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Fleemco198 (Fleemco198)
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A man found some cash. 5 hours later he died.

this might be easy if you know a certain phrase
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An English phrase? Like a proverb?

Did he die as a result of finding the cash?

He= the man?

Would it work for 2 hours? 4? 6? 10?

Did he die from natural causes? Was his death a murder?
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Cash = money? Paper money? Coins?
Relevant what currency? Relevant what value?
Exactly 5 hours? Could it be 4 hours? 6 hours?
How did he die?
Murder?
Suicide?
Accidental Causes?
Fall?
Poisoning?
Drowning?
Burning?
Impact?
Radiation?

Are there any more people involved?
He = a man? HAM? Alive and breathing?
Location/Era/Profession/Age relevant?
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An English phrase?(-this, but not really part of the puzzle, just it might help Like a proverb?

Did he die as a result of finding the cash? indirectly

He= the man? YES

Would it work for 2 hours? 4? 6? 10? YES TO ALL

Did he die from natural causes?NO Was his death a murder?NO
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Cash = money?This Paper money? Coins? and this
Relevant what currency? Relevant what value?
Exactly 5 hours? Could it be 4 hours? 6 hours? see above

answer others later
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How did he die? that is part of the solution...sorry<:>
Murder?
Suicide?
Accidental Causes?
Fall?
Poisoning?
Drowning?
Burning?
Impact?
Radiation?
see above
Are there any more people involved? Himself
He = a man? HAM? Alive and breathing? yes till he dies
Locationyes/Era/Profession/Age relevant?no to the rest
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So our solution is to find out what killed him?

Physical Location? Political Location?
If political:
Asia?
South America?
Australia Continent (whatever it's called)
Europe?
Africa
North America?
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Does the phrase contain the words:
cash?
money?
die?
death?
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So our solution is to find out what killed him? part of it is you want the what and the why

Physical Location?(-this Political Location?
If political:
Asia?
South America?
Australia Continent (whatever it's called)
Europe?
Africa
North America?None above

Does the phrase contain the words:
cash?
money?
die?
death?
no to all
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Physical location:
Mountains?
Bodies of Water?
Forests?
Deserts?
Volcanoes?
Jungles?
Rainforests?
Other?

Is the above where he lives?
Where he found the money?
Relevant where he found the cash? Indoors? Outdoors?
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Physical location:
Mountains?
Bodies of Water?
Forests?
Deserts?
Volcanoes?
Jungles?
Rainforests?
Other? city

Is the above where he lives? Noish
Where he found the money? no
Relevant where he found the cash?NO
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Did the man actually obtain the cash?
Did he die in the process of trying to obtain the cash?
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Was the money physically impossible to pick up?
Was the money in water? Was it placed on a hard surface? (Like a floor) Was it in a container? Is it relevant how it got there? Did someone deliberately put it there? Did someone accidentally drop it there?
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Did the man actually obtain the cash? yes
Did he die in the process of trying to obtain the cash?no

Was the money physically impossible to pick up? no
Was the money in water? Was it placed on a hard surface?(-this (Like a floor) Was it in a container? Is it relevant how it got there? noDid someone deliberately put it there? Did someone accidentally drop it there?this
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Was the man on ice?
Was he on pavement?
Was he on a man-made floor?
Was he on dirt?
Was he inside a building?
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Was the man on ice?
Was he on pavement? yes
Was he on a man-made floor? yes
Was he on dirt?
Was he inside a building?irr.
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sorry no to others
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Did he die from impact with the pavement?
Was he in Las Vegas?
Chicago?
New York City?
Is the particular city relevant?
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Did he die from impact with the pavement? no
Was he in Las Vegas? irr.
Chicago? irr.
New York City? irr.
Is the particular city relevant?no
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Did he spend any of the cash before dying?
Did he gamble any of the cash?
Did he give any of the cash to any other person?
Did he use the physical cash for any purpose?
Was the cash legal tender in the place where it was found?
Was the cash likely to be more than a century old?
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Did he spend any of the cash before dying? no
Did he gamble any of the cash? no
Did he give any of the cash to any other person?no
Did he use the physical cash for any purpose? no
Was the cash legal tender in the place where it was found?yes
Was the cash likely to be more than a century old?no
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Did the man commit suicide?
Could this work with, "3 seconds later he was dead?"
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Did the man commit suicide? no
Could this work with, "3 seconds later he was dead?" yes
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Is it highly likely the man would have died if he had not found the cash?
Did he find the cash using the sense of sight?
Is this based on a real incident?
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Did the money burn a hole in his pocket?
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Was he killed by:
A person?
An object?
His surroundings?
By accident?
By himself?
Weight of the money relevant?
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Is it highly likely the man would have died if he had not found the cash? he would have been alive if he had not found the cash
Did he find the cash using the sense of sight? yes
Is this based on a real incident? it's possible. but i am unaware of this happening to a specific person.

