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Peter365 (Peter365)
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Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2010 - 11:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It's taken me ages to pluck up the courage to post this potentially embarassing puzzle. As you can see it's not exactly Mills & Boon

He rumbled into the kitchen and found her sitting at the old table in her nightgown sipping slowly from a cup of steaming coffee.

He stode to the window, looked out and after some time muttered “Gosh those trees are really bending in the breeze out there. It’s like a hurricane . Thank god you were here last night to get me out of that awful weather.”
“Don’t mention it again it’s ok” she eased, all this time supping her coffee with relish.

He, still peering through the nearly clean pane ventured “God I wish I hadn’t drank so much wine last night, I feel like Keith after a party!”.
“Well if hadn’t been for you I’d have been wrapped up in my turquoise bedding very early last night.” she said with a just a touch of rebuke.

He grunted, scratched and bitched “I’m hungover and I feel old “
“Well nobody stays youthful forever” she paused and with a hint of mischief added “I guess things aren’t like they used to be.”
“Typical female “ he retorted acting all offended but to his credit saying it with a deal of humour and a hint of a smile.

He turned to look outside again and saw barns and outhouses with roofs and doors blown off . “Margaret love” he said without turning round “ have you looked out here, everything is destroyed”
“I’m afraid to look “ she said , her voice becoming heavy.
“Goddamit the only living thing I see out there is a scrawny hen peckin at the dirt.”

At this she perked up “Ah that’s my girl I was hoping she’d be allright, I wonder if she’ll leave us a little something for breakfast.”
“In this Weather” he grunted touching a match to a cheroot. “Maybe you need another shot of strong coffee that's not light rain out there you know”
“ Don’t laugh “ she said managing to be happy and sad in a moment “Sometimes I have to coax her into producing an egg, she’s quite stubburn you know and I find talking to her and asking her nicely is the best approach”
He coughed a lungful of smoke and with difficulty added a wink and asked “A bit like communicating with plants I suppose?”.

She decided to ignore this sally.

He shrugged, gave her a funny look, paused and after several moments whispered “ I want you”.
“Not now” she purred “ I’ll be your sweetheart at bedtime but as of now I’m hungry“.

With that she pulled on her coat and bracing herself against the wind struggled out into the yard and started calling the hens name over and over, all the time beseeching it to produce a lovely fresh egg. ………….

After all it was not dark yet!

Your mission is simply to answer this question: What was the Hen’s name?
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Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - 2:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmmm...this is very intriguing!

Are the 'he' and 'she' in the story HAM? Are they married? Do they live together? Or is this her home? Has she brought him to it? To protect him from the weather?

Is every detail important in this? Does she actually communicate with plants?

Is the hen's name related to: the weather? the man? the woman? Is it relevant that it's the Hen with a capital H? Is it a famous hen? Is it a genuine, real live hen that has feathers, clucks and pecks grain? Is it significant that it wasn't dark yet? Does the hen not produce eggs at night? Does the hen produce fertilised or unfertilised eggs? Is the hen famous? Would it be a name familiar to us, or is it something we have to figure out from the puzzle? Some kind of wordplay?
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Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - 11:28 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Hmmm...this is very intriguing! Why thank you I hope it turns out to be enjoyable as well

Are the 'he' and 'she' in the story HAM? Yes Are they married? not really relevant but from their conversation I would say not Do they live together? No i see them as occasional lovers but not really relevant Or is this her home? Yes Has she brought him to it? Not especially relevant but I get the feeling that he arrived unexpectedly the previous night To protect him from the weather? See above although it is important that she got him out of the weather

Is every detail important in this? No there's a quite a bit of gap filling with inane chat. Does she actually communicate with plants? Let's say yes but not relevant

Is the hen's name related to: the weather? the man? the woman? None of these Is it relevant that it's the Hen with a capital H? No just my bad typinG Is it a famous hen? No Is it a genuine, real live hen that has feathers, clucks and pecks grain? Yes Is it significant that it wasn't dark yet? yes this is fairly significant Does the hen not produce eggs at night? Not for this reason though Does the hen produce fertilised or unfertilised eggs? emm the ones you eat I guess. those are unfertillised aren't they? Is the hen famous? No she's still not famous Ha! Would it be a name familiar to us, or is it something we have to figure out from the puzzle? Something you have to work out i.e it's not a typical hen's name that you'd find in a farmyard story Some kind of wordplay? Yes there is a form of wordplay going on right throughout the puzzle statement

I have a feeling this will either go quite quickly or take ages
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Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - 12:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Let's play word association. Let me know if any of the following are relevant:
she got him out of the rain...umbrella? shelter? storm?
everything was destroyed...disaster? devastation?
it wasn't dark yet...dusk? sunset? sun shade? parasol?

