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Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 590 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 1:50 am: |      |
None of those involved knew exactly what they were doing. |
Pikachizzle (Pikachizzle)
New member Username: Pikachizzle
Post Number: 472 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 4:32 am: |      |
How many people involved? 1? 2? 3? 4? More than 4? Are they all H/A? If relevant, are they all M? Do they literally not know what they were doing? Were they confused? Would an average person be able to do this? Does what they're doing require any special skills or traits? |
Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte
Post Number: 649 Registered: 6-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 7:33 am: |      |
Were they volunteers? Did they get paid? "Those involved" Were there other people relevant? Era/Location/Profession relevant? War relevant? Were they doing physical work? Were they students? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 593 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 8:31 am: |      |
How many people involved? 1? 2? 3? 4? More than 4? More. Are they all H/A? Yes. If relevant, are they all M? Some M some F, relevant. Do they literally not know what they were doing? FA. Were they confused? No. Would an average person be able to do this? Some of it. Does what they're doing require any special skills or traits? Some of it. Were they volunteers? Some of them were. Did they get paid? Yes. "Those involved" Were there other people relevant? Yes, peripherally. Era/Location/Profession relevant? Era somewhat, profession. War relevant? No. Were they doing physical work? No. Were they students? No. |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 685 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 2:25 pm: |      |
LTPF puzzle solving relevant...? Title relevant? Is the FA that it's not present time (know), but knew? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 602 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 2:31 pm: |      |
LTPF puzzle solving relevant...? No, good idea though. Title relevant? Yes. Is the FA that it's not present time (know), but knew? No. |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 688 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 2:37 pm: |      |
Are "those involved" and "they" the same people? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 603 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 3:41 pm: |      |
Are "those involved" and "they" the same people? Yes. |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 692 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 9:02 pm: |      |
The FA on "Do they literally not know what they were doing" - is it that they could be said to know what they are doing? but no-one knows exactly everything? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 608 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 9:07 pm: |      |
The FA on "Do they literally not know what they were doing" - is it that they could be said to know what they are doing? but no-one knows exactly everything? Yes that is correct, and important. |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 693 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 9:24 pm: |      |
Was it intentional that no-one should know about everything? Someone thought it better if those involved only got need-to-know-based instructions? could it be bad for this "someone" if those involved got all the facts? Is it something like when planning a large money transport, the drivers don't know in advance which route to take, they can't themselves get to the money, other people don't know which time the transport will be...? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 609 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 11:59 pm: |      |
Was it intentional that no-one should know about everything? Yes. Someone thought it better if those involved only got need-to-know-based instructions? Yesish - need-to-know my not be the best way of putting it. could it be bad for this "someone" if those involved got all the facts? Yesish. Is it something like when planning a large money transport, the drivers don't know in advance which route to take, they can't themselves get to the money, other people don't know which time the transport will be...? No, I considered such a scenario also but this is something completely different. |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 695 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 12:24 am: |      |
Well, it's "Monty Python Jubilee" - so it should be time for "Something completely different"... Something illegal involved? The person who's intentions is for those involved not to know everything - is he/she involved in anything illegal? involved in preventing something illegal? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 610 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 12:30 am: |      |
Well, it's "Monty Python Jubilee" - so it should be time for "Something completely different"... Cool, I didn't know that. Something illegal involved? No. The person who's intentions is for those involved not to know everything - is he/she involved in anything illegal? involved in preventing something illegal? So no to these. |
Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp
Post Number: 697 Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 9:54 am: |      |
If people involved knew exactly what they were doing, what would happen? Would they demand more money for what they're doing? Would they make other demands? Would they do things in a different way? Would it be much easier for them doing "it"? Would they stop doing "it"? Would it affect "someone's" finances? Would it affect "someone's" reputation? Would it just be irritating? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 612 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 10:16 am: |      |
If people involved knew exactly what they were doing, what would happen? Would they demand more money for what they're doing? No. Would they make other demands? Irr. Would they do things in a different way? Probably. Would it be much easier for them doing "it"? No. Would they stop doing "it"? Yesish. Would it affect "someone's" finances? Probably. Would it affect "someone's" reputation? Yes. Would it just be irritating? To whom? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 2315 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 11:47 am: |      |
Is this a scenario like for example people working a laboratory developing something and while they know what they are doing during development they do not know what the end use will be? If they found out all the facts would any of them have any moral objections ? conscientious objections? to carrying out the work? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 616 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 12:16 pm: |      |
Is this a scenario like for example people working a laboratory developing something and while they know what they are doing during development they do not know what the end use will be? No, getting warmer though. If they found out all the facts would any of them have any moral objections ? conscientious objections? to carrying out the work? Probably not. |
Sugarshane (Sugarshane)
New member Username: Sugarshane
Post Number: 243 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 7:55 pm: |      |
is there an experiment going on? are they all in the same location at the same time? are their occupations relevant? do all of these people have something similar about them like a medical condition? or hobby? or something else that connects them? is technology relevant? are they doing whatever they are doing for entertainment? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 621 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 8:30 pm: |      |
is there an experiment going on? Yes. are they all in the same location at the same time? Yes. are their occupations relevant? For some of them. do all of these people have something similar about them like a medical condition? Some do have the same medical condition. or hobby? No. or something else that connects them? For some of them. is technology relevant? Not directly. are they doing whatever they are doing for entertainment? No. |
Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr
Post Number: 510 Registered: 5-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 9:43 pm: |      |
Is there a scientific experiment going on? In the field of medicine? Blinded studies relevant? Double-blind studies? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 623 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 11:18 pm: |      |
Is there a scientific experiment going on? In the field of medicine? Blinded studies relevant? Double-blind studies? That's it! *****SPOILER***** In a double-blind study, in this case of a new drug (FMOI), neither the patients nor the ones giving the treatment know if what is given is a placebo or the real thing. This gives better data by eliminating many kinds of bias. Thanks for playing (: |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 624 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 27, 2009 - 11:20 pm: |      |
Now if you'll give some love to my other puzzle above, I'll be happy (:</b> |