| Author | Message | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1296 Registered: 7-2009 |
It took me a decade or so to learn that the news wasn't for the ruler. But then who was it for? | ||
| Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
New member Username: Yojimbo Post Number: 148 Registered: 11-2009 |
Christmas carols relevant? hymns? Other traditional/Christmas texts relevant? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 738 Registered: 5-2007 |
Anything to do with the Herald Angels? | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 894 Registered: 3-2004 |
Ruler: of a country? of a region? of a company? not a person at all, other meaning of the word? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 4216 Registered: 12-2000 |
I immediately thought of a 12 inch ruler that had to be changed to a metric one (just don't ask me how many centimetres there are in 12 inches). | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1297 Registered: 7-2009 |
Christmas carols relevant? yes hymns? no Other traditional/Christmas texts relevant? no Anything to do with the Herald Angels? no Ruler: of a country? this one of a region? of a company? not a person at all, other meaning of the word? I immediately thought of a 12 inch ruler that had to be changed to a metric one (just don't ask me how many centimetres there are in 12 inches).no | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 897 Registered: 3-2004 |
Is "the news" some part of the text in a Christmas carol? Did the ruler rule around the time Jesus lived? or recently? Did he rule in Europe? Middle East? North America? elsewhere? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1301 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is "the news" some part of the text in a Christmas carol? yes Did the ruler rule around the time Jesus lived? no or recently? noish Did he rule in Europe? noish Middle East? no North America? noish elsewhere? no | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 4221 Registered: 12-2000 |
Are the noish answers because the ruler is/was mythical? fictional? | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 903 Registered: 3-2004 |
Did he rule over Santaland? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1303 Registered: 7-2009 |
Are the noish answers because the ruler is/was mythical? fictional? not exactly either of these, but sort of along these lines Did he rule over Santaland? no | ||
| Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
New member Username: Yojimbo Post Number: 149 Registered: 11-2009 |
Good King Wenceslas relevant? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1305 Registered: 7-2009 |
Good King Wenceslas relevant? no | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 915 Registered: 3-2004 |
Did the ruler rule a country that doesn't exist now? but did then? a large country? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1312 Registered: 7-2009 |
Did the ruler rule a country that doesn't exist now? but did then? a large country? /b{no to all} | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 918 Registered: 3-2004 |
Has the ruler really existed? is he fictional? or is it uncertain? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1315 Registered: 7-2009 |
Has the ruler really existed? no. is he fictional? no or is it uncertain? no | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 761 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is ther ein fact no ruler at all, but you thought it was? Did you mishear some lyrics? Or misunderstand what they meant? A specific christmas carol relevant? | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 4248 Registered: 12-2000 |
Good thinking, Galfisk! "Peace on the earth, goodwill to men From heavens all gracious King!" Did you think that this was a message from the heavens to the all gracious King? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1329 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is ther ein fact no ruler at all, but you thought it was? right. There was a reason why I said "the ruler" rather than "a ruler" though Did you mishear some lyrics? yes (and mis-sing them wrong for years) Or misunderstand what they meant? no A specific christmas carol relevant? yes Good thinking, Galfisk! I agree =) "Peace on the earth, goodwill to men From heavens all gracious King!" not this one Did you think that this was a message from the heavens to the all gracious King? no. In the carol I'm thinking of, the news was definitely going to the "king," not from him | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 946 Registered: 3-2004 |
Did the carol not mention a king at all? but a word that rhymed on king? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 765 Registered: 9-2009 |
"Glory to the newborn King" relevant? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2367 Registered: 1-2007 |
The little drummer boy? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1330 Registered: 7-2009 |
Did the carol not mention a king at all? correct but a word that rhymed on king? yesish "Glory to the newborn King" relevant? The little drummer boy? no to both | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 949 Registered: 3-2004 |
Was it two or more words that sounded like two or more different words, one of which you thought was "king"? Or was it one word that sounded like two words, one of them "king"? similar to looking? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1333 Registered: 7-2009 |
Was it two or more words that sounded like two or more different words, one of which you thought was "king"? no Or was it one word that sounded like two words, one of them "king"? no similar to looking? so no | ||
| Tommyp (Tommyp)
New member Username: Tommyp Post Number: 950 Registered: 3-2004 |
Was it "king" you thought you heard? or another word for ruler? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1335 Registered: 7-2009 |
Was it "king" you thought you heard? yes or another word for ruler? no | ||
| Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
New member Username: Yojimbo Post Number: 156 Registered: 11-2009 |
"welkin ring" relevant? [a lyric from Hark! the Herald, I think...] | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1351 Registered: 7-2009 |
"welkin ring" relevant? [a lyric from Hark! the Herald, I think...] no. And Hark! the Herald is not relevant. | ||
| Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
New member Username: Yojimbo Post Number: 169 Registered: 11-2009 |
"good tidings we bring to you and your KING" -- ? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2374 Registered: 1-2007 |
OMG if Yojimbo is right and I'm aure that he is then I have just been cured of the same scrund. I never knew the line was "you and your kin" and have been singing this wrongly for nigh on 35 years. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1355 Registered: 7-2009 |
"good tidings we bring to you and your KING" -- ? yep, that's the one OMG if Yojimbo is right and I'm aure that he is then I have just been cured of the same scrund. I never knew the line was "you and your kin" and have been singing this wrongly for nigh on 35 years. =) ************SPOILER***************** For the better part of my childhood (and perhaps even into my teens), I thought that the line in "We Wish You a Merry Christmas" was "good tidings we bring to you and your king" rather than "kin." Which really isn't that embarrassing, because, after all, it's used in the song to rhyme with the word "bring," so why wouldn't it be "king"? However, what pushes it well into the embarrassing scrund category for me is how much time I can remember spending as a child trying to puzzle out what it meant (I think Nimue would call it an active scrund.) I can even recall stages of my "understanding" of who the king was. At first, I thought it was nice that someone was wishing my king and I a merry Christmas and all that. But at one point, it occurred to me that, living in the US as I do, I didn't actually have a king. This bothered me for a while, until I realized that most Christmas carol's were old, so they must come from England. So then, I thought for several years that it was customary in England to wander around and give each other news and such to pass on to the king. At some point in the mix, I even thought that the king must be Jesus, but then I was puzzled as to why anyone would be bringing good tidings about Christmas to Jesus, since he should already know about it, having been there at all. So, as you can see, I spent an awful lot of time dwelling on this one line from this one particular carol, when all I would have had to do to set myself straight was ask someone about it or even just read the lyrics. Oh well. Glad I could set you straight about it, Peter =) |