Did the money burn a hole in his pocket?no

Was he killed by:
A person?
An object? (-this
His surroundings?
By accident? (-this
By himself?
Weight of the money relevant?no
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Was he hit by a car? A train? Another type of vehicle?
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Was he distracted by the cash? Did he die immediately after the accident? Or is the 6 hours time that elapsed between accident and death? Would it have worked with somehting other than money? Such as: Jewelry? Gemstones? Other valuables? Non-valuables, as long as he picked them up? Coin-shaped metal discs?
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Random theory: is this a situation in which the few seconds it took the man to pick up the cash altered his schedule for the rest of the day such that he was involved in an accident that would not have occurred if he had just continued walking?
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Was he hit by a car? A train? Another type of vehicle?none

Was he distracted by the cash? noDid he die immediately after the accident?yes Or is the 6 hours time that elapsed between accident and death?the accident caused an immediate death. Would it have worked with somehting other than money? Such as: Jewelry? Gemstones? Other valuables? Non-valuables, as long as he picked them up? Coin-shaped metal discs? no

Random theory: is this a situation in which the few seconds it took the man to pick up the cash altered his schedule for the rest of the day such that he was involved in an accident that would not have occurred if he had just continued walking?no remember it could take him more than just a few seconds to die. the original statement was 5 hrs.
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Was the accident a result of his desire to use the money? Give it away? Find the original owner? Give it to the police? If he had won the money, could the same thing have happened? If he had been given it? If it had been transferred to his account?
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Was the accident a result of his desire to use the money?no Give it away?no Find the original owner? noGive it to the police?no If he had won the money, could the same thing have happened?no If he had been given it?no If it had been transferred to his account?no
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Hint: it had to do with what coin specifically and placement of the coin.
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Wild guess - Did he put the coin in his pocket, forget about it, go for an MRI scan or something and the magnetized coin ripped through his heart and killed him? (Probably scientifically inaccurate but what the hell :-D)
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The coin: nickel? dime? guinea? penny? dollar? silver-dollar?
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Wild guess - Did he put the coin in his pocket, forget about it, go for an MRI scan or something and the magnetized coin ripped through his heart and killed him? (Probably scientifically inaccurate but what the hell :-D)very nice and creative theory but that is .....not close.

The coin: nickel? dime? guinea? penny? dollar? silver-dollar?penny
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Did he put it under his tongue?
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Was he walking on the pavement at the time he found the penny?
Was it only one penny?
Was the penny heads-up?
Was it tails-up?
Is it relevant which side was up?
Is the important phrase, "A penny saved is a penny earned?"
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Would he not have had the accident hadn't he found the coin? Or would he have had it but not have died? Did he have the coin on him at the time of the accident? If so, relevant where on his body? Did the coin contribute directly to his death?
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Vending machines relevant?
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Is a joke or pun of some sort involved? Zinc? Copper? British penny? American? Some other country?
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Did he put it under his tongue? no

Was he walking on the pavement at the time he found the penny? yes
Was it only one penny? yes
Was the penny heads-up? no
Was it tails-up? yes
Is it relevant which side was up?
Is the important phrase, "A penny saved is a penny earned?"no

