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The following is inspired by Galfisk's "Disaster" puzzles:

The fear of God resulted in a refusal and an explosion.
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Real physical explosion? Driven by: fire/chemical reaction? Pressure? Did someone die? Christianity involved? Relevant when this happened? Where? Was it during the industrial revolution? Did someone make a mistake? Did the refusal lead to the explosion?
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Real physical explosion? Yes. Driven by: fire/chemical reaction? Yes. Pressure? No. Did someone die? Yes. Christianity involved? Yes. Relevant when this happened? Yes. Where? Not really. Was it during the industrial revolution? No. Did someone make a mistake? Yes. Did the refusal lead to the explosion? Not directly.
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Christianity:

Catholic? Oriental Orthodox? Eastern Orthodox? Anglican? Lutheran? Reformed? Presbyterian? Congregational? Anabaptist? Brethren? Methodist? Pietist/Holiness? Baptist? Apostolic? Pentecostal? Charismatic? African-initiated? United/Uniting? Quaker? Stone-Campbell? Southcottites? Millerites/similar? Mormon? Unitarian? Oneness? Something else?
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Was the fear of God that of a single individual? That of a group? That of an entire people? Did they have it as a result of their upbringing/culture? Did the fear stem from a certain incident?

Did this take place B.C.? In an ancient empire? In the Medieval period? During the Renaissance? In the 1800s? 1900s? Around the present day?
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Christianity:

Catholic? This. Oriental Orthodox? Eastern Orthodox? Anglican? Lutheran? Reformed? Presbyterian? Congregational? Anabaptist? Brethren? Methodist? Pietist/Holiness? Baptist? Apostolic? Pentecostal? Charismatic? African-initiated? United/Uniting? Quaker? Stone-Campbell? Southcottites? Millerites/similar? Mormon? Unitarian? Oneness? Something else?

Was the fear of God that of a single individual? That of a group? This. That of an entire people? Did they have it as a result of their upbringing/culture? Yes. Did the fear stem from a certain incident? No, FA.

Did this take place B.C.? In an ancient empire? In the Medieval period? During the Renaissance? This. In the 1800s? 1900s? Around the present day?
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This is a true event?
Was the group of people that feared god the catholics?
Did one particular person cause the explosion?
a group?
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This is a true event? Yes.
Was the group of people that feared god the catholics? Yes.
Did one particular person cause the explosion? No.
a group? Yesish, indirectly.
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Did the catholics cause the explosion?
was the explosion set off purposely?

was the refusal before the explosion?
did at least a day pass in between the two?
a week?
a month?
a year?
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Was this in Europe? Is the Age of Exploration relevant? The Protestant Reformation? Is the Renaissance itself relevant? Is this a true story? Could it happen today?
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Did the catholics cause the explosion? No.
was the explosion set off purposely? No.

was the refusal before the explosion? Yes.
did at least a day pass in between the two?
a week?
a month?
a year? Exact time period irrelevant.

Was this in Europe? Yes. Is the Age of Exploration relevant? The Protestant Reformation? Is the Renaissance itself relevant? No. This occurred in the mid-1700s. Is this a true story? Yes. Could it happen today? In theory, yes.
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Was the enlightenment relevant? Was this in [list of years in the mid-1700s]? Was a church exploded? Is it especially relevant that they were Catholic?
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Was the enlightenment relevant? Yes. Was this in [list of years in the mid-1700s]? 1769. Was a church exploded? Yes. Is it especially relevant that they were Catholic? No.
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Did the refusal have to do with the church (the building)? With a certain religious teaching or practice? With whatever set off the explosion? Did they refuse to remove something from the church?
Does this story deal with a group that wants to innovate and one that wants to stay the same?
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Did the refusal have to do with the church (the building)? Yes. With a certain religious teaching or practice? Yesish. With whatever set off the explosion? Yes. Did they refuse to remove something from the church? No.
Does this story deal with a group that wants to innovate and one that wants to stay the same? Yes.
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Did one group want to change something inside the church? Did the innovative group get its way? The conservative one?
Did something in the church catch fire? Are animals involved? Glass? Papers or books? Powdered chemicals? Gunfire?
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Did one group want to change something inside the church? No. Did the innovative group get its way? The conservative one? This.
Did something in the church catch fire? No. Are animals involved? No. Glass? No. Papers or books? No. Powdered chemicals? Yes. Gunfire? No.
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Is scientific experimentation relevant? Chimneys? Was something placed on the outside of the church? On the door? In the churchyard? Is a graveyard relevant?
Is the conservative group clergy? Other workers in the church? The parishioners? Townspeople?
Is the innovative group clergy? Other workers in the church? The parishioners? Townspeople?
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Is scientific experimentation relevant? No. Chimneys? No. Was something placed on the outside of the church? On the door? In the churchyard? Is a graveyard relevant? None of these.
Is the conservative group clergy? This. Other workers in the church? The parishioners? Townspeople?
Is the innovative group clergy? Other workers in the church? The parishioners? Townspeople? Irrelevant.
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Blooper:

Is scientific experimentation relevant? Yesish.
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Was the explosion of: gas? Dust? Vapor/droplets? Solid chemicals? A mixture of chemicals? Like gunpowder? A high explosive?
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Was the explosion of: gas? Dust? Vapor/droplets? Solid chemicals? A mixture of chemicals? Like gunpowder? This. A high explosive?
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So it's something like gunpowder, but not gunpowder. Is the powder intended to explode? Is flour involved? Is the powder lit on fire? Or is a spark introduced? Does it touch a liquid?

