| Author | Message | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 691 Registered: 5-2007 |
Eight | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1092 Registered: 7-2009 |
eight alone? Does it have to be eight? Or could it be 8? Or a different number? Spelling (mispelling) relevant? Ate misspelled? A word like Freight? Or Weight? Or Eighth? | ||
| Andramelach (Andramelach)
New member Username: Andramelach Post Number: 5 Registered: 11-2009 |
eight meaning a specific number in a sequence? Does this signify a total or a corresponding letter in a word? Do the individual letters have meaning? An anagram, sequence, password? | ||
| Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani Post Number: 303 Registered: 10-2006 |
coster: as in costermonger: noun Brit. a person who sells fruit or vegetables from a cart or street stand? or coaster: 1. One that coasts, as: a. One who acts in an aimless manner.? b. A sled or toboggan.? c. One who rides a sled or toboggan.? or 5. A resident of a coastal region.? "is finished jumping on his mother": should this be taken literally? or metaphorically? does the expression have some special proverbial sense to it? | ||
| Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
New member Username: Yojimbo Post Number: 29 Registered: 11-2009 |
or is "coster" some jargon for a store employee or other person engaged in establishing prices/costs/other financial implications/impacts? title relevant? Mani: nice [LTPF coaster list] | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 579 Registered: 6-2003 |
Am I right to assume that "Pirates of Penzance" are not particularly relevant here? neither is the "infernal nonsense of Pinafore"? Is a person named Coster relevant? Charles de Coster? "Eight" as in "not seven"? "not any other number"? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 4097 Registered: 12-2000 |
Eight is a lucky number in China (and maybe other countries). Any relevance with luck? Was this the final tally of something? Had there been more or less than eight within the framework of this puzzle? Octoplets? That's all the father could utter before checking his bank balance and running off? | ||
| Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
New member Username: Fleemco198 Post Number: 180 Registered: 9-2009 |
does the title have any sort of relevance at all.....? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 692 Registered: 5-2007 |
eight alone? no Does it have to be eight? no Or could it be 8? yes Or a different number? no Spelling (mispelling) relevant? no Ate misspelled? no A word like Freight? Or Weight? Or Eighth? none of these, except insofar as "eight" is a word like all of these eight meaning a specific number yes in a sequence? no Does this signify a total this one or a corresponding letter in a word? no Do the individual letters have meaning? of "eight"? no An anagram, sequence, password? none of those coster: as in costermonger: noun Brit. a person who sells fruit or vegetables from a cart or street stand? yes, indeed or coaster: 1. One that coasts, as: a. One who acts in an aimless manner.? b. A sled or toboggan.? c. One who rides a sled or toboggan.? or 5. A resident of a coastal region.? and none of those "is finished jumping on his mother": should this be taken literally? or metaphorically? does the expression have some special proverbial sense to it? see below for further elucidation or is "coster" some jargon for a store employee or other person engaged in establishing prices/costs/other financial implications/impacts? it is not Am I right to assume that "Pirates of Penzance" are not particularly relevant here? you are not neither is the "infernal nonsense of Pinafore"? but Pinafore is not relevant Is a person named Coster relevant? no Charles de Coster? never heard of him "Eight" as in "not seven"? yes "not any other number"? indeed Eight is a lucky number in China (and maybe other countries). Any relevance with luck? on the contrary, perhaps... Was this the final tally of something? no Had there been more or less than eight within the framework of this puzzle? no Octoplets? That's all the father could utter before checking his bank balance and running off? no, but good thinking (if not especially good spelling of "octuplets") does the title have any sort of relevance at all.....? it does, and it may be Googled at will, as may everything in any woubit puzzle | ||
| Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
New member Username: Yojimbo Post Number: 41 Registered: 11-2009 |
are any of the following relevant? Pirates of Penzance? Gilbert? Sullivan? number of pirates, number of daughters, number of police? Major General Stanley? Frederick's [classic] birthday? 32? 46? time of day? time signature of music? of music in PofP? | ||
| Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani Post Number: 308 Registered: 10-2006 |
Are we dealing with a specific situation in this puzzle? If so, is the phrase in the title uttered in this situation? Does it take place beside a street cart or stand? Selling fruit? Or vegetables? Does "coster" refer to the wares sold? Or to their salesman/-woman? Is any of the following bludderings tangentially somewhat relevant: coster mother? "when the coster's finished jumping on his monger"? "when the monger's finished jumping on his coster"? "is finished jumping on his mother": should this be taken literally? or metaphorically? does the expression have some special proverbial sense to it? see below for further elucidation ? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 693 Registered: 5-2007 |
