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Kaygee (Kaygee)
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Posted on Thursday, December 24, 2009 - 4:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

With apologies (or thanks?) to Galfisk, his puzzle statement came to mind while discussing a totally different subject this week. (In other words, the answer is NOT PostIt Notes!!) Have fun!


Is it bad? Good!
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Nice one. I like "parallel" puzzles.

Let me begin with the [LTPF list of bad and good] I deployed with Galfisk's puzzle:

BAD:
morally unsound? wicked? evil?
poor? inferior? defective? deficient?
inadequate? sub-par? unsatisfactory?
inaccurate? incorrect? faulty?
invalid? unsound? false?
harmful? dangerous? injurious?
ill? sick?
diseased? unhealthy?
rotten? fermented? rancid? sour? spoiled?

GOOD:
virtuous? righteous? pious?
satisfactory? sufficient?
moral? morally correct/sound?
safe? well-behaved? well-mannered? pleasant?
reliable? dependable? healthful?
beneficial? benevolent? benign?
ample? advantageous?
conformist? socially proper?
tasty? delicious? savory?

location/era relevant?
any relevant HAMs or HAFs?
"it" - an object? a concept?
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Posted on Thursday, December 24, 2009 - 8:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BAD:
morally unsound? wicked? evil?
poor? inferior? defective? deficient?
inadequate? sub-par? unsatisfactory?
inaccurate? incorrect? faulty?
invalid? unsound? false?
harmful? dangerous? injurious?
ill? sick?
diseased? unhealthy?
rotten? fermented? rancid? sour? spoiled? yope on the last word only.

GOOD:
virtuous? righteous? pious?
satisfactory? sufficient?
moral? morally correct/sound?
safe? well-behaved? well-mannered? pleasant?
reliable? dependable? healthful?
beneficial? benevolent? benign?
ample? advantageous?
conformist? socially proper?
tasty? yes, indeed. This may go fast! delicious? savory?

location/era relevant? No
any relevant HAMs or HAFs? No
"it" - an object? this a concept?
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is a "fermented" food product relevant?
alcohol? beer? wine? spirits?
cheese? sourdough bread?
pickled fruit or vegetables relevant?
kimchi relevant?
aged foods relevant?
[...and... merry christmas to you.]
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oh, and one other thing:
"Game" in the puzzle title: does that refer to game animals? wild meat?
"Waiting Game" - anything to do with hanging venison or other wild carcass?
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[whoops - almost like double-posting (at which I'm highly skilled, better than most...]
another thing: hoping for a food to rot so one doesn't have to eat it -- is that relevant?
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is a "fermented" food product relevant?
alcohol? beer? wine? spirits?
cheese? sourdough bread?
pickled fruit or vegetables relevant?
kimchi relevant? No to all above.
aged foods relevant? No with a tiny -ish!
[...and... merry christmas to you.]A very Merry Christmas Yojimbo!

"Game" in the puzzle title: does that refer to game animals? wild meat? No
"Waiting Game" - anything to do with hanging venison or other wild carcass? No
another thing: hoping for a food to rot so one doesn't have to eat it -- is that relevant? No, but...
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Waiting for food to taste better, but not necessarily aging it? Letting it "breathe" as one would do with wine?
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okay - what about waiting for a food to rot so one can eat it?
Poi relevant?
waiting for a food to rot so one can give it to an adversary?
and... it's just now Christmas where I am, here on the west coast. nice.
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Jenburdoo
Waiting for food to taste better, but not necessarily aging it? Yes-ish Letting it "breathe" as one would do with wine? No-ish

Yojimbo
okay - what about waiting for a food to rot so one can eat it? Ick! No.
Poi relevant? Again, ick!
waiting for a food to rot so one can give it to an adversary? No.
and... it's just now Christmas where I am, here on the west coast. nice. You stayed up late last night. Did you say "hey" to Santa for us?
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Anything to do with cheese? or other dairy product?
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Merry Christmas woubit!
Anything to do with cheese? or other dairy product? No.
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Is this routinely done with one type of food? Is it routinely done with several types of food? Does this puzzle describe the invention of a food? Of a process? Of a tool? Does it describe a one-time occurance?