Was an experiment involved, but it wasn't particularly scientific? A religious proof? A social experiment? A thought experiment? A casual hypothesis being tested? Something mathematical?
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So it's something like gunpowder, but not gunpowder. No, it is gunpowder Is the powder intended to explode? Yep. Is flour involved? Is the powder lit on fire? Or is a spark introduced? This. Does it touch a liquid? No.

Was an experiment involved, but it wasn't particularly scientific? A religious proof? A social experiment? A thought experiment? A casual hypothesis being tested? Something mathematical? The experiment was quite scientific, and led to something relevant.
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Was anyone injured by the explosion? Killed? If so, was it intentional? Did the explosion destroy something relevant?
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Was anyone injured by the explosion? Killed? Yes to both. If so, was it intentional? No. Did the explosion destroy something relevant? Yes.
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Hint: Something was not done because it was believed to be against God's will.
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Did the clergy refuse to do the experiment? refuse to allow someone else to do the experiment? ignore the results of the experiment, though it was performed?

Was the purpose of the experiment to test the safety of gunpowder under certain conditions within the church? and would have revealed the explosion danger, had it been performed? or did something done during the experiment set off the gunpowder?
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Did the clergy refuse to do the experiment? refuse to allow someone else to do the experiment? ignore the results of the experiment, though it was performed? This.

Was the purpose of the experiment to test the safety of gunpowder under certain conditions within the church? No. and would have revealed the explosion danger, had it been performed? The explosion danger was known. or did something done during the experiment set off the gunpowder? No. The experiment did not take place there.
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Hint: The experiment in question is famous.
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Did the experiment itself involve gunpowder? Did it lead to a safer way to handle gunpowder? Or store it? If the clergy had taken heed of the experiment, the explosion would not have happened, correct?

Is gravity relevant? The laws of physics? Theories about the solar system?
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Did the experiment itself involve gunpowder? No. Did it lead to a safer way to handle gunpowder? No. Or store it? Noish. If the clergy had taken heed of the experiment, the explosion would not have happened, correct? Yes.

Is gravity relevant? No. The laws of physics? Yes. Theories about the solar system? No.
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Hint: The experiment led to a relevant invention.
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Is fire invovled in the experiment? Or the invention? Is the invention still in use today? Did the experiment show that there was a risk the gunpowder would ignite? Was the gunpowder ignited by: friction? Heat? Sparks? Radiation? Did a piece of glass focus the rays of the sun onto the gunpowder? Or onto something else that caught fire?
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Or if not a piece of glass, were the sun's rays focused by a reflective surface?
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Is fire invovled in the experiment? No. Or the invention? No. Is the invention still in use today? Yes. Did the experiment show that there was a risk the gunpowder would ignite? The experiment did not involve gunpowder. Was the gunpowder ignited by: friction? Heat? Sparks? This is closest. Radiation? Did a piece of glass focus the rays of the sun onto the gunpowder? No. Or onto something else that caught fire? No. Or if not a piece of glass, were the sun's rays focused by a reflective surface? No.
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Hint: The experiment, and the disaster, both involve electricity.
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Is lightning relevant? Possibly the relevant experiment is the one in which Benjamin Franklin flew a kite in a lightning storm? and the invention is a lightning rod?

Maybe the church refused to install a lightning rod, since if all weather was an act of God, surely He would avoid striking a church build to worship Him? So then, when the church was struck by lightning, it caused the gunpowder to explode?
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Is lightning relevant? Possibly the relevant experiment is the one in which Benjamin Franklin flew a kite in a lightning storm? and the invention is a lightning rod?

Maybe the church refused to install a lightning rod, since if all weather was an act of God, surely He would avoid striking a church build to worship Him? So then, when the church was struck by lightning, it caused the gunpowder to explode?

You got it.

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Churches in Europe at first refused to use lightning rods, despite the fact that one of the most dangerous religious occupations at the time was bell-ringer (On average, a dozen were killed each year when their steeples were struck). Until in 1769, in Brescia, Italy, the Venetians stored their gunpowder in the church of San Nazaro. Lightning struck the church and detonated the gunpowder, killing three thousand people and leveling a sixth of the city.

Thus, the refusal to raise a lightning rod, occasioned by the fear of God, enabled a disastrous explosion.

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