Would he not have had the accident hadn't he found the coin?yes Or would he have had it but not have died?the accident would not have happend if he hadn't found the coin Did he have the coin on him at the time of the accident?irr. If so, relevant where on his body?irr. Did the coin contribute directly to his death?yesish

Vending machines relevant?no

Is a joke or pun of some sort involved?no Zinc? Copper? British penny? American?(-this Some other country?
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Is the superstition that tails-up pennies are bad luck relevant?
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Is the superstition that tails-up pennies are bad luck relevant?there we go now your onto something...(yes)
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Is he superstitious?
Did he freak out when he saw the coin?
Did he die from impact? By an object?
Did he want to die?
So this is what happened...
Man picks up coin tail-side up ... 5 hours passed ... he is involved in an accident and dies.
Is what he was doing in the five hours relevant?
Was he in the same place when he found the money and when he died? Did he have the money on him when he died? Was it in his pockets? Relevant where he put it? Did he spend it?
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Did he use it in a coin toss to decide something?
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Is he superstitious? yes
Did he freak out when he saw the coin? not immediatly
Did he die from impact?yes By an object? yes
Did he want to die? no
So this is what happened...
Man picks up coin tail-side up ... 5 hours passed ... he is involved in an accident and dies.
Is what he was doing in the five hours relevant? yesish
Was he in the same place when he found the money and when he died?no Did he have the money on him when he died?irr. Was it in his pockets?no Relevant where he put it?no Did he spend it?no

Did he use it in a coin toss to decide something?no
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Was he hit by a car while retrieving the money? Was it dangerous to retrieve the money? He is the only person relevant? Was he alone? Was anyone watching him? Is the general location (urban, rural, etc) relevant?
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Was he hit by a car while retrieving the money?no Was it dangerous to retrieve the money?for him yes He is the only person relevant?yes Was he alone?yes Was anyone watching him?no Is the general location (urban, rural, etc) relevant?uh...urban (that is city, right?)
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Poison relevant?
Gas relevant? Water? Another liquid? Drugs/Medicine?
Would it be dangerous for someone else to retrieve it?
Was something impaired physically that made it dangerous for him to retrieve the coin (like he had broken a bone or he was very weak)?
Could he not swim?
Did he try and get the money even though it was dangerous?
Did he know it was dangerous?
Could he have gotten injured?
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Poison relevant? no
Gas relevant? Water? Another liquid? Drugs/Medicine? all no
Would it be dangerous for someone else to retrieve it? if they had the same problem as he did. (he is supersititious, read up)
Was something impaired physically that made it dangerous for him to retrieve the coin (like he had broken a bone or he was very weak)? no, perfectly healthy
Could he not swim? he could swim
Did he try and get the money even though it was dangerous? he did not know the risk until after he picked up the coin and looked at it closely
Did he know it was dangerous?see above
Could he have gotten injured?he did sometime after he picked up the coin that's why he died
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Did he die because ha acted on his superstition? Did he get rid of the coin? If so, relevant how? If not, did he try? Did he do something else that was meant to mitigate bad luck? If so, is that was caused his death?
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Did he die because ha acted on his superstition?yes Did he get rid of the coin?irr. If so, relevant how? If not, did he try?yes Did he do something else that was meant to mitigate bad luck?yes If so, is that was caused his death?he got crushed
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Did he pick up the coin first and then try to mitigate his bad luck? Or did he try to mitigate his bad luck and then pick up the coin? If the latter, did he try to flip the coin heads up before he picked it up?
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Did he pick up the coin first and then try to mitigate his bad luck? (-this Or did he try to mitigate his bad luck and then pick up the coin? If the latter, did he try to flip the coin heads up before he picked it up?
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Did he try and destroy the coin? To burn it? To blow it up? Did he try to get rid of it? To drop it? To throw it? To swallow it...

