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Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 12 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Monday, December 29, 2008 - 8:55 pm: |      |
He had to admit she was right - it could be done with machines....But who would want that to happen? |
Eliott85 (Eliott85)
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Post Number: 7 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 5:34 am: |      |
Basics: He:H/A/M? she:H/A/F? Is this thing that could be done done often? When it is done is it most often done by a human? An animal? Is this thing physical? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 14 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 11:27 pm: |      |
Basics: they're human adults, gender is irrelevent. Is this thing that could be done done often? technically yes, realistically no. It would be expensive and certain criteria must be met When it is done is it most often done by a human? An animal? It isn't done. But if it were, it would be done by humans. Is this thing physical? please explain |
Eliott85 (Eliott85)
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Post Number: 9 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 7:21 pm: |      |
Is it the creation of something? Is part the final result of this being done a material object? It is something that people would not want be done at all? Or not be done by machines? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 15 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 5:50 pm: |      |
it the creation of something? no Is part the final result of this being done a material object? no It is something that people would not want be done at all? Yope, more people would likely be opposed than not |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Post Number: 306 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 10:56 pm: |      |
So "it" is rather negative. The reason why people would not want "it" to be done is because "it" is dangerous? Useless? Disgusting? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 16 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, January 04, 2009 - 7:19 pm: |      |
So "it" is rather negative.yope The reason why people would not want "it" to be done is because Disgusting? this is closest |
Rcs (Rcs)
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Post Number: 306 Registered: 9-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 2:37 am: |      |
Is this something some people would consider immoral? Abortion relevant? And a longshot: Anything to do with changing lead into gold in a nuclear reactor? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 17 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 10:53 am: |      |
Is this something some people would consider immoral? yesAbortion relevant? no And a longshot: Anything to do with changing lead into gold in a nuclear reactor?no |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 210 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 4:08 pm: |      |
Is cloning relevant? Food production? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 18 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 06, 2009 - 4:16 pm: |      |
Is cloning relevant? Food production? no to both |
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Post Number: 320 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 3:59 pm: |      |
Sex relevant? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 19 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 07, 2009 - 6:11 pm: |      |
Sex relevant? no |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 29 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, January 10, 2009 - 9:46 pm: |      |
Recap: This is a conversation done by 2 adults. The man realized that the woman was theoretically right in what she was saying could happen, even though this is something that hasn't happened. There would most likely be protests to get laws enacted against it if it ever did occur. It depends on an individuals point of view as to whether its a positive act or a negative one, but the majority of people would probably be repulsed by the idea. It has nothing to do with abortion, cloning, or food production. Hint: It involves humans but it will help you to think to smaller species |
Eliott85 (Eliott85)
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Post Number: 16 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 12:22 am: |      |
Does it have to do with death in anyway? Any sort of scientific testing? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 34 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 2:29 am: |      |
Does it have to do with death in anyway? yes Any sort of scientific testing? no but you are getting near the right path |
Rcs (Rcs)
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Post Number: 311 Registered: 9-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 9:34 pm: |      |
Human death? Assisted suicide? Euthanasia? Is this something a politician might bring up in a speech? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 38 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, January 11, 2009 - 11:21 pm: |      |
Human death? yope Assisted suicide? no Euthanasia? no Is this something a politician might bring up in a speech? if there was a possibility of it being done, yes. |
Eliott85 (Eliott85)
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Post Number: 17 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 11:33 am: |      |
Yope to human death. Is it because it is human & other deaths? If so, are the other types of creatures pet animals? A specific type of animal? Would the deaths be done in a single specific place? A group of specific places? Or in random spots? Limited to one country? State? County? City? |
Eliott85 (Eliott85)
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Post Number: 18 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Monday, January 12, 2009 - 11:35 am: |      |
One more thought: anything to do with population control? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 40 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 13, 2009 - 12:40 am: |      |
