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Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 4:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Seeing lots of rulebreakers on the forum, I've been being nostalgic and remembering rulebreakers of times gone by. I can't remember if it was the 'original' type of rulebreaker, when first introduced on this forum, but certainly one big trend was the following, which is what I'm doing here:

As normally happens, you ask questions, and I respond. There are no CAs. However, when you work out the rule, you have to prove it by getting me to respond: "By Jove, I think you've got it!"

Otherwise, it's a normal rulebreaker as per usual. Good luck!
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 4:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Will Jove agree?
Is my name GalFisk?
Are you a logician?
How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
Am i a mathematician?
Would Jules amend?
Shall Ernie flee?
What do you think?
If there was such a thing as a flying mansion, what would you do if you owned one?
Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
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Will Jove not agree?
Is my name Quovyntye?
Are you not a logician?
Can six slippery snails slowly slide seewards?
Am I a mathematician?
Shall Jules amend?
Would Ernie flee?
What do I think?
If there was such a thing as a flying cappuccino, what would you do if you owned one?
Noel (Noel)
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Posted on Friday, November 06, 2009 - 5:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

How fun!
Every good boy does fine?
Do you see what I see?
Is the sky falling for chicken little?
Is the sky falling at all?
Are you falling?
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Posted on Saturday, November 07, 2009 - 2:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hello?
Goodbye?
1? 2? 3?
One? Two? Three?
Did the brown fox jump over the lazy dog?
Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
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can pillows fall faster than a bird?
what do bruises like best?
E, T, A, O, I, N?
are red frogs usually sinister?
is tomorrow going to be fresh?
why is London west of Paris?
how does my mailbox know when the workday is done?
where does cake get their material?
can the cat sleep while it's staring at me?
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 3:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Eek...I recognise I was away for the whole weekend, but maybe less questions between each of my posts, please, as I'd like to spend less than an hour in trying to answer them...! Thanks :-)

(This is partly the reason I haven't answered your questions yet, Yojimbo...it's 3am as I write this, and despite my love for the LTPF, I'm going to bed now :-))


Will Jove agree? Well...
Is my name GalFisk? Galfisk? Maybe.
Are you a logician? Logically, yes.
How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood? Well, a woodchuck could chuck lots...
Am i a mathematician? Maybe implicitly.
Would Jules amend? Wouldn't...
Shall Ernie flee? Shouldn't...
What do you think? Thinking deviously.
If there was such a thing as a flying mansion, what would you do if you owned one? Start to wean myself off of driving: it's boring!

Will Jove not agree? What's agreement?
Is my name Quovyntye? It's questionable.
Are you not a logician? Logically, no...
Can six slippery snails slowly slide seewards? Slowly, carefully, smoothly...
Am I a mathematician? Arguably, maybe.
Shall Jules amend? Judiciously...
Would Ernie flee? Easily...
What do I think? Winning tonight.
If there was such a thing as a flying cappuccino, what would you do if you owned one? Ask a yuppie to drink it - don't like cappuccinos.

How fun! Hi!
Every good boy does fine? Five boys...
Do you see what I see? Interestingly, yes. You?
Is the sky falling for chicken little? Falling is likely...
Is the sky falling at all? At the top.
Are you falling? yes...

Hello? ...
Goodbye? ...
1? ... 2? ... 3? ...
One? ... Two? ... Three? ...
Did the brown fox jump over the lazy dog? The beast likely did...
Noel (Noel)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 1:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By?
Jove?
I?
Think?
You've?
Got?
It?
Have you got it?
I've got it.
Actally, no I don't.
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 2:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hey?
What's up?
Do you like?
Am I not grand?
Can you see the rain?
Did you catch the night bus?
Have you met their new best friend?
Will there be a spring May next year?
Honorable mention?
Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis?
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 3:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

can pillows fall faster than a bird? Through a fall...
what do bruises like best? Bruise wax...
E, T, A, O, I, N? In Neo's imagination.
are red frogs usually sinister? Sinisterly red...
is tomorrow going to be fresh? Baby fresh, Bob.
why is London west of Paris? Otherwise, Parisians out.
how does my mailbox know when the workday is done? Karma works here, you know?
where does cake get their material? Their material?
can the cat sleep while it's staring at me? Well, it tries often...

By? ...
Jove? ...
I? ...
Think? ...
You've? ...
Got? ...
It? ...
Have you got it? Hell, yes.
I've got it. Interesting...
Actally, no I don't. Ah, no?

Hey? ...
What's up? U
Do you like? yes...
Am I not grand? Interesting idea.
Can you see the rain? You? Yes...
Did you catch the night bus? Yes, yesterday caught.
Have you met their new best friend? Yes - yesterday. You...
Will there be a spring May next year? Thought 'twas winter now.
Honorable mention? Maybe.
Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis? ...
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 3:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Blooper...

In the final set of questions, I forgot to finish an answer:


What's up? Universe.
Noel (Noel)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 5:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

One day was I bringing jugs inside, or did I just think I did?
Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 5:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was Noel bringing jugs inside?
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 7:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

One day was I bringing jugs inside, or did I just think I did? By Jove, I think you've got it!

