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Smartyllama (Smartyllama)
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Posted on Monday, February 16, 2009 - 1:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

If his favorite sports team were a basketball team instead of a soccer team, he would not have been arrested. Explain.
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Posted on Monday, February 16, 2009 - 3:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he exhibit fanatical behavior? Something specific to soccer? Kicking? Not using hands?
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Is nationality important?
Is soccer vs. football important?
Is location important? Is he in America? Somewhere else?
Does it matter which particular soccer team he liked?
Does it matter whether he watches his favorite sports team live at the stadium? In a bar? At home?
Is race/ethnicity important?
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Posted on Monday, February 16, 2009 - 5:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is he in the middle east?

Does this have to with an action he performed? Ie kicking a soccer ball with the iraqi flag on it?

Is cheering or chanting relevant?

Is the arresting police officer's favorite sport relevant? Least favorite?

Does arrested mean taken to jail or prison for an alleged crime committed?
Smartyllama (Smartyllama)
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Posted on Monday, February 16, 2009 - 1:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he exhibit fanatical behavior? Something specific to soccer? Kicking? Not using hands? none of these

Is nationality important? yes
Is soccer vs. football important? no, it's just that I'm American so I call it soccer
Is location important? yes Is he in America? Somewhere else? this one
Does it matter which particular soccer team he liked?
Does it matter whether he watches his favorite sports team live at the stadium? In a bar? At home? no doesn't matter
Is race/ethnicity important? no

Is he in the middle east? some people consider his country to be the Middle East. Some don't.

Does this have to with an action he performed? yes Ie kicking a soccer ball with the iraqi flag on it? but not this

Is cheering or chanting relevant? no verbal cheering at least

Is the arresting police officer's favorite sport relevant? Least favorite? no

Does arrested mean taken to jail or prison for an alleged crime committed? yes
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Posted on Monday, February 16, 2009 - 7:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did he say something? If so, was it interpreted the wrong way? Is a specific team relevant?

Did he interact in any way with one of the players? The coach? Another fan?

Is he in Egypt? Elsewhere in Northern Africa? Turkey? India? Pakistan?
Smartyllama (Smartyllama)
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Did he say something? noish If so, was it interpreted the wrong way? yope Is a specific team relevant? a specific basketball team - yes. A specific soccer team - no, but since this is a true story, there's one that it really happened with.

Did he interact in any way with one of the players? The coach? Another fan? none of these

Is he in Egypt? Elsewhere in Northern Africa? this one Turkey? India? Pakistan?
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Is he American? European? African? Asian? Latino?

Is the soccer ball itself important? A basketball?

Did he break a law in the country he was in?

Did somebody (or many people) near him break the law? Like a riot after their team lost?

Was he oblivious to the fact he was breaking the law?

Was he a tourist? An immigrant? A lifetime citizen?

Is war important? Internal conflicts?
Smartyllama (Smartyllama)
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Posted on Monday, February 16, 2009 - 11:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is he American? European? African? probably this one Asian? Latino?

Is the soccer ball itself important? A basketball? neither of these

Did he break a law in the country he was in? yes

Did somebody (or many people) near him break the law? Like a riot after their team lost? no

Was he oblivious to the fact he was breaking the law? possibly, but not too relevant

Was he a tourist? An immigrant? A lifetime citizen? irrelevant

Is war important? no Internal conflicts? what do you mean
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Posted on Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 3:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is there only one basketball team that he could have suported that wouldn't have gotten him arrested?

Was he watching a game when he performed the arrestable offense? Wearing team merchandise? Imitating a favorite player? Or was he arrested for not doing something?

Is he in Libya? Morocco? Tunisia? Algeria? Ethiopia? Will getting the country help me at all (assuming I'm not an expert on Northern African systems of law)?
Smartyllama (Smartyllama)
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Is there only one basketball team that he could have suported that wouldn't have gotten him arrested? yes

Was he watching a game when he performed the arrestable offense? no Wearing team merchandise? irr Imitating a favorite player? no Or was he arrested for not doing something? no

Is he in Libya? Morocco? this one Tunisia? Algeria? Ethiopia? Will getting the country help me at all (assuming I'm not an expert on Northern African systems of law)? probably not, but as its a true story you might recognize it. Also, it will help if you know something else about Morocco.
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Is the French language important? History of Morocco?

The basketball team he supported....is it an American team? A national team? A national team from Europe? Africa? Somewhere else?

Is racism important? The right of blacks to play in professional sports?

Is he a basketball player himself? Perhaps a soccer player?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 12:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did his support of the soccer team equate with illegally insulting a member of royalty?

Was this a soccer team from morroco he was supporting? one playing against Morocco?
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Posted on Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 7:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the French language important? not at all History of Morocco? no-ish

The basketball team he supported....is it an American team? this one A national team? A national team from Europe? Africa? Somewhere else?