Is it because it is human & other deaths? No Would the deaths be done in a single specific place? this would not be confined to any one specific area though its significantly more likely to happen in certain areas/countries than in others. Be careful of FA though. THink of why else I may have answered yope to the question about human death. Though this only applies to humans thinking smaller can help you out significantly anything to do with population control?no |
Kaygee (Kaygee)
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Post Number: 170 Registered: 9-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 2:18 am: |      |
Would thinking about a smaller species help us because it is currently being used with this other group? Would it help if we determined "which" species you were referring to? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 54 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 2:47 am: |      |
Would thinking about a smaller species help us because it is currently being used with this other group? noish, to a certain extent yes but nowhere near as complex as this and most people would have never heard of it happening - at least I didn't know it was done until i came across a chance article Would it help if we determined "which" species you were referring to? yes, identifying the species or Order can help you greatly |
Usmcfink (Usmcfink)
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Post Number: 385 Registered: 10-2008
| | Posted on Monday, January 19, 2009 - 5:21 pm: |      |
Seriously? The order? I remember my freshman bio class to this day...Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, Family, Genus, Species. Nobody knows the order of anything! lol Anything to deal with human "evolution"? homo spaiens? homo sapiens sapiens? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 71 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Monday, January 19, 2009 - 8:50 pm: |      |
Anything to deal with human "evolution"? homo spaiens? homo sapiens sapiens? No Seriously? The order? I remember my freshman bio class to this day...Kingdom, Phylum, Class, Order, Family, Genus, Species. Nobody knows the order of anything! lol Neither do I, but this will help with the long list of people naming everything known to man and man's imagination |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 236 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Friday, January 23, 2009 - 2:18 am: |      |
Well...let's go up to the phylum-ish area, and work our way down. Are the relevant animals vertebrates? If so, birds? Mammals? Reptiles? Amphibians? Fish? If not, do they live in the sea? If not, are they insects? Spiders? Now I'll be expecting my Poster of the Second award. |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 86 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Friday, January 23, 2009 - 4:02 am: |      |
If not, are they insects? yes Now I'll be expecting my Poster of the Second award. Granted, and you can pick up your free kings crown at any fast food chain restaurant called "Burger King" |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 237 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Friday, January 23, 2009 - 5:17 am: |      |
Is the social structure of these insects relevant? Would they be harmed by this thing (call it "Project X") were it to happen? Would Project X benefit them? Would some humans benefit from Project X? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 88 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Friday, January 23, 2009 - 6:22 am: |      |
Is the social structure of these insects relevant? no Would they be harmed by this thing (call it "Project X") were it to happen? Would Project X benefit them? Yope, depends on why it is being done as to whether or not they are harmed and/or benefitted by it Would some humans benefit from Project X? Yes, but be careful of FA |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 239 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 6:04 am: |      |
You say that "disgusting" is closest to the objection many people would have to Project X. Is this disgust similar to the disgust many people would feel at the idea of eating roadkill? Or is it like the disgust people get from contemplating something they morally object to? In fact, is food relevant at all? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 95 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2009 - 6:33 am: |      |
Is this disgust similar to the disgust many people would feel at the idea of eating roadkill? well are we talking about raw road kill or freshly killed and cooked deer? Yes a disgust similar to the first type would be felt by some Or is it like the disgust people get from contemplating something they morally object to? yes In fact, is food relevant at all? yes |
Kaygee (Kaygee)
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Post Number: 181 Registered: 9-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 2:42 am: |      |
Back to the "yope" about human death...is it something that prevents death? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 96 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 3:23 am: |      |
Back to the "yope" about human death...is it something that prevents death? yesish |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 242 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 - 5:22 pm: |      |
Are any of these aspects of food relevant: food processing? Food transportation? Food consumption? Is the fact that it (yesishly) prevents death related to the visceral disgust? To the moral disgust? Is it "yesish" because it extends life instead of actually creating immortality? Are organ transplants relevant? Blood transfusions? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 98 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 5:37 am: |      |
Are any of these aspects of food relevant: food processing? yes, but be careful here Food transportation? no Food consumption? yes Is the fact that it (yesishly) prevents death related to the visceral disgust? yes To the moral disgust? definately Is it "yesish" because it extends life instead of actually creating immortality? yes Are organ transplants relevant? Noish Blood transfusions? No, though that isn't to say they couldn't be relevant |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 99 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2009 - 5:45 am: |      |