are any of the following relevant? Pirates of Penzance? peripherally Gilbert? Sullivan? not at all number of pirates, number of daughters, number of police? no Major General Stanley? no Frederick's [classic] birthday? no - this puzzle is not really about the plot of The Pirates of Penzance 32? 46? time of day? time signature of music? of music in PofP? and not about any of those things either, but good erudition backed up by good thinking Are we dealing with a specific situation in this puzzle? yesish If so, is the phrase in the title uttered in this situation? no Does it take place beside a street cart or stand? Selling fruit? Or vegetables? none of these Does "coster" refer to the wares sold? Or to their salesman/-woman? in this context the word "coster" was an abbreviation for the word "costermonger", which as you have correctly discerned was a street vendor of fruit and vegetables. This, however, isn't generally heard and if it is, it doesn't matter... Is any of the following bludderings tangentially somewhat relevant: coster mother? "when the coster's finished jumping on his monger"? "when the monger's finished jumping on his coster"? no - this is not to do with spoonerisms, though it does involve word play of a different kind "is finished jumping on his mother": should this be taken literally? or metaphorically? does the expression have some special proverbial sense to it? no, not really | ||
| Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
New member Username: Yojimbo Post Number: 50 Registered: 11-2009 |
not PofP? drat; it's the only G/S I know well, at all... however: is the Policeman's Song (from PofP) relevant? is it (ditto song) relevant as an example of implied wordplay? eight bells relevant? directions relevant? time relevant? h/m/s? m/d/y? location relevant? any HAMs relevant? HAFs? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 694 Registered: 5-2007 |
however: is the Policeman's Song (from PofP) relevant? yes is it (ditto song) relevant as an example of implied wordplay? no eight bells relevant? no directions relevant? no time relevant? h/m/s? m/d/y? no location relevant? no any HAMs relevant? a few HAFs? a few more | ||
| Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
New member Username: Yojimbo Post Number: 51 Registered: 11-2009 |
pirates/police/daughters relevant? felons/felonies relevant? punishment/penance/restitution relevant? vegetables relevant? mothers relevant? is the relevant situation real? fictional? octal notation relevant? binary? rhythm/meter (e.g., iambic) relevant? implied disparity between HAMs and HAFs relevant? | ||
| Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani Post Number: 319 Registered: 10-2006 |
snooker relevant? any gambling involved? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 695 Registered: 5-2007 |
pirates/police/ this, for svv of "police" daughters relevant? felons/felonies relevant? no punishment/penance/restitution relevant? no vegetables relevant? no mothers relevant? no is the relevant situation real? this one fictional? octal notation relevant? binary? no rhythm/meter (e.g., iambic) relevant? no implied disparity between HAMs and HAFs relevant? disparity? I meant no such implication - if there are four men in a room, one might say "there are a few people in that room"; if four women enter the room, one might then say "there are a few more people in that room" snooker relevant? no, but an interesting piece of thinking any gambling involved? no | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 513 Registered: 3-2004 |
Does "mother" from the title have any relevance? "jumping"? Any relevance to the phrase "A policeman's lot is not a happy one" from the song? Is anything illegal going on in the puzzle? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 696 Registered: 5-2007 |
Does "mother" from the title have any relevance? no "jumping"? no Any relevance to the phrase "A policeman's lot is not a happy one" from the song? yes indeed, again for svv of "policeman" Is anything illegal going on in the puzzle? no | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 590 Registered: 6-2003 |
Is "eight" (or "Eight"?) in this puzzle a quantity of something? a number of things? a number of items of the same kind? (the number of ravens in the Tower of London?) a number? a score? an Eight in a deck of cards? eight holes in golf? eight tricks in bridge? Is there only "eight" left of something? and this quantity is declining? and when there's nothing left something/somebody/some organization/some profession/some idea becomes obsolete? Is there somebody whose lot is not a happy one? if so: one individual? a group of people? members of a particular profession? government workers? the LTPF puzzlers? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 697 Registered: 5-2007 |
