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Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 11:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"...and you can't even make a nice cup of tea." Why?
Flemsneezy (Flemsneezy)
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Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 12:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is some one saying this?

Am i looking for the situation in which one might say this? situation in which one would be unable, for any number of reasons, to make a cup of tea?

"can't" = physically incapable? could but it would be morally wrong? could but incompetence is hindering you?

"nice" = good? appropriate for the situation?

"cup of tea" = a physical cup of tea? just a figure of speech intended to represent something else?

you = H?A?M? Relevant?
Noel (Noel)
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Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 3:05 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"Why" = why can't you make a nice cup of tea? why is someone saying the statement in quotes? Why is it notable that "you" can't make a nice cup of tea?
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 7:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I suppose the first part of the sentence - the one you left out - is far more important than the tea? So that the person is incapable to make a cup of tea AND something else?

Is the tea related to the "something else"?
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 7:20 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is some one saying this? Yes

Am i looking for the situation in which one might say this? No
situation in which one would be unable, for any number of reasons, to make a cup of tea? This one, with a small ish

"can't" = physically incapable? This one could but it would be morally wrong? could but incompetence is hindering you? No to rest

"nice" = good? This
appropriate for the situation?N/A

"cup of tea" = a physical cup of tea?This
just a figure of speech intended to represent something else?No

you = H?A? Yes M?Probably Relevant? Yes
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"Why" = why can't you make a nice cup of tea?This.
why is someone saying the statement in quotes? Why is it notable that "you" can't make a nice cup of tea?Not these
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 7:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I suppose the first part of the sentence - the one you left out - is far more important than the tea?It isn't So that the person is incapable to make a cup of tea AND something else? No

Is the tea related to the "something else"? n/a
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Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 12:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the person unable to make a nice cup of tea because ...the have no teabags or tealeaves? They have no means of boiling water? They simply do not know how to make a cup of tea? they are pysically incapable due to some incapacitation? a disability?

Can they make tea but not nice tea? Is the speaker expressing an opinion or fact? Are they using some sort of tea substitute?
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 12:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the person unable to make a nice cup of tea because ...the have no teabags or tealeaves? They have no means of boiling water? They simply do not know how to make a cup of tea? they are pysically incapable due to some incapacitation? a disability? No to all.

Can they make tea but not nice tea? Correct. Is the speaker expressing an opinion or fact? Fact. Are they using some sort of tea substitute? No.
Markobr (Markobr)
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Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 1:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does "you" refer to a person the speaker addresses? Or does it have a more general meaning? Would "...and one can't even make a nice cup of tea" mean more or less the same?
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 1:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does "you" refer to a person the speaker addresses? No. Or does it have a more general meaning? Yes.
Would "...and one can't even make a nice cup of tea" mean more or less the same? Yes, it could also have been said this way.
Markobr (Markobr)
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Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 1:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So it would be impossible for anyone to make a nice cup of tea?

Is the boiling point of water relevant? Would it be possible to make a nice cup of coffee? A glass of hot milk? To fry eggs? If no, would it be impossible for the same reason you can't make a nice cup of tea?
Noel (Noel)
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Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 1:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the location relevant? Is this on Earth? Or Sci-Fi? If on Earth, are weather conditions relevant? Does this happen in present day?

Real? Fiction? Something you made up?
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 3:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the person speaking identical with the "you" in the puzzle statement (ie would it be possible to say: "I can't even make..)

The impossibility to make a nice cup of tea: is it due to lack of time? space? ingredients? conditions?

Is the problem that the person has the means to make a cup of tea but their quality is not sufficient to make a NICE one?
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 3:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So it would be impossible for anyone to make a nice cup of tea? Yes.

Is the boiling point of water relevant? Yes! Would it be possible to make a nice cup of coffee? No. A glass of hot milk? Yes. To fry eggs? I think so. If no, would it be impossible for the same reason you can't make a nice cup of tea?Yes.
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Is the location relevant? Yes. Is this on Earth? Or Sci-Fi? Earth. If on Earth, are weather conditions relevant? Noish Does this happen in present day? Yes.

Real? Fiction? Something you made up? It's based on reality, but not a specific event.
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Is the person speaking identical with the "you" in the puzzle statement (ie would it be possible to say: "I can't even make..)Yes.

The impossibility to make a nice cup of tea: is it due to lack of time? space? ingredients? conditions?Only conditions.

Is the problem that the person has the means to make a cup of tea but their quality is not sufficient to make a NICE one? If you mean that the tea-making equipment/ingredients are lacking in quality, no.
Noel (Noel)
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Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 3:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Are they at high altitude? Below sea level?
Markobr (Markobr)
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Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 3:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the situation being on a high mountain (e.g. Mount Everest)? And you can't make a cup of tea because the water boils at a temperature far below 100 C?
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 3:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

***SPOILER***

You've got it! Water boils at 69C at the top of Mt. Everest, which is not hot enough to extract the full flavor of tea leaves (or coffee beans).

Thanks for playing (:
Liquizt (Liquizt)
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Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 7:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Except for green teas: http://coffeetea.about.com/od/teabrewing/a/teatemp.htm :)
Alhucema (Alhucema)
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Posted on Friday, October 02, 2009 - 7:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

One more reason for me not to climb up there :-))

Thanks for the puzzle!

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