Don't assume anything in regards to my previous answers. If i didn't directly say something is the case, than it would be wise to not use my answers to assume that something is the case |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 248 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 1:06 pm: |      |
According to previous answers, the fact that it prevents death (for a while) is definitely related to the moral disgust. Is this because it would allow some people to live longer at the expense of other people's lives? Because it would extend life beyond what some people consider the proper human lifespan? Is cannibalism relevant? Caloric restriction? Creating "meat" by growing muscle cells from some animal on an artificial medium? Human cells? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 122 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Friday, February 06, 2009 - 3:36 pm: |      |
Because it would extend life beyond what some people consider the proper human lifespan? yes Is cannibalism relevant? Caloric restriction? Creating "meat" by growing muscle cells from some animal on an artificial medium? no to all Human cells? they are relevant to finding the answer, but you won't get the answer if you just focus on that |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 260 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Friday, February 06, 2009 - 6:53 pm: |      |
Are telomeres relevant? Telomerase? Some other enzyme? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 126 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Friday, February 06, 2009 - 7:42 pm: |      |
Are telomeres relevant? Telomerase? I'm going to say no for the sake of sanity. if we want to get really technical and specific they probably would, but I'm not familiar with either of them and knowledge of such isn't necessary for solving the puzzle. Some other enzyme? yes |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 266 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2009 - 1:11 am: |      |
Is the relevant enzyme found in the human body? If so: the digestive system? Cardiovascular system? Pulmonary system? Nervous system? The brain? Immune system? Does the human body's production of these enzymes decline with age? Does Project X involve replacing these enzymes in later age? Are the relevant aspects of food consumption in the way the food is prepared? How the food enters the human body? How the food is digested? Would the human lifespan be extended for those benefiting from Project X by: less than one year? 1-5 years? 5-10 years? 10-20 years? 20-50 years? More? Relevant? |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 1879 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, February 07, 2009 - 1:50 am: |      |
Is DNA relevant? Could somehow these people have various parts of their body replaced by a sort of replicating cell, and soon, it seems, people are actually in a nursing home being spoon-fed by androids that look like dogs and hide underground? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 136 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2009 - 3:13 am: |      |
Disclaimer, I'm not familiar with enzymes so I'm answering these to the best of my ability and knowledge. I'll try not to make mistakes Is the relevant enzyme found in the human body? yes, be careful of FA If so: the digestive system? yes Cardiovascular system? yes Pulmonary system? yes Nervous system? yes The brain? noImmune system? yes Does the human body's production of these enzymes decline with age? yope Does Project X involve replacing these enzymes in later age? no Are the relevant aspects of food consumption in the way the food is prepared? yope How the food enters the human body? yes How the food is digested? yes Would the human lifespan be extended for those benefiting from Project X by: less than one year? yes 5-10 years? possibly, but the longer the time period the more unlikely it is Is DNA relevant? no Could somehow these people have various parts of their body replaced by a sort of replicating cell, and soon, it seems, people are actually in a nursing home being spoon-fed by androids that look like dogs and hide underground? Possibly, but we probably won't have the machine capability to do that until after our grandchildren are dead of old age |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 137 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2009 - 3:15 am: |      |
sorry typo, How the food is digested is not relevant |
Biograd (Biograd)
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Post Number: 343 Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2009 - 6:10 am: |      |
So let me ask a clarification--the reason for moral objection would be that human life is extended artificially? So in other words, if it were possible to make a legally dead body come back to life for a few days, it would be disgusting for the same reason? Also, I'd like to clarify the connection between the insects and the humans: Is the research being done on insects to prove that it could work, with the idea of doing the same with humans at a later time? Are the insects Drosophila (fruit flies)? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 138 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, February 08, 2009 - 1:18 pm: |      |
So let me ask a clarification--the reason for moral objection would be that human life is extended artificially? no So in other words, if it were possible to make a legally dead body come back to life for a few days, it would be disgusting for the same reason? No, techincally dead bodies come back to life all the time, and there is a blurry line between clinically and legally dead, yet there is no large scale group advocating against the use of CPR or shock paddles Is the research being done on insects to prove that it could work, with the idea of doing the same with humans at a later time? no Are the insects Drosophila (fruit flies)? no |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 2003 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 12:26 am: |      |
Ah, I am of course reminded of a famous chess match...