Roads relevant? Motorways relevant?
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Railroads relevant? Was he hit by something? A train? Was something dropped on top of him?
A 16 ton weight? =)
Was he crushed by something which was meant for crushing stuff? Like a car crusher? Or garbage compactor? Was the crushing from high speed impact?
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Did he try and destroy the coin?no To burn it?no To blow it up? Did he try to get rid of it?(-this To drop it? To throw it? To swallow it...

Roads relevant? Motorways relevant?none relev.

Railroads relevant? Was he hit by something? A train? Was something dropped on top of him? (-this, but not dropped, it just fell on him
A 16 ton weight? =) lol, no
Was he crushed by something which was meant for crushing stuff? Like a car crusher? Or garbage compactor? Was the crushing from high speed impact?none
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Did the object that fell on him: fall over? Fall down? Was it a vehicle? Did he cause it to fall? Did he want it to fall?
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Did the object that fell on him: fall over? Fall down?(-this Was it a vehicle?no Did he cause it to fall?yes Did he want it to fall?no
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Is the object that fell on him bigger than: a marble? A coin? A football? A chair? A car? Bus? Airplane? Ship?
Was he killed primarily because: the weight of the object? The speed? Sharpness or similar?
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Is the object that fell on him bigger than: a marble? A coin? A football? A chair?(-bigger than this/smaller than this-) A car? Bus? Airplane? Ship?
Was he killed primarily because: the weight of the object?(-this
The speed? Sharpness or similar?
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Did he intend for the object to fall? Did it fall straight down? Did it fall: less than a meter? More than two? Five? Ten? Fifty? Was it him acting at his superstition that caused the object to fall? Rube Goldberg-like event relevant?
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Was the object made of...
Plastic? Metal? A liquid? Wood? Glass? A gas? Paper? Stone? Brick? Fabric?
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After picking up, he did something special, right? to mitigate the bad look he thought he could get from the coin? but this caused an object to fall? which killed him?
Was what he did directly causing the object to fall? or was it a chain-of-events?
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I meant "mitigate the bad luck"...
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Did he intend for the object to fall?no Did it fall straight down?yes Did it fall: less than a meter?no More than two?yes Five? Ten?this is about right Fifty? Was it him acting at his superstition that caused the object to fall?no Rube Goldberg-like event relevant?????

Was the object made of...
Plastic? Metal?(-this A liquid? Wood? Glass? A gas? Paper? Stone? Brick? Fabric?

After picking up, he did something special, right? to mitigate the bad look he thought he could get from the coin?right but this caused an object to fall? which killed him? no
Was what he did directly causing the object to fall? or was it a chain-of-events?nither
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Was he under the object when it started falling? Did it freefall? Did he see it? Try to get away? Final Destination-like improbable events relevant?
Was the object suspended? Was it being lifted/hoisted? Did this happen at a construction site? Is the object a weight? counterweight? Would it fall down like it did during normal use?
does this happen: inside? Outside? Underground?
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Was he under the object when it started falling?yes Did it freefall?explian Did he see it?once it was falling Try to get away?yes, but couldn't Final Destination-like improbable events relevant? no, this is a real life problem
Was the object suspended?no Was it being lifted/hoisted? noDid this happen at a construction site?no Is the object a weight?no counterweight?no Would it fall down like it did during normal use? yes
does this happen: inside? Outside?(-this Underground?
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So the object was *supposed* to fall down? but he wasn't supposed to be there?
Ladders relevant? spitting? cats?
Was the object supposed to fall down repeatedly? was it hanging in a chain or something?
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So the object was *supposed* to fall down?no but he wasn't supposed to be there? he could be there.
Ladders relevant?yes spitting? cats?
Was the object supposed to fall down repeatedly? was it hanging in a chain or something?niether
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Did someone climb up a ladder? did he avoid walking under a ladder?
You said that it would fall down like it did during normal use? but anyway wasn't supposed to fall?
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Did someone climb up a ladder?yes did he avoid walking under a ladder? no
You said that it would fall down like it did during normal use?yes but anyway wasn't supposed to fall?yes
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my bad i get it now*correction*
You said that it would fall down like it did during normal use?no, it should not have fallen down...
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Did it fall on him while he was climbing the ladder? Did the ladder itself fall? Was he climbing the ladder to: get somewhere? Get away from somewhere? Is he climbing up? Down?
If he hadn't found the coin, would he: not be there in the first place? Be there but not on the ladder? Or just not caused the object to fall?
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Or did someone else climb a ladder? and drop "it"?
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Did it fall on him while he was climbing the ladder?no Did the ladder itself fall?yes Was he climbing the ladder to: get somewhere?no Get away from somewhere?no Is he climbing up? Down? no
If he hadn't found the coin, would he: not be there in the first place? Be there but not on the ladder? Or just not caused the object to fall?(-this

