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| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5005 Registered: 8-2001 |
When George learned the true meaning of the award he had won, the honor turned out to be much smaller than he expected. How come?? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 937 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was it still an honor? Was it the IgNobel prize? Some sort of consolation award? An award for being good at something trivial/bad/worthless? A joke award? Did he have a scrund about the award? Would anyone recieving the award feel that the honor was quite small? George=HAM? Was there an awards ceremony? Was that where he learned the true meaning of the award? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5006 Registered: 8-2001 |
Galfisk (Galfisk) New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 937 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Monday, December 21, 2009 - 7:48 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Was it still an honor? yesWas it the IgNobel prize? no Some sort of consolation award? no An award for being good at something trivial/bad/worthless? no A joke award? noish Did he have a scrund about the award? possiblyWould anyone recieving the award feel that the honor was quite small?some people would & some wouldn't George=HAM? yes Was there an awards ceremony? irrel Was that where he learned the true meaning of the award? ditto | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 951 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was it the award itself of less honor? Or did it have to do with the (organization? Person? Persons?) giving out the award? Did he mistake it for a different award? Was the award for: something he did? Something he owned? Something he was? Some record? An achievement? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5008 Registered: 8-2001 |
Galfisk (Galfisk) New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 951 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Monday, December 21, 2009 - 10:54 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Was it the award itself of less honor? no Or did it have to do with the (organization? yes Person? Persons?) giving out the award? Did he mistake it for a different award? yes Was the award for: something he did? yesish Something he owned? yesish Something he was? yesish Some record? no An achievement? yesish | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 959 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was the award a parody of another award? Or otherwise related to another award? Was it easy to mistake this award for a more prestigious one? Did he think the award was for something different than it was? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5009 Registered: 8-2001 |
Galfisk (Galfisk) New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 959 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 12:14 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Was the award a parody of another award? no Or otherwise related to another award? yesish Was it easy to mistake this award for a more prestigious one? yes Did he think the award was for something different than it was? yes | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 581 Registered: 5-2009 |
Is the award granted for being the best in something (like an Olympic gold medal)? Or just for being good in it (like a grandmaster title in chess)? For having done something well in a particular case (like a medal awarded to someone having saved another person's life)? Can only people living in a certain region get the award? People who belong to a certain organization? People of a certain age? Sex? Occupation? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5010 Registered: 8-2001 |
Markobr (Markobr) New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 581 Registered: 5-2009 Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 9:10 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the award granted for being the best in something (like an Olympic gold medal)? see next answer Or just for being good in it (like a grandmaster title in chess)? more like the former For having done something well in a particular case (like a medal awarded to someone having saved another person's life)? no Can only people living in a certain region get the award? irrel People who belong to a certain organization? no People of a certain age? see next answer but one Sex? noOccupation? yes | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 591 Registered: 5-2009 |
Relevant which occupation it is? If so: something you do to earn money? Or as part of an education? Is the award granted for being one of the best in something (like an Olympic medal in general)? Is there something you specifically do to win the award (like taking part in an Olympic competition)? Or do you get the award for something you mainly do for other reasons (like Is there a fixed maximum number of people who can get the award during a certain time?taking an exam and getting an award for being the best student)? Do you get the award for something you achieve in the field of sports? sciene? arts? business? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5011 Registered: 8-2001 |
Markobr (Markobr) New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 591 Registered: 5-2009 Posted on Wednesday, December 23, 2009 - 12:22 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Relevant which occupation it is? yesIf so: something you do to earn money? yes Or as part of an education? no Is the award granted for being one of the best in something (like an Olympic medal in general)? yes Is there something you specifically do to win the award (like taking part in an Olympic competition)? noOr do you get the award for something you mainly do for other reasons yes(like taking an exam and getting an award for being the best student)? noIs there a fixed maximum number of people who can get the award during a certain time?irrel Do you get the award for something you achieve in the field of sports? no sciene? no arts? no business? yes | ||
| Gourami (Gourami)
Moderator Username: Gourami Post Number: 822 Registered: 10-2008 |
Was George given an award for being the best at something, only to find that the competitors were very few in number? For example, it was for the best worker in his department, and there are only two people in the department? Or was he the only one eligible for the award? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5012 Registered: 8-2001 |
Gourami (Gourami) Moderator Username: Gourami Post Number: 822 Registered: 10-2008 Posted on Friday, December 25, 2009 - 2:46 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Was George given an award for being the best at something, only to find that the competitors were very few in number? noFor example, it was for the best worker in his department, and there are only two people in the department? no Or was he the only one eligible for the award? no | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5016 Registered: 8-2001 |