Is Keith relevant? If so, is he HAM? Is he related to either of the main characters? Known by them?
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Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2010 - 1:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Let's play word association.A good approach Let me know if any of the following are relevant:
she got him out of the rain...umbrella? shelter? Yes storm? And this
everything was destroyed...disaster? devastation? No to both
it wasn't dark yet...dusk? sunset? sun shade? parasol? None of these

Is Keith relevant? Yes If so, is he HAM? Yes Is he related to either of the main characters? Yes Known by them? Yesish
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Is Keith related to Margaret? To the man? Known by Margaret? Known by the man? Known of by Margaret? Known of by the man?

I don't think this is it, but I have to check. The hen's name isn't "not dark yet" is it?

How does Keith feel after a party...hung over? tired? lonely? other?

It wasn't dark yet...twilight? moonrise? grey? shade? <==are any of these relevant?
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Posted on Thursday, March 11, 2010 - 10:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Keith related to Margaret? To the man? Known by Margaret? Known by the man? Known of by Margaret? This Known of by the man? And this

I don't think this is it, but I have to check. The hen's name isn't "not dark yet" is it? No

How does Keith feel after a party...hung over? This tired? lonely? other?

It wasn't dark yet...twilight? moonrise? grey? shade? <==are any of these relevant? None at all. Word association will only help with some phrases
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Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 2:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Word association will only help with some phrases well, yeah, but how can I know which ones until I try =)

Please clarify: In a previous post, you said "yes" to "is he related to either of the main characters?" In the most recent post, though, you said did not say "yes" to "is Keith related to Margaret" or "[is Keith related] to the man." Is this discrepancy a mistake? Or did I miss a main character? Is Keith related to the chicken??

Is the hen an actual chicken? If not, Is it human?
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Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 11:17 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Word association will only help with some phrases well, yeah, but how can I know which ones until I try =) Given the calibre of minds on this forum I find vagueness a big help when setting puzzles!!!

Please clarify: In a previous post, you said "yes" to "is he related to either of the main characters?" My humblest apologies this was a blooper . Keith is NOT related to either the man or margaret In the most recent post, though, you said did not say "yes" to "is Keith related to Margaret" or "[is Keith related] to the man." Is this discrepancy a mistake? Yes Or did I miss a main character? No you have all the characters you need Is Keith related to the chicken?? No

Saying as how I made a blooper I'll compensate you with a hint. Keith is a real life famous person


Is the hen an actual chicken? Yes If not, Is it human? No
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Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 11:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the name of the hen: one word long? two? three? more? is it a phrase? is it a recognisable word, like "Shell", or something put together syllable by syllable like "Marfidooshesrainyegg"?

Is Keith an actor? a singer? model? politician? sportsman? is Keith his real name? If not, is his real name relevant?

I notice the man 'rumbled' into the room, and there's bad weather... is thunder relevant?
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Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 11:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the name of the hen: one word long? yes two? three? more? is it a phrase? No is it a recognisable word, like "Shell", or something put together syllable by syllable like "Marfidooshesrainyegg"? It's an everyday regular word

Is Keith an actor? a singer? model? politician? sportsman? He's none of these but one of the list is not a million miles away is Keith his real name? Yes If not, is his real name relevant?

I notice the man 'rumbled' into the room, and there's bad weather... is thunder relevant? No but nice thinking. I was trying to describe the motion of someone suffering a hangover, again I would repeat I'm no author
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Posted on Friday, March 12, 2010 - 7:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is music relevant? stormy weather? is Keith a musician?

word association: are any of these relevant? turquoise bedding? lungful of smoke? cup of steaming coffee?
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Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 12:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is music relevant? yes stormy weather? yes to some extent is Keith a musician? yes

word association: are any of these relevant? turquoise bedding? yes lungful of smoke? No cup of steaming coffee? No
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Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 12:53 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is "blue" relevant? Does Keith play blues music?
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Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 8:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Keith Richards? Keith Jarrett? when we find the musician, are song titles from his oeuvre relevant? Is the hen referred to in a song or piece of music?
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Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 11:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is "blue" relevant? yes Does Keith play blues music? But no to this

Keith Richards? Yes Keith Jarrett? when we find the musician, are song titles from his oeuvre relevant? hmm how do i answer this. Exploring Keith Richard's repetoire will not help Is the hen referred to in a song or piece of music? For the purposes of this puzzle yes

Excellent progress guys
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Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 12:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it relevant that Keith Richards played in the Rolling Stones? Is a guitarist? Took drugs?

Are song titles relevant? From other rock groups?

Are the various phrases in the question where word association is relevant linked to song titles? song lyrics? If so, are they all from the same year? the same group? the same song?

Are the exact words in the question, or do we need to follow a cryptic link (e.g is it the words "turquoise bedding" that are needed. or should we try "blue blanket" or "cyan sheet"?)
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Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 2:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it relevant that Keith Richards played in the Rolling Stones? yes Is a guitarist? Took drugs? No to rest

Are song titles relevant? yes well done From other rock groups? No

Are the various phrases in the question where word association is relevant linked to song titles? Yes song lyrics? If so, are they all from the same year? No the same group? Not group but.... the same song? No

Are the exact words in the question, or do we need to follow a cryptic link (e.g is it the words "turquoise bedding" that are needed. or should we try "blue blanket" or "cyan sheet"?) In some cases the exact words in others just a clue to the song title but wouldn't describe them as cryptic in a crossword sense
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Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2010 - 4:00 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

any of the following relevant:

blue turns to grey?
confessin' the blues?
fancy man blues?
i got the blues?
stray cat blues?
ventilator blues?
yer blues?
gimme shelter?
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I got this from the last line, actually. As a complete groupie, I can lurk no longer! Sorry!