Or did someone else climb a ladder? and drop "it"?niether
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Was he hit by the ladder? or something the falling ladder in turn got to fall?
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Was he hit by the ladder?yes or something the falling ladder in turn got to fall?no
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Did the hit by the ladder kill him?
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Did the hit by the ladder kill him?yes
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What's left? Why the ladder fell?
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What's left? Why the ladder fell?yes
then put it all together
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Did he cause the ladder to fall? someone else?
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Was the ladder: a normal ladder leaned against something? A vertical ladder fastened on something? A rope ladder? Stepladder?
Did the ladder: slip? Come loose? Fall over? Fall apart? Did he put the ladder there? Did he move it? Damage it?
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Is it relevant that walking under a ladder is considered bad luck?

Did the man think that a 2nd "bad luck" act would negate the first (2 wrongs make a right - type thing)? So he intentionally walked under the ladder?

Did the man do anything with the penny near the ladder? Under it?

There was a different man up on the ladder, right? Did the man up on the ladder do something which caused the ladder to fall?
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Did he cause the ladder to fall?yes someone else?no

Was the ladder: a normal ladder leaned against something? A vertical ladder fastened on something? A rope ladder? Stepladder? it is a ladder that has two sides and is held together by a flexible bar hinge in the middle...
Did the ladder: slip?noish Come loose?yesish Fall over?no. Fall apart?yes, but only a part of it did. Did he put the ladder there?no Did he move it?no Damage it?no

Is it relevant that walking under a ladder is considered bad luck? not really it was just suppose to be a hint that the penny had to do with superstition...

Did the man think that a 2nd "bad luck" act would negate the first (2 wrongs make a right - type thing)? So he intentionally walked under the ladder? no

Did the man do anything with the penny near the ladder?no Under it? no

There was a different man up on the ladder, right?yes but irr. Did the man up on the ladder do something which caused the ladder to fall?no
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So the man walked under a stepladder (that's the name of this type of ladder), the bar hinge fell apart and the ladder collapsed on top of him, killing him?
Did he cause the ladder to collapse there and then? Or did it collapse because of something he had done earlier? Was it his ladder?
If he hadn't found the penny: would he have avoided walking under the ladder? Or would he walk under it but not cause the collapse? Did he cause the collapse by trying to get away from under the ladder? By trying to avoid walking under it? Was the ladder unsafe and he simply bumped the wrong part at the wrong time causing it to collapse?
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So the man walked under a stepladder (that's the name of this type of ladder), the bar hinge fell apart and the ladder collapsed on top of him, killing him? this is correct
Did he cause the ladder to collapse there and then?yes Or did it collapse because of something he had done earlier? Was it his ladder? niether
If he hadn't found the penny: would he have avoided walking under the ladder?(-this Or would he walk under it but not cause the collapse? Did he cause the collapse by trying to get away from under the ladder? By trying to avoid walking under it?niether Was the ladder unsafe and he simply bumped the wrong part at the wrong time causing it to collapse?(-this

keep putting it together....
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Fine............
*******SPOILED***************
A superstitious man found a penny, but as he was of bad sight, he did not see that the penny was tails up until he had picked it up, therefore he tried to mitigate his luck, but nothing (that I could find) says that you can mitigate bad luck brought on by a penny. Some time had passed,and as he thought that he had mitigated his bad luck, he walked into a ladder, due to a factory defect, the bar hinge broke killing him.

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