Is racism important? The right of blacks to play in professional sports? neither of these

Did his support of the soccer team equate with illegally insulting a member of royalty? this is a tricky one... I'll go with either yesish or yope

Was this a soccer team from morroco he was supporting? one playing against Morocco? neither of these

Is he a basketball player himself? Perhaps a soccer player? irr
Hiphapa (Hiphapa)
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Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 8:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

About the yesish/yope on the royalty question...
Did he insult the present government?
A coup about to overthrow the current one? Or one that already has?
Did he insult a king? Queen? Dictator? President? Someone in the military?
...or is "insult" the wrong word to use?

About the American basketball team...
Is the team name important?
Are the team colors important?
The team's hometown?
The way a fan would cheer for that team? (like Atlanta fans doing the Tomahawk for the Braves in baseball)

About the internal conflict I asked about earlier....
Was there a civil war?
Was there bloodshed in the streets?
Were people in danger at the time?
Was there a bitter feud between soccer teams? Basketball teams?
Smartyllama (Smartyllama)
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Posted on Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 10:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

About the yesish/yope on the royalty question...
Did he insult the present government?
A coup about to overthrow the current one? Or one that already has?
Did he insult a king? Queen? Dictator? President? Someone in the military?
...or is "insult" the wrong word to use? none of these.... what it means is that it was not directly his support of the soccer team but something he did because he supported it

About the American basketball team...
Is the team name important? yes
Are the team colors important? no to rest
The team's hometown?
The way a fan would cheer for that team? (like Atlanta fans doing the Tomahawk for the Braves in baseball)

About the internal conflict I asked about earlier....
Was there a civil war?
Was there bloodshed in the streets?
Were people in danger at the time?
Was there a bitter feud between soccer teams? Basketball teams? none of these
Hiphapa (Hiphapa)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 12:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

In that case, here comes a list! Is the basketball team in question the...

76ers?
Bobcats?
Bucks?
Bulls?
Cavaliers?
Celtics?
Clippers?
Grizzlies?
Hawks?
Heat?
Hornets?
Jazz?
Kings?
Knicks?
Lakers?
Magic?
Mavericks?
Nets?
Nuggets?
Pacers?
Pistons?
Raptors?
Rockets?
Suns?
Spurs?
Thunder?
Timberwolves?
Trail Blazers?
Warriors?
Wizards?

...or a team that no longer exists/changed its name?
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Did he support the team by wearing its colors/logo, and this was considered inappropriate somehow? Are his specific actions relevant, or could he have done just anything that smacked of supporting the team and gotten in trouble for it?

For example, if he supported a Catholic team, wore its jersey, and walked into a Protestant neighborhood of Glasgow, this might be seen as intent to incite a riot and get him arrested. :p
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Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 8:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I just emailed smartyllama to confirm that this is indeed what I believed it to be, and he has given me consent to take it over. So I will.


In that case, here comes a list! Is the basketball team in question the...

76ers?
Bobcats?
Bucks?
Bulls?
Cavaliers?
Celtics?
Clippers?
Grizzlies?
Hawks?
Heat?
Hornets?
Jazz?
Kings? this one
Knicks?
Lakers?
Magic?
Mavericks?
Nets?
Nuggets?
Pacers?
Pistons?
Raptors?
Rockets?
Suns?
Spurs?
Thunder?
Timberwolves?
Trail Blazers?
Warriors?
Wizards?

...or a team that no longer exists/changed its name?

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Did he support the team by wearing its colors/logo, and this was considered inappropriate somehow no ? Are his specific actions relevant, yes or could he have done just anything that smacked of supporting the team and gotten in trouble for it? no, there is one specific thing he did

For example, if he supported a Catholic team, wore its jersey, and walked into a Protestant neighborhood of Glasgow, this might be seen as intent to incite a riot and get him arrested. :p good thought, but no
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Posted on Friday, August 28, 2009 - 10:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Come on.... anybody want to take a crack at this one?
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Posted on Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 12:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it something he said? or something he physically did?

Did he say the soccer team was the greatest, which offended the King, but if he had said the Kings were the greatest he would have been ok?
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Posted on Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 1:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it something he said? or something he physically did? Well, he wrote it

Did he say the soccer team was the greatest, which offended the King, but if he had said the Kings were the greatest he would have been ok? Close enough. I might as well tell you

****SPOILER*****

A schoolchild in Morocco was arrested last year for writing "God, Country, Barca" on the chalkboard in his school, that being both a cheer for his favorite team, FC Barelona, as well as a parody on "God Country King" which is Morocco's national motto. So, had he been a fan of the Sacramento Kings (hey, maybe that would make 3) he would have been OK.

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