Is "eight" (or "Eight"?) in this puzzle a quantity of something? no a number of things? no, not really a number of items of the same kind? (the number of ravens in the Tower of London?) no - eight is merely the number eight, but you need to explore some other ways in which the number eight might be represented a number? yes a score? no an Eight in a deck of cards? no eight holes in golf? no eight tricks in bridge? no, but bonus marks for references to the interests of the problem setter Is there only "eight" left of something? and this quantity is declining? and when there's nothing left something/somebody/some organization/some profession/some idea becomes obsolete? nothing of this kind - see above Is there somebody whose lot is not a happy one? yes if so: one individual? yes to my knowledge, though it is not impossible that there are two or three others a group of people? see foregoing members of a particular profession? no government workers? no the LTPF puzzlers? yes | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1121 Registered: 7-2009 |
the unhappy/unfortunate LTPF puzzler(s): unhappy because of political affiliation? place of residence? a circumstance in family life? a circumstance in personal life? an unfortunate name? Is it you? Eight: A "snowman" in golf? A designation (such as district 8)? A number randomly assigned to identify a particular item? A price? A time? A year? An age? | ||
| Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani Post Number: 322 Registered: 10-2006 |
VIII? | ||
| Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani Post Number: 323 Registered: 10-2006 |
Eternity? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1123 Registered: 7-2009 |
Relevant that the title has eight words? | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 594 Registered: 6-2003 |
Number 8 = #8 ? Is the unfortunate puzzler Jenburdoo? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 698 Registered: 5-2007 |
the unhappy/unfortunate LTPF puzzler(s): unhappy because of political affiliation? no place of residence? no a circumstance in family life? no a circumstance in personal life? no an unfortunate name? no Is it you? yes Eight: A "snowman" in golf? A designation (such as district 8)? A number randomly assigned to identify a particular item? this is closest A price? A time? A year? An age? the others are not very close at all VIII? no, but console yourself, for well it was said by the bard that anyone can make a mistake representing numbers: Even Jupiter, ruler of Gods and men - All the time he was going around with Io, he pronounced it Ten. Eternity? if you mean infinity, no but a good piece of thinking. If you mean eternity, no. Relevant that the title has eight words? no, but ingenious - I hadn't noticed | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 699 Registered: 5-2007 |
Number 8 = #8 ? no Is the unfortunate puzzler Jenburdoo? no - see above | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1124 Registered: 7-2009 |
So you are the "policeman" (svv) with the unhappy lot... Does "policeman" more accurately refer to "moderator"? Does "Eight" refer to the fact that you are the eighth (and last) moderator listed here: http://www.lateralpuzzles.com/cgi-bin/discus/board-contact.cgi ? | ||
| Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani Post Number: 324 Registered: 10-2006 |
Eternity? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 516 Registered: 6-2009 |
Infinity? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 700 Registered: 5-2007 |
So you are the "policeman" (svv) with the unhappy lot... yes indeed, and what is more... Does "policeman" more accurately refer to "moderator"? ...yes Does "Eight" refer to the fact that you are the eighth (and last) moderator listed here: http://www.lateralpuzzles.com/cgi-bin/discus/board-contact.cgi ? but no Eternity? no Infinity? and no. Eight is no more nor less than eight, but... | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1126 Registered: 7-2009 |
Would you say that all moderators are likely to share your unhappy lot? Some moderators? Or are the LTPFers who might share in your unhappy lot not moderators at all? Does your unhappiness come from your responsibilities as a moderator? From sharing duties? From the fact that there are eight moderators? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 701 Registered: 5-2007 |
Would you say that all moderators are likely to share your unhappy lot? interesting question - I would say that they should, but it appears to me that they do not. But well it was said by the bard: See how the Fates their gifts allot, For A is happy - B is not. Yet B is worthy, I dare say, Of more prosperity than A. W S Gilbert, The Mikado Some moderators? as above Or are the LTPFers who might share in your unhappy lot not moderators at all? no - this is a misery granted in particular to moderators (or one of them, at least) on the LTPF Does your unhappiness come from your responsibilities as a moderator? yes, in part From sharing duties? no, not really From the fact that there are eight moderators? no, not at all | ||
| Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani Post Number: 326 Registered: 10-2006 |
A whopping amount of eight puzzles moved to Lateral Limbo? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 702 Registered: 5-2007 |
A whopping amount of eight puzzles moved to Lateral Limbo? no | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2284 Registered: 1-2007 |
