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Posted on Monday, March 16, 2009 - 2:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sam refused to be sexist and so instead ended up appearing to be racist
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Sam = H? A? M?
How many other relevant people are involved? 1? 2? 3? ...?

Did Sam say something that made him/her appear racist? Not say something? Do something? Not do something?

Did Sam refuse to say? not say? do? not do? something that he/she considered sexist? Would said thing be considered inherently sexist? Or just in that situation? Or just to Sam and not to anyone else?
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Sam = H? A? M? H, A, gender irrelevant

How many other relevant people are involved? 1? 2? 3? ...? what Sam said is really the only relevant thing

Did Sam say something that made him/her appear racist? this one Not say something? Do something? Not do something?

Did Sam refuse to say? not say? do? not do? something that he/she considered sexist? see above


Would said thing be considered inherently sexist? possibly, define inherently sexist Or just in that situation? it is not the situation but....Or just to Sam and not to anyone else? Sam hadn't realized it could be construed as racist
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Was Sam halfway thru a statement when he realized it would be sexist? Did he then change the rest of his statement to avoid it but ended up sounding racist instead?
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Was Sam halfway thru a statement when he realized it would be sexist? No

Did he then change the rest of his statement to avoid it but ended up sounding racist instead?no
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Is the race he's slandering relevant?
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Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 5:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the race he's slandering relevant? Yope, we will use Caucasion/white for the sake of this puzzle
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Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 2:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he going to say something like "I just hate girls like that," referring to some characteristic, and caught himself on appearing to be sexist, so he said "I just hate people like that," in a way that seemed to be referring to the object of his statement's race?
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Was he going to say something like "I just hate girls like that," referring to some characteristic, and caught himself on appearing to be sexist, so he said "I just hate people like that," in a way that seemed to be referring to the object of his statement's race? no
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Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 4:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Just to clarify: the thing he said was racist against whites? Or was it not specific to any race? Is Sam white?

Was he telling a joke?
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Just to clarify: the thing he said was racist against whites? yes Or was it not specific to any race? because this could work with some races and not others, we are using whites Is Sam white? Sam could be any race

Was he telling a joke? no
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Did he accidentally make a pun?
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Did he accidentally make a pun? no
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Posted on Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 5:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By saying its not a situation, I mean there is no need for another party to be present for this terminology to make Sam appear to be racist - I hope that is not confusing. It doesn't matter whether he is in the presence of a white a person, alone in his bedroom, in a group of anti-white people, etc

Recap: Sam felt that a certain term was sexist, and so he decided against using it. But the term Sam choose instead, could just as easily be considered a racist term. The question is why.
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Posted on Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 8:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

To boost interest, Hint: The sexist term Sam refused to use is one we are all probably familiar with
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Hint: The puzzle title does not mean that this puzzle is unsolvable. You can win at this puzzle. You need to ask questions if you want to though.

Hint 2: Sam was referencing an an object
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Is gender-neutral language relevant? (e.g., using the term "law enforcement officer" as opposed to "policeman" or "letter carrier" instead of "mailman") Could the sexist term be interpreted as implying the superiority of the female sex? or the male sex? Or implying the inferiority of the male sex? Or the female sex? Could the racist term be interpreted as implying the inferiority of the Caucasian race to another specific race? Or as inferior to all other races?
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Is gender-neutral language relevant? no

ould the sexist term be interpreted as implying the superiority of the female sex? or the male sex? Or implying the inferiority of the male sex? Or the female sex? I don't believe that inferiority/superiority of the sexes are the correct way to describe this. The term is derogtaroy to a certain group of women.


Could the racist term be interpreted as implying the inferiority of the Caucasian race to another specific race? Or as inferior to all other races? Same concept as above, the term is derogatory to caucasions (or could be, it is more obvious in the first scenario than when it becomes racist)

Hint: Focus on finding out what the object was
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Was the object a balloon? A person? A food? A type of flooring? A structure? A conveyance? An aircraft? A vehicle? A lamp? A bathtub? A literary work? An electric device? A billiard table? A door? A window? A ceiling? An appliance? A compact disc? A firearm? A clock? A pen? Something that emits electromagnetic radiation? A non-human organism? A planet? A paper? A machine of some kind? Linens? An iron? A piece of furniture? Those little plastic things on the ends of shoelaces? Ice? An implement of husbandry? Groceries? Auto parts? Clothing? A body of water? A synthetic material? An object found in nature? A work of art? Something intangible?
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Was the object a balloon? A person? A food? A type of flooring? A structure? A conveyance? An aircraft? A vehicle? A lamp? A bathtub? A literary work? An electric device? A billiard table? A door? A window? A ceiling? An appliance? A compact disc? A firearm? A clock? A pen?
Something that emits electromagnetic radiation? none of these


A non-human organism? yes

A planet? A paper? A machine of some kind? Linens? An iron? A piece of furniture? none of these

Those little plastic things on the ends of shoelaces? no it is not an aglet

Ice? An implement of husbandry? Groceries? Auto parts? none of these

Clothing? YES, but what kind

A body of water? no
A synthetic material? most probably have some degree of synthetic material in them, but I'm sure you can find all natural ones

An object found in nature? A work of art? Something intangible? none of these
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Clothing...