Is food left out in the open? Left stored in some way? Left refrigerated? If so, was this act intentional? Accidental? Does the food taste better when aged, but not $poiled?
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Merry Christmas Gourami!
Is this routinely done with one type of food? Actually, I can think of a couple of other examples - so...no. Is it routinely done with several types of food? and yes. Does this puzzle describe the invention of a food? Of a process? Of a tool? Does it describe a one-time occurance? No. Though an svv of "process" deserves a "no-ish.

Is food left out in the open? Yes. Left stored in some way? This also. Left refrigerated? No. If so, was this act intentional? Yes. Accidental? Does the food taste better when aged, but not $poiled? YES - at least to some.
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shark meat relevant? Iceland?
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aged meat relevant?
or - is it principally a meat product?
or principally a vegetable product?
a baked good?
fruitcake relevant?
is the food processed, or relatively whole? (as in Spam::filet mignon; ditto pesto::basil)
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Merry Christmas Tommyp!
shark meat relevant? Iceland? No.

Yojimbo!
aged meat relevant? No
or - is it principally a meat product? No.
or principally a vegetable product? Hmm...svv of vegetable? Yes.
a baked good? No
fruitcake relevant? No
is the food processed,Yes or relatively whole? No(as in Spam::filet mignon; ditto pesto::basil)
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Merry Christmas!

"svv of vegetable" - not really just vegetables? milk involved? eggs? Chinese Century Eggs/Thousand-Year-Old Eggs?
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"svv of vegetable" - not really just vegetables? No. Emphasis on the "vague" part of svv!

milk involved? eggs? Chinese Century Eggs/Thousand-Year-Old Eggs? No to rest.
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is this customarily served/eaten as an entree? as a side-dish? as an amuse? an hors d'oeuvre? as a dessert? a condiment? a delicacy (such as caviar, specks of truffle...)? as a beverage?
Veg-a-mite relevant? (OMG)(won't fit in any of the above categories, I don't think.)
is it sweet? or savory?
delicate? full-flavored? (sounds like the latter...)
is it an ethnic specialty?
did it arise during the industrial improvements to modern life of the 1950s?
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is this customarily served/eaten as an entree? as a side-dish? as an amuse? an hors d'oeuvre? as a dessert? possibly a condiment? a delicacy (such as caviar, specks of truffle...)? as a beverage? No to rest.
Veg-a-mite relevant? (OMG)(won't fit in any of the above categories, I don't think.) That's a true statement - but not relevant!
is it sweet? yes or savory?
delicate? full-flavored? (sounds like the latter...)Hmmm...how about this: Delicate at first and then full-bodied after a period of time. (And she begins giggling at the play on words!)
is it an ethnic specialty? No
did it arise during the industrial improvements to modern life of the 1950s? Well - had to look that one up! And YES - This food was introduced in the 1950's (who'da guessed?)
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"Delicate at first and then full-bodied after a period of time. (And she begins giggling at the play on words!)"
let's go with that - does "full-bodied" refer to it having increased in size after a time, like bread rising?
is it eaten as a snack, all by itself?
is this something you like?
would I like it? [I generally like weird stuff...]
are there multiple brands of the stuff (like Pepsi, Coke are colas...)?
is it a solid? is it soft? smooth?
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let's go with that - does "full-bodied" refer to it having increased in size after a time, like bread rising? No.
is it eaten as a snack, all by itself? yes
is this something you like? I do!
would I like it? [I generally like weird stuff...] Maybe, maybe not. It's not all that weird...
are there multiple brands of the stuff (like Pepsi, Coke are colas...)? No, not really.
is it a solid? Yes is it soft? Yes smooth? No.
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is it packaged in a jar? in a wrapper? in a box?
let's find out the color: may I invoke the [LTPF simple color wheel, with earth tones]? [I'd invoke a Crayola 16-color box, but don't think it's sufficiently universal...]
would a typical TV watcher (of reasonable age) have seen an ad, and maybe remember a catchy jingle?
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some more -
Is it known by its brand name (e.g., "Band-Aid")? or by a generic name (e.g., adhesive bandage)?
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is it packaged in a jar? in a wrapper? in a box? This.
let's find out the color: may I invoke the [LTPF simple color wheel, with earth tones]? [I'd invoke a Crayola 16-color box, but don't think it's sufficiently universal...] yellow, blue, pink, purple, brown, white, red, etc. See, the Crayola box would have worked ;-)
would a typical TV watcher (of reasonable age) have seen an ad, and maybe remember a catchy jingle? I don't think so...
Is it known by its brand name (e.g., "Band-Aid")? Yes or by a generic name (e.g., adhesive bandage)? Yes
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Oops...it is relevant that the box has a wrapper, too.
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Some type of candy? chocolates? cookies?
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is it in a bite-size form?
taffy relevant?
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Merry Christmas, Biograd
Some type of candy? Yes chocolates? No. cookies? No.