HINT: This solution is part of a very funny story. (That's not bragging--the story is not original with me.) | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 2059 Registered: 5-2003 |
Does the award have multiple classes (for example, Iron Cross, first or second class)? Are there several components to it (for example, the Nobel Prize is a medal that ALSO comes with a lump sum of money)? Was George a businessman? Was he engaged in sales? Promotion? Manufacturing? Leadership? Was he a trainee of some sort? Was he the only person to receive this award? If so, was it a singular award, or was it given to people before/after him? Did he receive it for his work as a businessman? Was it prestigious? Was it awarded at a ceremony? One with many people present? Did he think it was any of the above? And was wrong? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5022 Registered: 8-2001 |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo) New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 2059 Registered: 5-2003 Posted on Saturday, January 02, 2010 - 6:49 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does the award have multiple classes (for example, Iron Cross, first or second class)? no Are there several components to it (for example, the Nobel Prize is a medal that ALSO comes with a lump sum of money)? no Was George a businessman? yes Was he engaged in sales? irrelPromotion? irrelManufacturing? irrel Leadership? irrel Was he a trainee of some sort? no Was he the only person to receive this award? yes If so, was it a singular award, or was it given to people before/after him? the latter Did he receive it for his work as a businessman? yopeWas it prestigious? yopeWas it awarded at a ceremony? yes One with many people present? yes Did he think it was any of the above? yes, yes, yes And was wrong? yope | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 620 Registered: 5-2009 |
Did George receive the award for being very knowledgeable in a (his?) field of business? In some aspect of a (his?) field of business? For some kind of invention or innovation? For the size of his business? The amount of work he did? Did George somehow misunderstand the scope of the award? If so: geographically? age-related? Breadth of the award's field? Length of time (e.g. "Best X of the Year" vs. "Best X of the Century")? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5024 Registered: 8-2001 |
Markobr (Markobr) New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 620 Registered: 5-2009 Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2010 - 12:28 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did George receive the award for being very knowledgeable in a (his?) field of business? no In some aspect of a (his?) field of business? no For some kind of invention or innovation? no For the size of his business? noThe amount of work he did? no Did George somehow misunderstand the scope of the award? yesIf so: geographically? noage-related? no Breadth of the award's field? yesLength of time (e.g. "Best X of the Year" vs. "Best X of the Century")? no | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1032 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the award "Best X of something"? If so, did George misunderstand the scope of X? Of "something"? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5028 Registered: 8-2001 |
Galfisk (Galfisk) New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1032 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 11:02 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the award "Best X of something"? yesishIf so, did George misunderstand the scope of X? Of "something"? you could actually put it either way | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5033 Registered: 8-2001 |
HINT: Read the puzzle statement VERY carefully! | ||
| Markobr (Markobr)
New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 666 Registered: 5-2009 |
George = he(1) = he(2)? Does "meaning" refer to something else than the reason the award is given out for and the importance the award has? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5034 Registered: 8-2001 |
Markobr (Markobr) New member Username: Markobr Post Number: 666 Registered: 5-2009 Posted on Saturday, January 09, 2010 - 7:19 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) George = he(1) = he(2)? yes Does "meaning" refer to something else than the reason the award is given out for and the importance the award has? no | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1495 Registered: 7-2009 |
Does award = honor? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5036 Registered: 8-2001 |
Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1495 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Tuesday, January 12, 2010 - 7:59 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does award = honor? yes | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1127 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the award physically smaller? Like a statuette instead of a statue? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5041 Registered: 8-2001 |
Galfisk (Galfisk) New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1127 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Thursday, January 14, 2010 - 3:02 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the award physically smaller? noLike a statuette instead of a statue? no | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 2177 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did he think the award was for his business prowess when it was actually for something else (or vice versa)? Say, an award for philanthropy? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5052 Registered: 8-2001 |
Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo) New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 2177 Registered: 5-2003 Posted on Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 3:04 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did he think the award was for his business prowess when it was actually for something else (or vice versa)?no Say, an award for philanthropy? no | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 44 Registered: 1-2010 |
Did it take time for him to learn the true meaning? Did learning it involve destroying the award? Damaging it? Decreasing its value? Allowing more people to get the award? Selling the award? Changing its honor? Decreasing its size? Letting another person receive the award? Did the award hurt his reputation as a businessman? Did he hurt the award's reputation somehow? Would you say he deserved the award? Is this anything like O. Henry? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5060 Registered: 8-2001 |