Anything to do with the fact that your posts count gets zeroised upon reaching the high office of Moderator? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 703 Registered: 5-2007 |
Anything to do with the fact that your posts count gets zeroised upon reaching the high office of Moderator? does it? I didn't know that. But it doesn't matter in the context of this puzzle. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1128 Registered: 7-2009 |
Does your unhappiness have anything to do with your non-moderator actions on the site? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 704 Registered: 5-2007 |
Does your unhappiness have anything to do with your non-moderator actions on the site? no - it is caused solely by one of the actions I perform as a moderator | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 596 Registered: 6-2003 |
Is eight a label for something? part of an address? part of a phone number? eight o'clock? Is any representation of the number eight relevant? if so: 8? 1000? 2*2*2? Eight? 8) as emoticon? (eyes wide open) Relevant that in a few weeks you as moderator would have to delete your own "Wrong station" puzzle? | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 524 Registered: 3-2004 |
The action you perform makes you unhappy because...: you just don't like to do that kind of work? it feels too much like work? it may displease other members and you don't like to be "mean" to others? you don't agree with a certain forum rule making you do that action? you think "it's a shame" the action needs to be done? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1132 Registered: 7-2009 |
Hmm, the eighth listed rule in the user guide is the one about not posting classic puzzles. Relevant? It seems to me that the links to the classic puzzles in that user guide are both broken links. (or at least they're not loading for me). Relevant? I had thought that this might be about the rule not to spell out the word $poiler until you are finished with the puzzle because it causes problems for moderators, but I count that as number 7. But it still seems like the most logical rule to cause "unhappiness" for a moderator to me. Is it relevant? | ||
| Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
New member Username: Yojimbo Post Number: 70 Registered: 11-2009 |
does Eight have much to do with moderators having to deal with us poor noobs..? is the misery rather literal, and the poor policeman's lot is really not a happy one? a truly miserable mod? or an annoyed mod? an irked/vexed mod? mod(s) in denial? user-interface relevant? bandwidth? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 705 Registered: 5-2007 |
Is eight a label for something? yesish, but only very ish - that is, "eight" is a designator for something, but only if correctly rephrased part of an address? no part of a phone number? no eight o'clock? no Is any representation of the number eight relevant? very much so if so: 8? 1000? 2*2*2? this is closest Eight? 8) as emoticon? (eyes wide open) no Relevant that in a few weeks you as moderator would have to delete your own "Wrong station" puzzle? no - wish I could remember the answer to that one The action you perform makes you unhappy because...: you just don't like to do that kind of work? no it feels too much like work? the effort involved is truly minimal it may displease other members and you don't like to be "mean" to others? no you don't agree with a certain forum rule making you do that action? no you think "it's a shame" the action needs to be done? no, not really - more of a nuisance Hmm, the eighth listed rule in the user guide is the one about not posting classic puzzles. Relevant? no It seems to me that the links to the classic puzzles in that user guide are both broken links. (or at least they're not loading for me). Relevant? no - some links were broken some time ago when we "upgraded" to a new version of the software that drives this board. They have not been fixed; perhaps they cannot be. I had thought that this might be about the rule not to spell out the word $poiler until you are finished with the puzzle because it causes problems for moderators, but I count that as number 7. But it still seems like the most logical rule to cause "unhappiness" for a moderator to me. Is it relevant? no - in fact, the use of the word in plain text in a puzzle has never caused me the slightest difficulty does Eight have much to do with moderators having to deal with us poor noobs..? not in the least - it is always good to see new faces on the forum is the misery rather literal, and the poor policeman's lot is really not a happy one? no - the question is more of a fleeting moment of vexation a truly miserable mod? or an annoyed mod? an irked/vexed mod? mod(s) in denial? nothing like this user-interface relevant? no bandwidth? and no - sorry about all the "nos"; I am not actually in denial, even though I may at present seem to resemble "der Geist, der stets verneint" (or should that be "verachtet" in this puzzle?) | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1136 Registered: 7-2009 |
Hmm, similar to 2*2*2... 2x4? Construction relevant? Website construction, perhaps? 2^3? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 706 Registered: 5-2007 |