Yojimbo
is it in a bite-size form?
taffy relevant? No to both.
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Peeps relevant?
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Peeps relevant? Yes. Good job, Yojimbo! You are almost there.
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Is it stale and crunchy? This is considered a good attribute in peeps by some.
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How long do you have to age Peeps to get them to achieve the relevant effect?
Hours? a day? a few days? a week? a few weeks? a month? a few months? several months? a year? a few years? several years?
I'm willing to guess it's months; perhaps a year... or two...?
(I have a cheddar that's 22YO, so aged Peeps are plausible)
I also imagine that in mere weeks, if not perhaps requisite months, that Peeps must dry out -- although they seem bomb-shelter stable, don't they? -- in which case you must end up with something like a classic, French langue du chat, or a ladyfinger. Nice for dunking in coffee, I imagine -- although the color might take some getting used to.

to sum up:
does "is it bad" refer to leaving Peeps out for an extended period, until they become delightfully desiccated?
Does "Good!" refer to the pleasure that some -- you, for instance -- take in the result of this delightful aging period?
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and... does one take the wrapper off the box? superfluous detail? do they get dusty?
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Is it stale and crunchy? This is considered a good attribute in peeps by some. Yes indeed!

Spoiler.......................

When everyone else thinks that the Peeps are bad or stale - some of us are still waiting a few more days so that they are good and tasty!!!

When it comes to marshmallow Peeps, there are three kinds of people: 1. Those who hate them/won't eat them. 2. Those who will eat them but only when they are soft and fresh. And finally, there is a select few that prefer to leave the package open for a week or more until the marshmallow has hardened. I fall into the third category.

Everyone at my workplace knows that I love Peeps. So I often get them as gifts. (Especially when they are on sale after the holiday!) The first thing I do is punch several holes in the plastic wrapper and then toss it into my desk drawer. After a week (or so), I'll start poking at it to see if they are ready to eat yet.
After all these years, I've got the process down to an exact science. And, interestingly, I know which category each of my co-workers falls into - 'cause they tell me about it every time they see Peeps on my desk (or disappearing into my mouth!)

Thanks, all!
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Sorry Yojimbo...I was typing at the same time and didn't see your posts.
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Oops and I forgot to say:
Merry Christmas, Jenburdoo!
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No worries, Kaygee~~
Really great, fun puzzle. No doubt Galfisk would be honored; yellow was somehow relevant, just as it was in his. Top notch, and a great diversion!
Somehow, today, the LTPF came up around the festive table; perhaps advent calendars, woubit’s puzzle…? The interest wasn’t universal, at first – some rolled eyes, I imagine, at Dad’s weird obsessions, or what have you.
At any rate, to explain the LTPF, I used this puzzle as an example, and it became a topic; later, there were queries about whether a post had been answered, suggestions were made… (and had I feared the forum would be dormant, but saw that some were on there bright and early Christmas morn, while Santa was still just crossing the Atlantic).
My son, in fact, threw out the Peeps mention, when he got home from the cinema (we’re privileged, and see it for free in my little town). Don’t know that I would have gotten there so soon.
Kaygee, thanks for providing such fine entertainment for me and my family on a fine day! Best regards and warm wishes – on behalf of my little family, as well. ~Y
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Wow! That's impressive. I am glad that this little puzzle served as a unifying conversation piece for your family. That doesn't happen in all families - you have a great family!

I, too, have mentioned this website to several co-workers and get the same reactions. Not everyone embraces the concept of online friendships - or, apparently, excercising one's brain!

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