One more cup of coffee for the road? At Maggie's farm?

In this Hurricane?

He feels like a rolling stone?

We can't all be forever young. The times they are a-changing, you see. Just like a woman to say that.

Then 'I want you' and 'I'll be your baby tonight'.

It's not dark yet, but is it gettin' there?

I wonder if there's a bit of the Man in the Long Black Coat here, as well? Tree trunks uprooted, etc. Turquoise bedding? Is she perhaps tangled up in blue?

But the hen?

[Penny drops just before posting]

Is she just called 'Lady'? Boom-boom!

Great puzzle.
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Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 6:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

any of the following relevant:

blue turns to grey?
confessin' the blues?
fancy man blues?
i got the blues?
stray cat blues?
ventilator blues?
yer blues?
gimme shelter? None of these

I got this from the last line, actually. As a complete groupie, I can lurk no longer! Sorry!

One more cup of coffee for the road? At Maggie's farm?

In this Hurricane?

He feels like a rolling stone?

We can't all be forever young. The times they are a-changing, you see. Just like a woman to say that.

Then 'I want you' and 'I'll be your baby tonight'.

It's not dark yet, but is it gettin' there?

I wonder if there's a bit of the Man in the Long Black Coat here, as well? Tree trunks uprooted, etc. Turquoise bedding? Is she perhaps tangled up in blue?

But the hen?

[Penny drops just before posting]

Is she just called 'Lady'? Boom-boom!

Great puzzle. Super job Woodworm , nice to have you back and also to see that you having lost your happy knack of spoiling my puzzles
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Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 6:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

For the benefit of non fans of Bob Dylan here's an explanation. The story is laced with vague and not so vague references to Bob Dylan songs

He rumbled into the kitchen and found her sitting at the old table in her nightgown sipping slowly from a cup of steaming coffee One More Cup of Coffee for the Road.

He stode to the window, looked out and after some time muttered “Gosh those trees are really bending in the breeze out there.Blowin in the wind It’s like a hurricane Hurricane . Thank god you were here last night to get me out of that awful weather". Shelter from the Storm
“Don’t mention it again it’s ok” Don't Think Twice it's Allright she eased, all this time supping her coffee with relish.

He, still peering through the nearly clean pane ventured “God I wish I hadn’t drank so much wine last night, I feel like Keith after a party!”.Like a Rolling Stone
“Well if hadn’t been for you I’d have been wrapped up in my turquoise bedding very early last night.” Tangled up in Blue she said with a just a touch of rebuke.

He grunted, scratched and bitched “I’m hungover and I feel old “
“Well nobody stays youthful forever” Forever Young she paused and with a hint of mischief added “I guess things aren’t like they used to be.”The Times They are a Changin
“Typical female“ Just like a Woman he retorted acting all offended but to his credit saying it with a deal of humour and a hint of a smile.

He turned to look outside again and saw barns and outhouses with roofs and doors blown off . “Margaret love” Maggie's Farm he said without turning round “ have you looked out here, everything is destroyed”Everything is Broken
“I’m afraid to look “ she said , her voice becoming heavy.
“Goddamit the only living thing I see out there is a scrawny hen peckin at the dirt.”

At this she perked up “Ah that’s my girl I was hoping she’d be allright, I wonder if she’ll leave us a little something for breakfast.”
“In this Weather” he grunted touching a match to a cheroot. “Maybe you need another shot of strong coffee that's not light rain Hard Rain which is a Dylan Album out there you know”
“ Don’t laugh “ she said managing to be happy and sad in a moment “Sometimes I have to coax her into producing an egg, she’s quite stubburn you know and I find talking to her and asking her nicely is the best approach”
He coughed a lungful of smoke and with difficulty added a wink and asked “A bit like communicating with plants I suppose?”.

She decided to ignore this sally.

He shrugged, gave her a funny look, paused and after several moments whispered “ I want you” I want you.
“Not now” she purred “ I’ll be your sweetheart at bedtime I'll be your baby tonight but as of now I’m hungry“.

With that she pulled on her coat and bracing herself against the wind struggled out into the yard and started calling the hens name over and over, all the time beseeching it to produce a lovely fresh egg. ………….

After all it was not dark yet! Not dark yet

So the hen's name as Woodworm pointed out is Lady as in Lay Lady Lay

Hope you enjoyed this puzzle even though it was a bit specific to a particular music taste . This idea came to me while listening to Bob's greatest hits on my Ipod on the way to work. Thanks to all who took part
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Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 6:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Sorry that's a

*************Spoiler****************
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Posted on Sunday, March 14, 2010 - 9:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Lol, wow I would never have got any of that!

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