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Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Monday, December 21, 2009 - 11:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

They got rather more than expected.
Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
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Posted on Monday, December 21, 2009 - 11:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

[hope you have another puzzle ready, because I think I'm closing in on $poiling "Warning" ~~]
They - HAM? HAF? a mixture?
were they expecting something nice?
had they done something to deserve something nice?
did they acquire a surfeit of some pleasant thing, but the quantity made it seem grotesque?
location/era relevant?
number of "them" relevant?
Markobr (Markobr)
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Posted on Monday, December 21, 2009 - 11:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

They: HAM?

Did they get something physical? Energy? Information? Affection? Public interest? Money? Help? Recognition? Rights? As the result of a calculation?

Did they expect to get something that was good for them? Was what they finally got good for them?

Did they get what they got from the source they expected?
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 12:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

They - HAM? HAF? a mixture? H, A, mixture
were they expecting something nice? No.
had they done something to deserve something nice? No.
did they acquire a surfeit of some pleasant thing, but the quantity made it seem grotesque? No.
location/era relevant? Yes.
number of "them" relevant? Millions indirectly invovled, thousands or tens of thousands directly involved, and hundreds directly responsible.
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 12:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

They: HAM? H, A, mixed.

Did they get something physical? No. Energy? This. Information? Affection? Public interest? Money? Help? Recognition? Rights? As the result of a calculation? Calculations were invovled.

Did they expect to get something that was good for them? Yope. Was what they finally got good for them? No.

Did they get what they got from the source they expected? Yes.
Biograd (Biograd)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 5:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it more than they expected? or more than someone else expected them to get?

Energy from: burning some type of fuel? wind power? water power? nuclear power?

When you say they got more energy, and what they got was not good for them, are you saying that the excess energy harmed them in some way? Was a previously controlled or "tamed" source of energy unleashed to the point where it caused damage?
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 8:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it more than they expected? <b>Yes.</i> or more than someone else expected them to get? Nobody expected them to get this much.

Energy from: burning some type of fuel? wind power? water power? nuclear power? This.

When you say they got more energy, and what they got was not good for them, are you saying that the excess energy harmed them in some way? Yes - those directly involved were harmed. Was a previously controlled or "tamed" source of energy unleashed to the point where it caused damage? Yope.
Tommyp (Tommyp)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 10:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Early experiments with radio-active substances relevant?
Did this happen in the 19th century? 20th?
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 10:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Early No/noish. experiments One experiment. with radio-active substances These are invovled. relevant? Yes.
Did this happen in the 19th century? 20th? 19th.
Tommyp (Tommyp)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 11:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

What do you mean, 19th century not early when experimenting with radio-activity, discovered 1896...? You probably mean that those conducting the experiment didn't have a clue about radio-activity? and didn't know radio-active substances were involved in the experiment? and because of this expected much less energy than they got?
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 11:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Oh, I'm too tired...***BLOOPER***, it's the 20th century.
Markobr (Markobr)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 4:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

An experiment with nuclear fission? fusion? For military purposes? Civil ones? Both? Is a nuclear reactor involved? Nuclear weapons? Disposal of radioactive waste relevant?
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 4:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

An experiment with nuclear fission? fusion? This. For military purposes? And this. Civil ones? Both? Is a nuclear reactor involved? Nuclear weapons? Also this. Disposal of radioactive waste relevant?
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Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 6:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they test a hydrogen bomb? And find out the resulting explosion was stronger than expected?

Where those directly involved soldiers? Did some of them die as a result of the experiment? If so, immediately?

Was the experiment mostly planned by US-Americans? Soviets? Other Europeans?
Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 6:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Manhattan Project relevant?
had the experimenters made false assumptions about their material? were they unaware of the potential of the radiation?
was it a bomb test?
carelessness involved?
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 7:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they test a hydrogen bomb? Yes. And find out the resulting explosion was stronger than expected? Indeed.

Where those directly involved soldiers? Not sure if they were called soldiers. They were the military people and scientists responsible for the test. Did some of them die as a result of the experiment? If so, immediately? They didn't die.

Was the experiment mostly planned by US-Americans? This. Soviets? Other Europeans?

I'm going for Christmas vacation soon. The puzzle is ready for $poilage, if you an guess which atomic bomb test this was. Or you may ask more questions if you want. I will post the $spoiler wednesday evening (CET).
Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 7:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bikini Atoll relevant?
Castle Bravo test relevant?
unanticipated yield relevant?
Galfisk (Galfisk)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 9:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Bikini Atoll relevant?
Castle Bravo test relevant?
unanticipated yield relevant?
***SPOILER***

Yes indeed!
The yield from the Castle Bravo nuclear test was about 3 times as high as expected. An unanticipated nuclear reaction meant that material in the bomb which was supposed to be inert (lithium-7) instead produced additional fusion fuel (tritium) as well as neutrons that boosted the third fission stage of the bomb.
Buildings and scientific instruments were destroyed, and the test produced significant nuclear fallout.

Vacation time, I'll be back with more puzzles in 2010. A merry christmas and a happy new year to everyone at LTPF!
Markobr (Markobr)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 9:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Thank you, and merry Christmas and a happy New Year to you, too!
Yojimbo (Yojimbo)
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Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 11:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nice puzzle; thanks. Have nice holidays -- I'm currently jubilant about the recent solstice.
I'll look forward to more puzzles in the new year. ~Y

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