| Author | Message | ||
| Finno (Finno)
New member Username: Finno Post Number: 1 Registered: 2-2009 |
He removed his shoes and slept. He died. | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 858 Registered: 8-2006 |
Is he human? adult? male? Was he killed? by someone? by an accident? Do we have to find out more about the shoes? where this happened? at which time of the day? in which century? Was he asleep when he died? Apart from him, how many other people are involved: 0? 1? 2? ...? | ||
| Howardwoman (Howardwoman)
New member Username: Howardwoman Post Number: 277 Registered: 1-2008 |
Did he freeze to death? I heard that if you keep your feet warm, you have a better chance of survival. | ||
| Finno (Finno)
New member Username: Finno Post Number: 6 Registered: 2-2009 |
Is he human? adult? male? Yes. Yes. Yes. Was he killed? by someone? by an accident? Yes.Yes.No. Do we have to find out more about the shoes? where this happened? at which time of the day? in which century? Yope. Be more specific. Irrelevant, but it happened at night. Irrelevant. Was he asleep when he died? Yes Apart from him, how many other people are involved: 0? 1? 2? ...? More than one | ||
| Finno (Finno)
New member Username: Finno Post Number: 7 Registered: 2-2009 |
Did he freeze to death? I heard that if you keep your feet warm, you have a better chance of survival. No | ||
| Finno (Finno)
New member Username: Finno Post Number: 9 Registered: 2-2009 |
Sorry for the mistake. in which century? 20th Century | ||
| Arek_fu (Arek_fu)
New member Username: Arek_fu Post Number: 666 Registered: 12-2007 |
This might be a classic, or a variation thereof. Do the murderer and the victim have anything in common? If the answer is yes, I will shut up. | ||
| Finno (Finno)
New member Username: Finno Post Number: 14 Registered: 2-2009 |
This might be a classic, or a variation thereof. Do the murderer and the victim have anything in common? If the answer is yes, I will shut up. Nothing much, except that both are human beings | ||
| Hiphapa (Hiphapa)
New member Username: Hiphapa Post Number: 42 Registered: 2-2009 |
Was he murdered on purpose? Is he the only character who died? Was he at home? At someone else's place? At work? A hospital? In space? Underwater? Somewhere else? Did he go to sleep in a regular bed? | ||
| Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira Post Number: 12 Registered: 2-2009 |
Would he have been killed if he had not removed his shoes? Did the removal of his shoes happen relatively immediately before his sleeping? As in, did he remove his shoes and fall asleep within a few minutes-ish of each other, or did he do something relevant between removal of shoes and sleep? Hmm... and since nobody else has checked, he(1)=he(2)? | ||
| Finno (Finno)
New member Username: Finno Post Number: 15 Registered: 2-2009 |
Was he murdered on purpose? Yes Is he the only character who died? Yes Was he at home? No At someone else's place? It was no one's place in particular At work? No A hospital? No In space? No Underwater? No Somewhere else? Yes Did he go to sleep in a regular bed? If a normal bed is a place where most people would sleep, then yes | ||
| Finno (Finno)
New member Username: Finno Post Number: 16 Registered: 2-2009 |
Would he have been killed if he had not removed his shoes? No Did the removal of his shoes happen relatively immediately before his sleeping? IrrelevantAs in, did he remove his shoes and fall asleep within a few minutes-ish of each other, or did he do something relevant between removal of shoes and sleep? Irrelevant Hmm... and since nobody else has checked, he(1)=he(2)? Yes | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 859 Registered: 8-2006 |
Is the smell of his feet relevant? Is the way he was killed relevant? was he shot? choked? Did this happen in a building? in a hotel? in a room? Did the murderer come into the room? did the murderer see him? wake him up? Assume he had not taken off his shoes: would he still have slept? would the other one still have wanted him dead? Did the shoes he took off belong to him? | ||
| Finno (Finno)
New member Username: Finno Post Number: 22 Registered: 2-2009 |
Is the smell of his feet relevant? Noish Is the way he was killed relevant? Very much was he shot? No choked? No Did this happen in a building? Noin a hotel? Noin a room? Strictly - No Did the murderer come into the room? Yes did the murderer see him? Yes wake him up? No Assume he had not taken off his shoes: would he still have slept? Hmm ... Yes would the other one still have wanted him dead? Yes Did the shoes he took off belong to him? Yes | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 862 Registered: 8-2006 |