Hmm, similar to 2*2*2... 2x4? very close indeed Construction relevant? no Website construction, perhaps? no 2^3? no | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 531 Registered: 3-2004 |
We could always try 4*2 then...? 2+2+2+2? 4+4? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 707 Registered: 5-2007 |
We could always try 4*2 then...? you could indeed, and you would have moved a little closer to the truth 2+2+2+2? and with this 4+4? but not with this | ||
| Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani Post Number: 329 Registered: 10-2006 |
4x2x1? A cube? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1140 Registered: 7-2009 |
four twos? | ||
| Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani Post Number: 332 Registered: 10-2006 |
Four couples of persons? Married couples? | ||
| Mani (Mani)
New member Username: Mani Post Number: 333 Registered: 10-2006 |
Four couples of persons? Married couples? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 708 Registered: 5-2007 |
4x2x1? no, but... A cube? no four twos? ...yesish, for svv of "two" - pursue this Four couples of persons? Married couples? no Four couples of persons? Married couples? still no, and I am afraid the answer will be the same if you ask the question once more. You are not a Bellman, and this is not a rulebreaker. | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 531 Registered: 6-2009 |
Four pairs, couples, pairs, twosomes, twains, bracess, spans, yokes, couples, distiches, duos, duet, dyads, duads, doubletons??? Am I OTRT? | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 540 Registered: 3-2004 |
Something that comes in pairs, like a pair of scissors? something with its shadow? mirror reflections? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 709 Registered: 5-2007 |
Four pairs, couples, pairs, twosomes, twains, bracess, this one, minus an "s" spans, yokes, couples, distiches, duos, duet, dyads, duads, doubletons??? Am I OTRT? very much so - now then... Something that comes in pairs, like a pair of scissors? something with its shadow? mirror reflections? no, but help is at hand - see above | ||
| Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
New member Username: Yojimbo Post Number: 74 Registered: 11-2009 |
any relevance to: curly braces {}? formatting? forum posts? deprecated html tags [<b>]? | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 544 Registered: 3-2004 |
I thought that braces "comes in pairs"... :-) Is it about the difficulty some people seem to have with puzzle titles? about having their names enclosed in []? and when they don't, moderators should fix that? (){}[]<> = eight? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 710 Registered: 5-2007 |
My apologies for neglecting this. any relevance to: curly braces {}? formatting? forum posts? deprecated html tags [<b>]? I am not quite sure what a deprecated html tag is - do people sit around pouring scorn on certain tags while praising others? At any rate, that last is close, but this is closer... Is it about the difficulty some people seem to have with puzzle titles? about having their names enclosed in []? and when they don't, moderators should fix that? yes, indeed (){}[]<> = eight? well, not quite. But close enough for a ***** SPOILER ***** The idea is that puzzle-setters should put their name in square brackets, then a space, then the title of the puzzle, as for example: [woubit] When the coster's finished jumping on his mother Although most setters have no difficulty with this at all, those that do irk me no end. Curly braces, slashes, stars, nothing whatsoever - all of these send me to the moderator's board muttering under my breath. Four is a square, and two is a brace, and eight is four times two - a "square brace" if you will. And I am a grumpy old man, but today I give thanks for the LTPF and promise (or threaten) to set the customary woubit Christmas puzzle when the next holiday comes around. | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2316 Registered: 1-2007 |
Oh dear, then I fear that I am one of those who annoy you frequently. In fact while setting a recent puzzle I put the title in the brackets and then my name. I noticed that a mod fixed it so apologies if that was you. Was it this incident that inspired the puzzle? As ever I am eagerly awaiting the woubit christmas puzzle. I look forward to several weeks of being completely stumped. | ||
| Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
New member Username: Yojimbo Post Number: 127 Registered: 11-2009 |
a deprecated html tag is one like <b> for bold text -- current standards frown upon presentational tags -- if the text is to be bold, for instance, the stylesheet is the place to code that... part of my work involves writing (and re-writing) html, so those old-school (deprecated) <b> and <i> tags irk me, slightly, since they make extra work -- while they put coin in my pockets. I've posted two puzzles so far (another coming), and think my track record's just fine with the brackets... I'll watch for it, though. nice puzzle. - Y | ||
| Gourami (Gourami)
Moderator Username: Gourami Post Number: 787 Registered: 10-2008 |
As a moderator, I always put my name in curly brackets. Sorry if it annoys you: I don't see how it makes a difference other than looking a bit fancier. |