Was Noel bringing jugs inside? Inside? No...

The way it was going, it looked like it would go quickly! Care to $poil, Noel? :-)
Noel (Noel)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 8:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, I didn't think I had the whole thing. This is what I know.

The answer depends on the time of the post. Time X:YZ
-The first word in the answer starts with the same first letter as the Xth word of the question.
- The second word starts with the same first letter as the word that is Y places after the Xth word.
- The third word starts with the same first letter as the word that is Z places after the X+Yth word.
- If the sentence is too short, you loop around to the beginning.

Is that the whole rule? I was scratching my head trying to figure out how you got some of your longer answers that are more than three words.

Also, it was challenging to ask an appropriate question once I figured it out. I started trying to figure out an answer at 4:5something. By the time I finished my question, it was after 5:00, so I had to change my question. Then I had to wait several minutes because it wouldn't work if either of the numbers in the minute were 0. Then I was afraid I was going to post it at the wrong minute. So I feel slightly less sorry for you that we asked so many questions in the first set. ;p
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 8:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Well, I didn't think I had the whole thing. This is what I know.

The answer depends on the time of the post. Time X:YZ
-The first word in the answer starts with the same first letter as the Xth word of the question.
- The second word starts with the same first letter as the word that is Y places after the Xth word.
- The third word starts with the same first letter as the word that is Z places after the X+Yth word.
- If the sentence is too short, you loop around to the beginning. that's pretty much right

Is that the whole rule? not entirely, see below I was scratching my head trying to figure out how you got some of your longer answers that are more than three words. May as well say - if I continue after three words, the rest of the sentence is arbitrary (and so, if I could answer "...think you've got it!" to finish the sentence accordingly, I did)... the alternative was to force you to be even more complex in your sentence construction in eliciting my response :-)

The only part of the rule that's left is: why did I not stop my response at, for instance, "By Jove, I think..."?


Also, it was challenging to ask an appropriate question once I figured it out. I started trying to figure out an answer at 4:5something. By the time I finished my question, it was after 5:00, so I had to change my question. Then I had to wait several minutes because it wouldn't work if either of the numbers in the minute were 0. Then I was afraid I was going to post it at the wrong minute. So I feel slightly less sorry for you that we asked so many questions in the first set. ;p lol, sorry! Always the problem with rulebreakers where the time plays a part in the rule...I'll try to make it methodologically easier next time I do one :-)
Noel (Noel)
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Posted on Tuesday, November 10, 2009 - 11:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It seems to have something to do with the number of words in the answer. The longer the question is, the longer the answer tended to be. I can't figure out if it's a limit on the number of times you loop around, or something else.
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 10:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Shouldn't be too difficult, I hope. As a clue, look at all the questions where my answer has simply been "...". Look at other answers where ellipses have formed part of my answer. Extrapolate accordingly... :-)
Noel (Noel)
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Posted on Friday, November 13, 2009 - 12:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh geesh. It's even/odd number of words, isn't it? The question has to have an even number of words to avoid ellipses.

Everything I was thinking of before was way too complicated.
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Posted on Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 10:00 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

The amount of words in a question has twice as the amount of words in its answer.
If the word is even, take away one from the amount of letters it has double it and that's how many words the answer has plus "...".
Ex.
"Are you now alive?" 4 / 2 = 2 so "Am Alive" could be an answer.
"Are you alive" 3 - 1 = 2 / 2 = 1 so "Yes..."

And so that's it?
If the time of the question was 5:11 then you'd
keep repeating that until there's not enough words in the question. Then you'd add in more relevant words to fill up the amount of words you worked out that question's answer is meant to have.

So my question is
3:32
Are you there with me, or are you just not here?

So the answer would start with:
T O A N

And the letters:
11 - 1 = 10 / 2 = 5 so
Two oranges and nuts sing.
Am I OTRT?
Logician (Logician)
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Posted on Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 10:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

***** SPOILER *****

Together, you've pretty much got it. There are some technical inaccuracies, and I could probably force you to get it precisely right, but that'd be too cruel :-) The three parts to the rule are as follows:

1) If the number of words in the question is n, then the answer has n/2 words. If n/2 is not a whole number, then an ellipsis replaces the .5 of a word.

2) For the first three words of an answer, I'm going to quote Noel from earlier, which gives a perfect, similarly algebraic, rationale:

The answer depends on the time of the post. Time X:YZ
-The first word in the answer starts with the same first letter as the Xth word of the question.
- The second word starts with the same first letter as the word that is Y places after the Xth word.
- The third word starts with the same first letter as the word that is Z places after the X+Yth word.
- If the sentence is too short, loop around to the beginning.

3) After the third word, the rest of the sentence is arbitrarily chosen in accordance with the sentence-length as determined by rule 1). If it is possible to answer "By Jove, I think you've got it!", then do so.


Well done to both of you!
Noel (Noel)
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Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 3:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Ha, so it was total luck that I happened to ask a question of exactly 14 words. =) I was just trying to ask a long enough question that your answer might give me a clue about how the rest of the rule went.
Noel (Noel)
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Posted on Monday, November 16, 2009 - 3:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

PS, I very much enjoyed this rulebreaker. Thank you.

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