quote:On February 10, 1996, Deep Blue became the first machine to win a chess game against a reigning world champion (Garry Kasparov) under regular time controls. Deep Blue - Kasparov, 1996, Game 1 is a famous chess game. However, Kasparov won three games and drew two of the following games, beating Deep Blue by a score of 4–2. The match concluded on February 17, 1996.
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D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 310 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 6:28 pm: |      |
You said the way food enters the human body is relevant to Project X. Would it enter through an IV? Through a feeding tube in the stomach? Injected directly into the brain and other vital organs? Some other way that does not involve eating? Are the insects relevant to the method of feeding? Would Project X prolong life by keeping the brain alive while other organs fail? By providing an artificial substitute for some failing organs? Is something like dialysis relevant? Or, perhaps, cryogenics? Is the relevant enzyme involved in providing energy to the body? Is it found in bacteria that live symbiotically with the human body, but not in human cells themselves? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 227 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 11:40 pm: |      |
Would it enter through an IV? it could Through a feeding tube in the stomach?it could Injected directly into the brain and other vital organs? it could not Some other way that does not involve eating? to a certain extent its only relevant that food nourishment is given and that its not by eating, but don't ignore my other answers about this.A feeding tube is what I had in mind, but an iv would also work. a feeing tube would probably be better overall Are the insects relevant to the method of feeding? no Would Project X prolong life by keeping the brain alive while other organs fail?no By providing an artificial substitute for some failing organs?not quite Is something like dialysis relevant? Not really, there is a good chance it would be used, and probably definately would after a long while, but you can solve the puzzle without ever thinking about dialysis Or, perhaps, cryogenics? No, but were you asking about cryonics? and cryopreserving. That is also not relevant, and I'll say would likely be met with less moral disgust than this would be. Is the relevant enzyme involved in providing energy to the body? Is it found in bacteria that live symbiotically with the human body, but not in human cells themselves? You are working off an FA. There is more than one enzyme involved. Ones that produce energy would be necessary but be careful of additional FA. |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 315 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 11:46 pm: |      |
Stem cells relevant? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 230 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 11:54 pm: |      |
Stem cells relevant? no |
Ezhonok (Ezhonok)
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Post Number: 69 Registered: 4-2008
| | Posted on Friday, February 20, 2009 - 11:18 pm: |      |
Anything to do with eating excrement? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 259 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 4:56 am: |      |
Anything to do with eating excrement? no |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 2071 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 4:59 am: |      |
So it isn't playing chess? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 264 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 8:00 pm: |      |
So it isn't playing chess? No it isn't playing chess, which contrary to popular belief amongst hard core chess players, does not require feeding tubes or ivs |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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Post Number: 2085 Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Monday, February 23, 2009 - 7:39 pm: |      |
Does this thing that could be done with machines happen often? With machines? With non-minerals? In science fiction? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 274 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 12:54 am: |      |
Does this thing that could be done with machines happen often? no, and though I said it earlier it could technically be done often it probably would be difficult to always do it with accuracy often With machines? With non-minerals? i'm a bit confused here and wonder if your asking this because you didn't read through the whole puzzle so please explain greater and I'll see if I understand In science fiction? interestingly enough I don't recall ever hearing it be done in science fiction. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen though as the only science fiction I was ever big into was Bruce Coville and Orson Scott card |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 326 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 12:55 am: |      |
If Project X were done, could it be done outside a hospital? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 275 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 12:59 am: |      |
If Project X were done, could it be done outside a hospital? This is poor phrasing. For example, cancer radiation treatments and amputations can be done so outside of a hospital. Do you mean would it be more likely to be done outside of hospital? if so, as opposed to where? a grocery store? a home? a military lab? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 276 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 1:03 am: |      |
