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Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 3:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

My dad was just being polite, but I thought he was rude. Why?
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Polite: to you? Rude: to you?
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Polite: to you? Rude: to you? No to both.
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Polite/rude to the same person?

THe person was M/F? Adult? Your mother? Someone you knew well? Relevant?
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Polite/rude to the same person? Yes.

THe person was M/F? Irr. Adult? Yes. Your mother? No. Someone you knew well? No. Relevant? No.
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Did your dad say something? or do something?

Was this something that happened when he first met a person? Something that happened during a coversation? Something at the end of a conversation or meeting?
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Did your dad say something? This. or do something?

Was this something that happened when he first met a person? Something that happened during a coversation? Something at the end of a conversation or meeting? This.
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Was what he actually said about the person? A situation?

Was the person in question disabled/challenged in some way?
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Was what he actually said about the person? A situation? Neither, really, but situation is arguable.

Was the person in question disabled/challenged in some way? No.
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Was what he said jargon/slang? A local colloquilaism? A business phrase?

If yes to one of the above, did you misinterpret it using "normal" language?
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Was what he said jargon/slang? No. A local colloquilaism? No. A business phrase? No, but commonly used in business conversations.

If yes to one of the above, did you misinterpret it using "normal" language? Arguable. It does not normally have two meanings; I thought it had a meaning it did not.
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Did he say something that is commonly said at the end of a conversation? like "goodbye", "see you later", "have a safe trip" or something like that?
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Did he say something that is commonly said at the end of a conversation? like "goodbye", "see you later", "have a safe trip" or something like that? It is commonly said at the end of the very shortest conversations, but will not be the last thing said in a longer one, when one of the above suggestions is more likely.
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So long?
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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So long?

No, it's not a statement of farewell.
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Was he on the phone? Relevant?

Was what he said a response to what the other party said? would hearing what the other party said change your judgement of what he said?
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Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 3:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Same to you"?
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The shortest conversations I can think of are when you're walking past someone in a hallway (e.g. "how are you?" "fine" or "what's up?" "not much"). Is what he said related to quick replies like "fine" or "not much" in these conversations?
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Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 5:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmm, no, "same to you" probably isn't used often in business conversations...

Was your mistaken impression that it was a sexual reference? Like, "see if you can fit me in"?
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Posted on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 9:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he on the phone? Relevant? No to both.

Was what he said a response to what the other party said? Yes. would hearing what the other party said change your judgement of what he said? No, and I did hear what was said.

"Same to you"? No.

The shortest conversations I can think of are when you're walking past someone in a hallway (e.g. "how are you?" "fine" or "what's up?" "not much"). Is what he said related to quick replies like "fine" or "not much" in these conversations? Could easily happen, depending on the circumstances.

Hmm, no, "same to you" probably isn't used often in business conversations...

Was your mistaken impression that it was a sexual reference? Like, "see if you can fit me in"? No.
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Posted on Friday, September 04, 2009 - 4:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hint: As noted above, my dad's statement was brief, almost a phrase. In fact, it was only three words long (and can be shortened to two). I am positive everyone on this board has used it many times in different situations.
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Posted on Friday, September 04, 2009 - 11:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was he talking to you?

you mentioned it could be shortened from 3 to 2 words. So, does it contain two words that can be put together into a conjunction? Are those two words:

Can not (can't)
Do not (don't)
Will not (won't)
should not (shouldn't)
It is (it's)
They are (they're)
Something else not mentioned above containing a negative (not, etc)
Assuming it contains something that can be shortened to a conjunction, would this puzzle still work had your father shortened it to a conjunction form?
Would the puzzle still work if your father said it in Spanish? French? Would the statement work for this puzzle in all languages? In any besides English?
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Was he talking to you? No. If he had, I probably would have protested and the scrund would have been disabused immediately.

you mentioned it could be shortened from 3 to 2 words. So, does it contain two words that can be put together into a conjunction? No, and he could have used either the two or three-word version and I'd still have had the scrund.

Would the puzzle still work if your father said it in Spanish? French? Would the statement work for this puzzle in all languages? In any besides English?

I'm pretty sure it would translate to any language and be understood, but since I don't know any other languages I don't know for certain.
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Posted on Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 6:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Can it be shortened to two words because one word can be implied? Like "I don't know" is often shortened to "don't know" in conversation?

Did you think that what he said was threatening? Belittling? Disgusting? Complaining? Ungrateful?

Was what he actually said encouraging? A statement about his present condition (e.g. "fine" or "happy")? Grateful? Complimentary? Praise? Small talk?
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Can it be shortened to two words because one word can be implied? Yes. Like "I don't know" is often shortened to "don't know" in conversation? Just like that, yes.

Did you think that what he said was threatening? No. Belittling? Possibly. Disgusting? No. Complaining? No. Ungrateful? Yes.

Was what he actually said encouraging? No. A statement about his present condition (e.g. "fine" or "happy")? No. Grateful? Yesish. Complimentary? No. Praise? No. Small talk? No.
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Had the person he was speaking to performed a service for him? Said something nice to him? Paid him a compliment? Asked him a question?

Sudden thought: anything to do with the word "ingenious"? Something similar, in that it has a prefix that means something other than what one would think it means?
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Had the person he was speaking to performed a service for him? Yes. Said something nice to him? No. Paid him a compliment? No. Asked him a question? Yes.

Sudden thought: anything to do with the word "ingenious"? Something similar, in that it has a prefix that means something other than what one would think it means? Nothing like that, or like the word "inflammable", either. :p
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Did the question refer to the service that was performed? If so, did the person ask him how he liked the service? Ask if there was anything else he needed? Ask if he would write a recommendation about the service? Ask him to do something in return?
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Did the question refer to the service that was performed? Yes. If so, did the person ask him how he liked the service? Ask if there was anything else he needed? This is one possibility, yes. Ask if he would write a recommendation about the service? Ask him to do something in return? No to the rest.
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Did he say "no thank you"?
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Did he say "no thank you"? Yes! You're almost done.
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Did you somehow think that "no thank you" meant that he was telling them they didn't deserve to be thanked (e.g. There's no "thank you" for you!)?
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Did you somehow think that "no thank you" meant that he was telling them they didn't deserve to be thanked (e.g. There's no "thank you" for you!)? You got it.

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My Dad was talking with someone at a store, and they asked if he wanted to include some option in his purchase. His answer of "no thanks," made me think he intended to buy the item but not thank the storekeeper for it.

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