is the intention to suggest that he has a compelling reason for speeding? Yes.
Is the identity of the other passengers relevant? Not specifically. Are they adults? Yes.children? Is Joe's or the passengers' real profession or employment relevant? No.
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Interesting - they are pretending an emergency is taking place, they are speeding, but they are not travelling to the emergency...

Are they travelling from an emergency? Escaping an emergency? Or is the pretended emergency taking place in their vehicle?
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Were they just going to hold the phone, or otherwise display it near the driving area, when the cop approached to see if they got a ticket?

Does the fact that inactive cell phone can still be used to call 911 come in to play?

Is this so he can speed across town to a football game, but claim he heard his son was at the hospital, which is conveniently located next to the stadium, and was unable to reach the hospital to see if his son was okay?
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Interesting - they are pretending an emergency is taking place, they are speeding, but they are not travelling to the emergency... Yes.

Are they travelling from an emergency? Yope.Escaping an emergency? Or is the pretended emergency taking place in their vehicle? Yope.

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Were they just going to hold the phone, or otherwise display it near the driving area, when the cop approached to see if they got a ticket? Yesish.

Does the fact that inactive cell phone can still be used to call 911 come in to play? No.

Is this so he can speed across town to a football game, but claim he heard his son was at the hospital, which is conveniently located next to the stadium, and was unable to reach the hospital to see if his son was okay? Wrong circumstances, right idea.
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Is his wife in the car, and he's claiming she's in labor?
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Is his wife in the car, and he's claiming she's in labor? Not necessarily, although that could work in the story.
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Would he be believed if the situation ever happened? Is the situation likely to ever happen? Is it likely to happen more than once?
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Would he be believed if the situation ever happened? Possibly. Is the situation likely to ever happen? Which situation? Is it likely to happen more than once?
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Were they hoping for a police escort?
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Were they hoping for a police escort? No.
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Does he keep any other relevant objects in his vehicle? Would he simply require a broken telephone for himself and each passenger? If the situation happened, and he was exploded, would he likely be charged with perjury or falsification of documentation?
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Does he keep any other relevant objects in his vehicle? No. Would he simply require a broken telephone for himself and each passenger? Yes. If the situation happened, and he was exploded, would he likely be charged with perjury or falsification of documentation? He could be charges with something, but not likely. He would probably just remain in the trouble he was in originally.

Bolapara basically had the idea, you just need to but everything together.
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OK... Here's the situation.

He is a teacher, and he is late for work. He hauls buttocks toward the school, but he gets pulled over.
"What's the hurry?" the officer asks.
"Somebody jacked a satellite and is using it to do an electromagnetic pulse down this road and destroy everything with a circuit board or a computer chip! Look, I have five phones, and they are all broken!"
"Oh, in that case, you're free to go."
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OK... Here's the situation.

He is a teacher, and he is late for work. He hauls buttocks toward the school, but he gets pulled over.
"What's the hurry?" the officer asks.
"Somebody jacked a satellite and is using it to do an electromagnetic pulse down this road and destroy everything with a circuit board or a computer chip! Look, I have five phones, and they are all broken!"
"Oh, in that case, you're free to go." Nice, but not it.

Since this puzzle is rotting, I'll give a
HINT
He is not late for anything. He is just speeding for speeding's sake.

Also remember Peter's question:

Is Joe's intention to escape punishment for a traffic violation? Yes!

And my earlier statement:
They are pretending an emergency is taking place.

And put it all together!
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OK, the emergency they are pretending is taking place is...

Medical emergency? (someone is suffering a stroke)
Threat to property? (someone's fancy rims are being stolen)
Threat to life? (a child is abducted at gunpoint)
Threat to both life and property? (WalMart is on fire)
Something completely random? (A trolley is out of control, and you can switch the track...)
Possible destruction of evidence? (Someone is flushing their weed down the toilet)
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Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)

OK, the emergency they are pretending is taking place is...

Medical emergency? (someone is suffering a stroke) Exactly.
Threat to property? (someone's fancy rims are being stolen)
Threat to life? (a child is abducted at gunpoint)
Threat to both life and property? (WalMart is on fire)
Something completely random? (A trolley is out of control, and you can switch the track...)
Possible destruction of evidence? (Someone is flushing their weed down the toilet) No to rest.
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Is the medical emergency:
Stroke?
Heart attack?
Cancer?
Physical wounds? (for instance, if they are badly bleeding)
Something else?
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Is the medical emergency:
Stroke? This.
Heart attack? Or this.
Cancer?
Physical wounds? (for instance, if they are badly bleeding)
Something else? Exact emergency irr.
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Is where the medical emergency taking place...