If Project X were done, could it be done outside a hospital? This is poor phrasing. For example, cancer radiation treatments and amputations can be done so outside of a hospital. Do you mean would it be more likely to be done outside of hospital? if so, as opposed to where? a grocery store? a home? a military lab? |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 327 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 1:08 am: |      |
Fair enough. Would it be more likely to happen in a hospital than in a home? Would the subject of Project X be bedridden during its duration? Are any machines to substitute for human organs (along the lines of an iron lung or modern equivalents) used in Project X? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 282 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 1:42 am: |      |
Would it be more likely to happen in a hospital than in a home? yes Would the subject of Project X be bedridden during its duration? yes Are any machines to substitute for human organs (along the lines of an iron lung or modern equivalents) used in Project X? yes |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 331 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 1:51 am: |      |
Which of these organs are being substituted for: heart? lungs? kidneys? brain? skin? Are there others being substituted for by machines? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 284 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 2:18 am: |      |
Which of these organs are being substituted for: heart? noish lungs? noish kidneys? noish - they'd still be present but there'd be benefits to substituting their functioning brain? yes skin? yesish Are there others being substituted for by machines? yes |
Doctapeppa (Doctapeppa)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 12:31 am: |      |
your asking this because you didn't read through the whole puzzle <<<--- this one So if you don't do it with machines, with whom do you do it? Your Uncle Ted? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 297 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 12:45 am: |      |
So if you don't do it with machines, with whom do you do it? Your Uncle Ted? Uncle Ted probably couldn't help you, at least not alone. but then i don't know uncle Ted. His education, profession, resources, government clearances, religiousity, morality etc. For all I know you are a computer created by Paul just to ask silly random questions to keep the humans here occupied and your Uncle Ted is responsible for creating earth |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 346 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 2:49 am: |      |
Is the reason for Project X to keep humans alive longer to harvest organs? To keep humans alive longer simply because they don't want to die? Would a person be conscious during Project X? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 304 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 3:42 am: |      |
Is the reason for Project X to keep humans alive longer to harvest organs? it could be used that way but for the expense and detail involved this likely would not be your first option To keep humans alive longer simply because they don't want to die? No Would a person be conscious during Project X?no |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 354 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Friday, February 27, 2009 - 11:46 pm: |      |
Would a person typically consent to Project X in advance? Would it be used after some event left them unconscious? In this case, would consent be given by someone with power of attorney for them? Or would people be subjected to Project X without their consent? Without their knowledge? Would a person subjected to Project X be expected to regain consciousness later on? Would a subject of Project X think it was beneficial to them? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 326 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 1:36 am: |      |
Would a person typically consent to Project X in advance? Do you mean like a DNR where you have to consent in advance? it would be alot like that - people would be opposed to it, but they would be even more opposed if the person hadn't willingly given their consent beforehand Would it be used after some event left them unconscious? yes In this case, would consent be given by someone with power of attorney for them? yes that could happenOr would people be subjected to Project X without their consent? probably Without their knowledge? one would hope not but like the previous question it really depends on who is in charge of Project X Would a person subjected to Project X be expected to regain consciousness later on? No Would a subject of Project X think it was beneficial to them? Not by reasonably acceptable popular standards in the United States |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 355 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 7:39 am: |      |
Is Project X intended to keep people alive longer simply to increase the statistics on life expectancy in a country? Or to experiment on them in developing new organ replacement technologies? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 328 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 7:56 am: |      |
Is Project X intended to keep people alive longer simply to increase the statistics on life expectancy in a country? define life expectancy Or to experiment on them in developing new organ replacement technologies? possibly. its better to focus on the what than the why, because the why can be extremely different depending on who is doing it |
D_gordon (D_gordon)
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Post Number: 358 Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 5:07 am: |      |