Was he killed by one person? Is his death linked to his: respiratory system? blood circuit? brain? Did this happen in a vehicle? cabin? tent? outside? Did the murderer find him because he took off his shoes? Did the murderer see the shoes? use them in any way? Did the murderer leave before the man died? | ||
| Finno (Finno)
New member Username: Finno Post Number: 25 Registered: 2-2009 |
Was he killed by one person? No - Murder Plan involved more than one person Is his death linked to his: respiratory system? may be blood circuit? may be brain? may be Did this happen in a vehicle? yes cabin? Yope tent? No outside? No Did the murderer find him because he took off his shoes? No Did the murderer see the shoes? Yes use them in any way? Used for what? ... No Did the murderer leave before the man died? Yes | ||
| Finno (Finno)
New member Username: Finno Post Number: 32 Registered: 2-2009 |
***** Hints ***** It's a murder and as the old saying goes - there is never a perfect murder, the murdered always leaves some traces behind. A good detective looks for these minute traces. | ||
| Gourami (Gourami)
Moderator Username: Gourami Post Number: 115 Registered: 10-2008 |
Did this happen in a car? Truck? Mobile home? Bus? Boat? Airplane? Was the murderer present when he took off his shoes? Did the shoe removal allow the murder to take place? Is the type of shoe relevant? Were they on his feet before he removed them? Was he stabbed? Beaten? Suffocated? Immolated? Drowned? | ||
| Finno (Finno)
New member Username: Finno Post Number: 35 Registered: 2-2009 |
Did this happen in a car? No Truck? No Mobile home? No Bus? No Boat? No Airplane? No Was the murderer present when he took off his shoes? Irrelevant Did the shoe removal allow the murder to take place? Yes Is the type of shoe relevant? Yesish Were they on his feet before he removed them? Yes Was he stabbed? No Beaten? No Suffocated? No Immolated? No Drowned? No | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 864 Registered: 8-2006 |
Did this happen in a train? on a motorbike? bicycle? When he died did the man have any injuries? internal? external? on particular organs? Was the man burned? Had the man and the murderer seen each other before? Do we need to find out why he was murdered? | ||
| Finno (Finno)
New member Username: Finno Post Number: 38 Registered: 2-2009 |
Did this happen in a train? Yes on a motorbike? No bicycle? No When he died did the man have any injuries? No visible injury or cut on his body internal? Possibleexternal? No on particular organs? No external visible injuries Was the man burned? Noish Had the man and the murderer seen each other before? Yes Do we need to find out why he was murdered? Yes | ||
| Bolapara (Bolapara)
New member Username: Bolapara Post Number: 287 Registered: 12-2008 |
Was he put to death for a crime he committed, and the evidence was found because of something seen on his feet (ie blood, or his foot print matched that at a crime scene)? | ||
| Finno (Finno)
New member Username: Finno Post Number: 39 Registered: 2-2009 |
Was he put to death for a crime he committed, and the evidence was found because of something seen on his feet (ie blood, or his foot print matched that at a crime scene)? No to all | ||
| D_gordon (D_gordon)
New member Username: D_gordon Post Number: 339 Registered: 11-2008 |
Doctapeppa's LTPF cause of death list: was the cause of death... * impact * electric shock * the other kind of shock * something piercing them * suffocation * asphyxiation * burning * freezing * heart attack * allergies * drowning * explosion * radiation * poison * a psionic death ray * other | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 867 Registered: 8-2006 |
So this happened in a sleeper cabin? When the man laid down to sleep were there any relevant people present? Is it relevant how the murderer entered? Is the relationship between the man an the murderer relevant? family members? ex-friends? strangers? Did they meet before in the train? in the cabin? Was there a fire in the scope of the puzzle? Was he murdered because of money? vengeance? jealousy? hatred? for knowing anything? | ||
| Finno (Finno)
New member Username: Finno Post Number: 40 Registered: 2-2009 |
Doctapeppa's LTPF cause of death list: was the cause of death... * impact * electric shock * the other kind of shock * something piercing them * suffocation * asphyxiation * burning * freezing * heart attack * allergies * drowning * explosion * radiation * poison * a psionic death ray * other Electric shock was the cause of death, 'no' to the rest causes | ||
| Finno (Finno)
New member Username: Finno Post Number: 41 Registered: 2-2009 |