Irrelevant?
Where they are supposedly leaving?
Where they are supposedly going?
In the vehicle?


Is it relevant...

Where they claim to be coming from? Where they claim to be going?
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Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)

Is where the medical emergency taking place...

Irrelevant?
Where they are supposedly leaving?
Where they are supposedly going?
In the vehicle? This!


Is it relevant...

Where they claim to be coming from? No. Where they claim to be going? Yes.
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So if Joe is pulled over for speeding, he (and any passengers) will take the phones from the glove compartment. They would claim that one of them is in the middle of a medical emergency (like a heart attack or stroke, or anything that requires immediate medical attention but does not have any visible wounds associated with it). They will claim to be on their way to the hospital in a rush, but will explain the conspicuous absence of an ambulance by explaining (in a suitably freaked out voice, I'd assume) that none of their phones are working. In this way, Joe believes he will be able to get out of any speeding tickets.

Is this it, or is there anything else that needs to be put together?
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That's it!

**********SPOILER
See above post. Sorry that got dragged out so painfully.
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Sorry, guys... just realized I totally came in and ganked this puzzle after everyone else did the work on it.
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No worries, it needed a good ganking.
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Why would you need an ambulance when you have someone already there to take you the hospital? I would let the ER know that I was coming, of course, but what is the purpose of dispatching an ambulance when you could likely get to the hospital before the ambulance arrives anyway? I would also think this would make sense if he and the passengers did not have cell phones, and I would think that that would be more believable than the fact that each of their phones just happened to be broken and in the glove compartment. Hmmm... Or maybe I just over analyze too much.
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Well, most peoples' first reaction when seeing a friend go down is to call 911. If they said they hadn't called on purpose, and were just driving along to the doctor, the cop would have been more suspicious. This way, they have tangible "proof," something to show him.
As for not having cell phones at all, the likelihood of five young people going out without a single cell phone is miniscule. That excuse would also mean that none of them could have real cell phones on them, in case they were searched.
I can overanalyze too. =)
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Uh-huh. So the police officer would be suspicious that they didn't call 911 when they were rushing "to the hospital", but he or she would not be suspicious that these "five young people" happened to all have broken cell phones that they keep in Joe's glove compartment? As someone with at least a tad bit of law enforcement experience, I doubt that the police officer would worry about whether or not a person had called 911, much less whether any of them have a cell phone that can reach 911. There is a perfectly reasonable chance that a signal may have gotten dropped, or some sort of issues with the battery of the cell phone, or perhaps that they actually had called 911, but that (1) EMS was notified on a channel other than the one the officer was monitoring and (2) following advice from the American Heart Society, the Red Cross, and various other organizations, the friends of the victim decided to take the person to the hospital immediately and be seen by a doctor, instead of waiting around for EMTs or, at best, paramedics to do what little they might be able to do, just to transport him to the hospital just as the friends could have done themselves. Also, when you tell a cop that someone in your vehicle has a life-threatening condition, he most likely isn't going to leave/ignore you or whatever. Police officers are trained as first responders, and the police officer would most likely contact the fire department and then begin to assess the "victim" himself. It seems like that excuse would be a lot more trouble than traffic school or a fine to me.
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Sorry to come back to this one four years later, but...that's just silly, DoctaPeppa.

For one thing, they would obviously take the cell phones out of the glove compartment before the cop got to them.

Second: If a cop pulled someone over for speeding, and they said that there was a medical reason, it's very likely that the cop would ask, "Why didn't you call 911?" Maybe it's not procedure, but that doesn't make it impossible or even unlikely. Maybe things are different in your neck of the woods, but around here, most cops have a tendency to disbelieve the stories of young people, and require a little proof to back up their story.

As for the possibility of the cop interfering, the person faking the condition could just as easily stop faking it. "I was having an asthma attack, and I thought I would need to get to a rescue inhaler, but I'm getting over it on my own. Sorry, officer."

Not unbelievable at all.

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