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Lynne (Lynne)
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Posted on Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 9:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The new furniture made Bob cry
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Allergy? Sadness? Disappointment? Impact/blow? Did he trip over it?
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Alhucema - good morning!

Allergy? Sadness? Disappointment? Impact/blow? Did he trip over it?

Sadness is the closest
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Good morning :-))

Was he sad because of the aspect of the furniture? Its price? The mere fact it existed?

Did he order it himself? Relevant?

And, of course, the obvious one: Is Bob H?A?M?
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Was he sad because of the aspect of the furniture? yes Its price? no The mere fact it existed? no

Did he order it himself? no Relevant? no

And, of course, the obvious one: Is Bob H?A?M? no yes yes
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So Bob is a non-human animal? A pet? A cat? A dog?

Is he unhappy with the smell of the furniture?
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So Bob is a non-human animal? A pet? A cat? A dog? a dog

Is he unhappy with the smell of the furniture? no
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Does he dislike the looks of the furniture? Its disposition? Colour?

Or does the new furniture mean that he has moved to a different house?
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Does he dislike the looks of the furniture? Its disposition? Colour? no to all

Or does the new furniture mean that he has moved to a different house? no
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Does the new furniture symbolize something? A new owner? Or is it just furniture?

Is there anything special about the furniture?
Baby cot?
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Does the new furniture symbolize something? no A new owner? no Or is it just furniture? yes

Is there anything special about the furniture? not special as such, but there is something 'about' it
Baby cot? no
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Is it a set of furniture? Or just pieces of it? Relevant?
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Is it a set of furniture? yes Or just pieces of it? Relevant? yes
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So is there a couch? an armchair? chairs? a table? a cupboard? other?

Kitchen furniture?
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So is there a couch? this an armchair? chairs? and these, but more specifically the couch a table? a cupboard? other?

Kitchen furniture?
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Is it stuffed with something relevant?
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Is it stuffed with something relevant? no
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Has something been added to the furniture? For example, some substance intended to keep pets from jumping on it?
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Jenburdo - hi
Has something been added to the furniture? yope but beware of FA For example, some substance intended to keep pets from jumping on it? no
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Was it too high for him to jump on? Slipcovers?
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Dropofahat - hi there

Was it too high for him to jump on? no Slipcovers? no
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The yopishly added something - is it tangible? Added on purpose? Temporary?
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The yopishly added something - is it tangible? yes Added on purpose? yes Temporary? no

I think this may cause no end of unnecessary confusion, the yope just means that the new furniture has something that the old didn't
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Headrest? Handrest?

Was the old couch a favourite place of the dog? Does the added element prevent him from doing what he was used to?
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Headrest? Handrest? no

Was the old couch a favourite place of the dog? yes but irrelevant Does the added element prevent him from doing what he was used to? in one respect only, yes
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Did he lie/sleep on the couch?

Is the change in the material of the couch? Its overall aspect? Other?
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Did he lie/sleep on the couch? yes he did, and he still can on the new one (it's obvious that we're actually talking about my own dog Shadow)

Is the change in the material of the couch? no Its overall aspect? not sure what you mean here Other? yes
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Just to be sure - is Shadow unhappy basically because he cannot do something on the new couch he was used to do on the old one?

Is the difference in the size? Shape?
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Just to be sure - is Shadow unhappy basically because he cannot do something on the new couch he was used to do on the old one? with the exception of one word in your question, then yes

Is the difference in the size? no Shape? this

and he really does cry - in the whimpering way a dog does (not a howl like our last dog did when we left him at the kennels once (little beggar, we were told that he stopped howling once we were out of sight)
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Would he do "it" just by himself?
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Would he do "it" just by himself? he never had this problem before and now he can't do what he needs to
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So he can't do what he needs to because of the shape of the couch?
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So he can't do what he needs to because of the shape of the couch? that's basically it
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Does he really need to, or just wants to?
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Does he really need to, or just wants to? it's not an essential of his life as far as survival goes, but he obviously wants to - badly
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Does he lie? eat? drink? when doing it? Interact with you/another person? Animal?
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Does he lie? eat? drink? when doing it? lie Interact with you/another person? he sometimes turns to us and whimpers to let us know about it Animal? no
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So is he unable to lie on the couch because of its shape?
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So is he unable to lie on the couch because of its shape? no, he still gets up
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so doing "it" includes other things than just lying?
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so doing "it" includes other things than just lying?yes, if he was able to
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Does he play with something?
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Does he play with something? yes, explore
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A ball? A toy? A part of the couch? A part of human body? A part of his own body?
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A ball? yes A toy? yes A part of the couch? no A part of human body? no A part of his own body? one part is relevant
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paw? tail? head?
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paw? tail? head? paw
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Is the couch too smoall/oddly shaped for him to play?
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He wants to play with the ball on the couch, but the couch is too small?

He can't play a game with the ball anymore?
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Is the couch too smoall/oddly shaped for him to play? no

Natanz - welcome to the puzzle
He wants to play with the ball on the couch, but the couch is too small? no

He can't play a game with the ball anymore? yope
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Does the ball fall somewhere from where Shadow can't retrieve it?
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Does the ball fall somewhere from where Shadow can't retrieve it? with a little yope, otherwise YES! - why does this happen with the new couch and not the old?
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Is there a space between the couch and the wall/something else? Or is it something on the couch?
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Is there a space between the couch and the wall no/something else?yes Or is it something on the couch? no
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Spaces between the cushions? As opposed to one big cushion on the old couch?
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Dropofahat welcome - here's your chance to finish this off! It really isn't difficult...

Spaces between the cushions? As opposed to one big cushion on the old couch? nope
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Are the cushions rounded, so the ball rolls off?
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Are the cushions rounded, so the ball rolls off? no and a bit of a FA
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No cushions on the new sofa?
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No cushions on the new sofa? incorrect
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Does the sofa have cushions?
Are the cushions involved in the "problem"?
Is the problem that the ball... gets stuck somewhere? ...falls off? ...rolls away?
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Does the sofa have cushions? yes
Are the cushions involved in the "problem"? no
Is the problem that the ball... gets stuck somewhere? sort of ...falls off? no ...rolls away? this is problematical but beware of FA
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Is the material the sofa is made from relevant? Is it wicker? Does the ball end up somewhere inaccessible? But still visible? Could a human retrieve it? Without moving the sofa?
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Does it have longer legs than the previous couch, so the ball fits underneath, and he can't get it out?
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Is the material the sofa is made from relevant? no Is it wicker? no Does the ball end up somewhere inaccessible? YESBut still visible? just about Could a human retrieve it? yes Without moving the sofa? yes

Does it have longer legs than the previous couch, so the ball fits underneath, and he can't get it out? YES!

************* SPOILER ****************

Our new three piece suite has little legs so there is a four inch gap between the base and the floor. The previous one didn't. As a result, things often get pushed underneath and the dog's toys often roll there and they land against the wall - too far for his paw to reach. So he lies there with his snout under the couch 'crying in the darkness' as he can see/smell his toy, but can't reach it and we use a grabber thing to get it for him.


Thank you one and all.
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Ah, good puzzle. Too bad I didn't get to it faster.

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