Would Project X most likely be used on infants? Children? Adults? In case of a spinal injury? Stroke? Heart attack? Other condition that causes loss of some brain function? After a car crash? Or other event that can cause serious damage to both the body and the brain? When you say that the brain would be substituted for -- would some device actually be sending the signals to the rest of the body that the brain normally sends? Or would some machines perform or cause the body to perform the necessary actions to keep it alive, without the brain's function? On the substitution for the skin -- would skin grafts be given? Of human skin cells? Or of another material? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 335 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 5:40 am: |      |
Would Project X most likely be used on infants? Children? Adults? I believe adults. I think it would be more likely to fail on infants, and one would hope that it wouldn't be done on children or infants In case of a spinal injury? Stroke? Heart attack? Other condition that causes loss of some brain function? this one most likelyAfter a car crash? there might not be time Or other event that can cause serious damage to both the body and the brain? Yes When you say that the brain would be substituted for -- would some device actually be sending the signals to the rest of the body that the brain normally sends? YesOr would some machines perform or cause the body to perform the necessary actions to keep it alive, without the brain's function? Yes, if there is confusion between my answer to this and the previous one please ask more specifically and I will try to clear up any misconception On the substitution for the skin -- would skin grafts be given? Of human skin cells? Or of another material? this one |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 733 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 - 11:10 pm: |      |
Does this involve animal-to-human transplants? Something developed by studying animals? But not directly using the animals themselves? |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 364 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 - 12:31 pm: |      |
Does this involve animal-to-human transplants? no Something developed by studying animals? if it were developed it would be developed by studying animals of the type mentioned above But not directly using the animals themselves? not using using animals, the big concept is that machines are necessary |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Post Number: 751 Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 13, 2009 - 9:59 am: |      |
Does this have anything to do with microchipping? People chip their pets and property, but seem to have problems with the idea of chipping themselves, even though it would be an easy and inexpensive way of having all your medical information right there where the paramedics and cops could swipe it when they needed to. |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 372 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2009 - 4:19 am: |      |
Does this have anything to do with microchipping? no |
Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
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Post Number: 25 Registered: 3-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 4:20 pm: |      |
Would removal of the brain, entire head, or other parts of the nervous system of an insect, while keeping it alive be involved in the preliminary research? This puzzle reminds me of the Roald Dahl short story "William and Mary"... brrr |
Bolapara (Bolapara)
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Post Number: 395 Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 3:58 am: |      |
****Spoiler***** Yes, Humans can not survive without their heads, unlike insects for a few different reasons 1) they breath through their mouth or nose, so when decapitated some sort of oxygen tubing would need to be inserted to enable them to keep breathing. A machine would also need to keep control of the process of breathing in and out because the brain would no longer be present to do so 2) They eat through their mouth - this can easily be gotten around by having a feeding tube through the stomach. Indeed many people have conditions that require them to get their nutrients through such means (well maybe not many, but enough that it isn't rare) 3) Bleeding to death - The decapitation would have to be very well controlled to prevent such a thing. Humans don't clot very fast or well. There are ways to prevent this. Today we are familiar with skin grafts and people who say lose a finger, usually have skin covering the ending. That wasn't always the case though. My great-aunt lost her thumb due to an accident with a fan and no skin was pulled over it. It was sealed up with something clear. It appeared that you could see into her finger. Perhaps a tight clamp immediate upon decapitation, could help with this issue 4) Blood loss. If not done swiftly enough, some blood transfusions would need to be done immediately. Others may need to be done to ensure an adaquate supply of healthy, oxygenated blood. In the end though you likely wouldn't live very long in this state, but the question is "Are you still alive, if your body is alive, but your head isn't?" and "Would you want that to happen?" Before you say no, what if there was some reason you knew you were going to die - lets say brain tumor, but had an organ that was a match for your child who would one day need a transplant but was as yet to small to take yours. Would you still so readily say no to such a gruesome thing? So what do you think - was she right? Scientists decapitate cockroaches all the time, seal up their head/necks to prevent dehydration. Though both body parts function, they've found they are only capable of learning while intact.
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Noobdogg (Noobdogg)
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Post Number: 30 Registered: 3-2009
| | Posted on Friday, March 20, 2009 - 4:02 am: |      |
Gruesome indeed! Hope this never happens! Thanks for the great puzzle! |