Trousers? Shirts? Blouses? Skirts? Dresses? Overalls? Pajamas? Hoodies? Undergarments? Cycling shorts? Jackets? Other outerwear? Costumes? Uniforms? Vests? Footwear? Headgear? Gloves? Crop tops? Sweaters? Suits? Scrubs? Bow ties? Sunglasses? Other accessories? Bathrobes? Snuggies? Something else?
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Trousers? no
Shirts? yesish

Blouses? Skirts? Dresses? Overalls? Pajamas? Hoodies? no to these

Undergarments? yes

Cycling shorts? Jackets? Other outerwear? Costumes? Uniforms? Vests? Footwear? Headgear? Gloves? Crop tops? Sweaters? Suits? Scrubs? Bow ties? Sunglasses? Other accessories? Bathrobes? Snuggies? Something else? no to all of these
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Shirt...

Dress shirt? Halterneck? Henley shirt? Jersey? Polo shirt? Sleeveless shirt? T-shirt? Turtleneck?

Undergarments...

Long underwear? Sleeveless shirt? T-shirt? Bikini underwear? G-string? Tanga? Thong? Brassiere? Booty shorts? Panties? Boxer briefs? Boxer shorts? Briefs? Jockstrap?
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the shirt is the undergarment


Long underwear? Sleeveless shirt? this one T-shirt? Bikini underwear? G-string? Tanga? Thong? Brassiere? Booty shorts? Panties? Boxer briefs? Boxer shorts? Briefs? Jockstrap?
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Posted on Wednesday, April 08, 2009 - 1:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So was the sexist thing he didn't say calling it a "wife beater"? Or is this the 'racist' thing he did say?

Did the thing that he said that made him appear racist have to do with the same type of shirt? Did he simply call it by another name? that could have been taken in a racist way?
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So was the sexist thing he didn't say calling it a "wife beater"? yesOr is this the 'racist' thing he did say? wifebeater is not the racist term

Did the thing that he said that made him appear racist have to do with the same type of shirt? yesDid he simply call it by another name? yesthat could have been taken in a racist way? yes

The next post should solve this, so what term did he substitute to make him seem to be racist against whites, instead of sexist?
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Hmmm...
Sleeveless shirt? Undershirt? Tank top? Singlet? Athletic shirt? A-shirt? Guinea tee? Muscle shirt? Vest? Semmit? Sando?
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Hmmm, I think doctapeppa missed a post....or some silly person has taken over his computer.
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I don't know any other terms for a wife beater!
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think laterally ;). How can you change the term wife beater from a sexist term into a racist term
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Spouse batterer? Domestic abuser? Person who is violent towards his or her female spouse? Man who abuses his wife? Intimate-partner-violence-inflicter? Domestic violence primary aggressor? Spousal attacker?
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Spouse batterer? Domestic abuser? Person who is violent towards his or her female spouse? Man who abuses his wife? Intimate-partner-violence-inflicter? Domestic violence primary aggressor? Spousal attacker? none of the above....


Is there a race of spouses...besides that one where you are supposed to carry your wife piggy backstyle?
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Was the word he used a conventional term for a sleeveless shirt? Or was it simply a rough replacement for the words "wife" and "beater" that ended up sounding racist?

Would the shirt have to be white for this to work?
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Did he call it a "slave beater"?
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Was the word he used a conventional term for a sleeveless shirt? what do you mean by "conventional?" I will tell you that I came up with the idea for this puzzle after seeing this term on someone's packing list, and a google search reveals many results for the term. I would still consider it slang though

Would the shirt have to be white for this to work? In the case of the criteria previously defined during this puzzle, yes, But if going solely by the original puzzle statement, no

Did he call it a "slave beater"? no
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The race where you have the spoon and the piece of wood.
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Did he simply call it a "beater"? Something with the word "beater" in it? Did he call it a "white beater" intending to mean a [wife] beater that was white but it could also refer to a violent white dude or a white dude that is beaten?
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****Spoiler****

Yes he called it a white beater. The slang term "wife beater" originated in the early 90s with the show cops - when they went on domestic dispute calls the man involved would almost always come out wearing a white undershirt, so the shirt took on the name "wife beater." Recently I saw someone's packing list and they had written that they need to pack "white beaters." Changing the term from its sexist connotation (beating your wife) to a racist one (beating whites). Google reveals that its becoming more common to now call these white beaters and black beaters (when black). But I doubt you'll see them called Asian or Hispanic beaters, so this puzzle wouldn't work with all races.

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