So this happened in a sleeper cabin? Yes When the man laid down to sleep were there any relevant people present? No Is it relevant how the murderer entered? Yesish Is the relationship between the man an the murderer relevant? Yes and no family members? No ex-friends? No strangers? No Did they meet before in the train? Yes in the cabin? Yes Was there a fire in the scope of the puzzle? no Was he murdered because of money? Yes vengeance? No jealousy? No hatred? No for knowing anything? No | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 878 Registered: 8-2006 |
Did he lock his cabin? Is the occupation of the man or the murderer relevant? Did the murderer work as a porter or similar? Did the murderer steal something from the man? money? valuables? something particular? Did the murderer use an electric shock gun to kill the man? a device which is normally used to slaughter animals? | ||
| Finno (Finno)
New member Username: Finno Post Number: 44 Registered: 2-2009 |
Did he lock his cabin? No Is the occupation of the man or the murderer relevant? Yes to both Did the murderer work as a porter or similar? Similar Did the murderer steal something from the man? Yes money? Yes valuables? May be something particular? Mostly money or equivalent Did the murderer use an electric shock gun to kill the man? No a device which is normally used to slaughter animals? No | ||
| Kalira (Kalira)
New member Username: Kalira Post Number: 30 Registered: 2-2009 |
Were his feet the entry point for the electric current? And his shoes would have insulated him against it? Or at least prevented his killer from using his feet as the entry point? Was the killer an employee of the railroad? Someone hired to kill the hero (can we call him Ratchett?)? Someone with a vendetta against Ratchett? Someone he knew before he got on the train? And since I can't find that anyone else asked this, the murderer = H? A? M? | ||
| Finno (Finno)
New member Username: Finno Post Number: 45 Registered: 2-2009 |
Were his feet the entry point for the electric current? And his shoes would have insulated him against it? Or at least prevented his killer from using his feet as the entry point? Yes to all. And perfect line of thinking Was the killer an employee of the railroad? YesSomeone hired to kill the hero (can we call him Ratchett?)?No. Someone with a vendetta against Ratchett? No Someone he knew before he got on the train? Yes And since I can't find that anyone else asked this, the murderer = H? A? M? Yes to all | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 879 Registered: 8-2006 |
Did the man take this train for the first time? did he take it regularly? Is his occupation linked to the train? did he use it to go to work? Did the electricity of the shock come from a battery? from the electric network of the train? did the murderer use any device he plugged in? or did he manipulate the network in any way? | ||
| Finno (Finno)
New member Username: Finno Post Number: 49 Registered: 2-2009 |
Did the man take this train for the first time? No did he take it regularly? Yes Is his occupation linked to the train? No did he use it to go to work? Yes Did the electricity of the shock come from a battery? No from the electric network of the train? Yes did the murderer use any device he plugged in? No or did he manipulate the network in any way? Yes | ||
| Tobasi (Tobasi)
New member Username: Tobasi Post Number: 882 Registered: 8-2006 |
So the railroad employee prepared the cabin in a way to murder the man? At a place where he expected him to put his feet? Did the railroad employee open a socket? Cut a cable? touch the mattress? the blanket? When he man was sleeping the murderer entered the cabin to trigger the current? | ||
| Finno (Finno)
New member Username: Finno Post Number: 50 Registered: 2-2009 |
So the railroad employee prepared the cabin in a way to murder the man? Yes At a place where he expected him to put his feet? Yes Did the railroad employee open a socket? No Cut a cable? No touch the mattress? No the blanket? No When he man was sleeping the murderer entered the cabin to trigger the current? Yes | ||
| Finno (Finno)
New member Username: Finno Post Number: 51 Registered: 2-2009 |
*********** SPOILER ************* This puzzle is based on a novel. The man who was killed was a rich trader who had shops in different cities. Every month end he used to travel from Mumbai (M) to Delhi (D) [both are big cities in India] to collect his money in cash. And come back from D to M by a train in the first class cabin. The waiters on the train knew about it and they planned to steal the money. They knew his habits for more than 6 month including preferred food, time of sleeping etc. The electric current was passed through the emergency chain - which is used to stop the train by pulling it - that is hanging near the berth. The staff manipulated the electric network so that only that particular chain carried high strength electric current from the train's grid. The shoes could have prevented the man's death as they had thick rubber & plastic base. |