Hominid (Hominid) New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 44 Registered: 1-2010 Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 2:34 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did it take time for him to learn the true meaning? yesDid learning it involve destroying the award? no Damaging it? noDecreasing its value? He thought so. Allowing more people to get the award? noSelling the award? noChanging its honor? He thought so.Decreasing its size? noLetting another person receive the award? noDid the award hurt his reputation as a businessman? noDid he hurt the award's reputation somehow? no Would you say he deserved the award? yesIs this anything like O. Henry? Well, it involves a surprise ending, but doesn't every lateral puzzle? | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 54 Registered: 1-2010 |
Was the part about learning the only part where we had to read the puzzle statement carefully? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5070 Registered: 8-2001 |
Hominid (Hominid) New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 54 Registered: 1-2010 Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 10:02 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Was the part about learning the only part where we had to read the puzzle statement carefully?no | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 60 Registered: 1-2010 |
Is the fact that you asked "how come??" relevant? Is the word "expected" relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5071 Registered: 8-2001 |
Hominid (Hominid) New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 60 Registered: 1-2010 Posted on Thursday, January 21, 2010 - 11:51 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is the fact that you asked "how come??" relevant? no Is the word "expected" relevant? no | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 67 Registered: 1-2010 |
Relevant part of the opening: When? George? learned? the? true? meaning? of? the? award? he? had? won,? the? honor? turned? out? to? be? much? smaller? than? he? expected.? How come??? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5074 Registered: 8-2001 |
Hominid (Hominid) New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 67 Registered: 1-2010 Posted on Friday, January 22, 2010 - 7:54 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Relevant part of the opening: When? George? learned? the? true? meaning? of? the? award? he? had? won,? the? honor? turned? out? to? be? much? smaller? than? he? expected.? How come??? The relevant part is 'smaller.' | ||
| Hominid (Hominid)
New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 95 Registered: 1-2010 |
Smaller: physically smaller? Emotionally? Shorter? Thinner? Smaller wingspan? Less important? Older? Newer? Less honour? (I don't live in the UK; I just like their spellings.) | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5078 Registered: 8-2001 |
Hominid (Hominid) New member Username: Hominid Post Number: 95 Registered: 1-2010 Posted on Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 12:47 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Smaller: physically smaller? See next answer but oneEmotionally? no Shorter? yesThinner? noSmaller wingspan? no Less important? no Older? noNewer? noLess honour? no(I don't live in the UK; I just like their spellings.) | ||
| Kdoc (Kdoc)
New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 955 Registered: 7-2001 |
by 'shorter' do you mean smaller in length? in height? or a smaller period of time? is the name of the award relevant? is it misleading? is the award actually given for being the least good at something? or the best at something which is not valued? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5079 Registered: 8-2001 |
Kdoc (Kdoc) New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 955 Registered: 7-2001 Posted on Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 10:14 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) by 'shorter' do you mean smaller in length? see next answer in height? yes or a smaller period of time? no is the name of the award relevant? yes is it misleading? yes is the award actually given for being the least good at something? no or the best at something which is not valued? no or maybe noish | ||
| Kdoc (Kdoc)
New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 958 Registered: 7-2001 |
does the name of the award imply the winner is tall? the award is tall? their achievements have 'reached the heights'..? is the award for something which others value but he doesn't? or something he values much less than the thing he thought it was for? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5082 Registered: 8-2001 |
Kdoc (Kdoc) New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 958 Registered: 7-2001 Posted on Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 10:40 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) does the name of the award imply the winner is tall? no the award is tall? no their achievements have 'reached the heights'..? no is the award for something which others value but he doesn't? yesishor something he values much less than the thing he thought it was for? yes | ||
| Kdoc (Kdoc)
New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 962 Registered: 7-2001 |
is the phrase 'small business' relevant? or 'small businessman'? was he given the award for being the best businessman who was small rather than the best owner of a small business? was the award for something like 'most successful small business'? and he considered his business to be bigger than that? was this award somehow a smaller version of a bigger award? should we be trying to identify the award he thought it was? is that a famous award? a business award? is the award he thought it was actually an award for something quite different? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 5089 Registered: 8-2001 |
Posted on Sunday, January 24, 2010 - 11:10 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) is the phrase 'small business' relevant? see next answer or 'small businessman'? yes was he given the award for being the best businessman who was small rather than the best owner of a small business? yes was the award for something like 'most successful small business'? noand he considered his business to be bigger than that? no was this award somehow a smaller version of a bigger award? no should we be trying to identify the award he thought it was? no is that a famous award? a business award? no is the award he thought it was actually an award for something quite different? yope **** SPOILER ************ INCREDIBLE HANNAH HAS NOW SOLVED THREE OF MY PUZZLES IN ONE EVENING!!!!!!! This puzzle comes from the American TV show "The Jeffersons," about a short (5'5") man who owns a very successful dry cleaning business. He's thrilled when he wins an award from the Small Businesmen's Association--until he learns that "Small Businessman" in this context means businessman under 5'6". I have a BIG NEW puzzle at the bottom of this page. |
