| Author | Message | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 2463 Registered: 5-2003 |
"I surrender!" "Surrender to the bush!" The speakers are HAM. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1678 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are they two? More people relevant? Is the bush on fire? Is it a plant? Or "bush" as in wilderness? Are they military? Is the bush a camouflaged higher officer? Are they playing a game? | ||
| Entity (Entity)
New member Username: Entity Post Number: 3 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are both sentences said by the same person? Is the second sentence elaborating on the first? (I surrender to the bush) Is the bush human? animal? plant? tangible? abstract? If it is two people conversing, is the second person commanding the first person? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 2464 Registered: 5-2003 |
Are they two? Yes. More people relevant? Yes. Is the bush on fire? No. Is it a plant? Yes. Or "bush" as in wilderness? No. Are they military? Yesish. Is the bush a camouflaged higher officer? No, but with an ish! Are they playing a game? No. Are both sentences said by the same person? No. Is the second sentence elaborating on the first? No. (I surrender to the bush) Is the bush human? animal? plant? This. tangible? This. abstract? If it is two people conversing, is the second person commanding the first person? Yes. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1682 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the bush a camouflaged person? Or is a person hiding behind the bush? Or inside? Or does the bush represent a person? Are they at war? Is their nationality relevant? Relevant which century this happened? Decade? Country? Are they paramilitary? Guerilla? Criminals? Law enforcement? Are they training? Do they have guns? does he surrender in order not to get: hurt? Killed? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 2465 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is the bush a camouflaged person? Or is a person hiding behind the bush? Or inside? Or does the bush represent a person? No to all. Are they at war? Yes. Is their nationality relevant? Yes. Relevant which century this happened? Yes. Decade? Yes. Country? Yes. Are they paramilitary? This is closest. Guerilla? No. Criminals? YMMV. Law enforcement? No. Are they training? No. Do they have guns? No. does he surrender in order not to get: hurt? Killed? Both. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1693 Registered: 9-2009 |
When he surrenders to the bush, is he surrendering to a person at all? Or is he surrendering to an actual plant? Is the bush used as a weapon? Is it poisonous? Thorny? Otherwise dangerous? Is it used as camouflage? Is there something relevant: inside it? Behind it? Above it? Beneath it? Are they in the jungle? Is it a well known war? Is it still ongoing? Did it happen in [LTPF list of centuries]? | ||
| Woubit (Woubit)
Moderator Username: Woubit Post Number: 995 Registered: 5-2007 |
But I have dreamed a dreary dream Beyond the Isle of Skye; I saw a dead man win a fight, And I think that man was I. If this is relevant, I will retire and leave the field to others. If not, I have some questions. | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 2466 Registered: 5-2003 |
But I have dreamed a dreary dream Beyond the Isle of Skye; I saw a dead man win a fight, And I think that man was I. Very relevant! When he surrenders to the bush, is he surrendering to a person at all? Yope. Or is he surrendering to an actual plant? No. Is the bush used as a weapon? Is it poisonous? Thorny? Otherwise dangerous? Is it used as camouflage? No to all. Is there something relevant: inside it? This, also a BLOOPER earlier -- yesish to a person hiding inside. Behind it? Above it? Beneath it? Are they in the jungle? No. Is it a well known war? No. Is it still ongoing? No. Did it happen in [LTPF list of centuries]? 14th. | ||
| Mackadal (Mackadal)
New member Username: Mackadal Post Number: 3 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does the term "bush" have the sexual connotation? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 2467 Registered: 5-2003 |
Does the term "bush" have the sexual connotation? No. | ||
| Deathateaster (Deathateaster)
New member Username: Deathateaster Post Number: 250 Registered: 5-2007 |
Is there a speaker inside? A radio of some sort? A walkie-talkie? Is the bush some kind of disguised surveillance equipment? Is the bush the one saying "I surrender"? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 2471 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is there a speaker inside? A radio of some sort? A walkie-talkie? Is the bush some kind of disguised surveillance equipment? Is the bush the one saying "I surrender"? No to all; this is the 14th century, remember. | ||
| Alhucema (Alhucema)
New member Username: Alhucema Post Number: 2044 Registered: 11-2008 |
Is the bush mistaken for a person? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1708 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is there a dead person inside the bush? Is he surrendering to the dead person? Is he the one who killed the dead person? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 2474 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is there a dead person inside the bush? Is he surrendering to the dead person? Is he the one who killed the dead person? Yes to all. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 1729 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was the dead person a higher officer? Or royalty? A noble? Another person more appropriate to surrender to than the one speaking? Or is he made to surrender to the dead person simply because it was he who killed him? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 2475 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was the dead person a higher officer? Or royalty? A noble? This. Another person more appropriate to surrender to than the one speaking? This. Or is he made to surrender to the dead person simply because it was he who killed him? **************************** SPOILER **************************** The Battle of Otterburn was fought on the Scottish border in 1388. Though the Scots led by Douglas beat the English led by Lord Percy, Douglas was killed in the battle. According to a well-known song about the battle: 0 bury me by the bracken bush, Beneath the blooming brier; Let never living mortal ken That a kindly Scot lies here. He lifted up that noble lord, With the salt tear in his e'e; He hid him in the bracken bush, That his own men might not see. Now yield, Percy! Montgom'ry cried, Or else I'll lay thee low! Whom shall I yield to, said Percy, Since I see it must be so? Then shalt not yield to lord nor loin, Nor shalt thou yield to me; But yield thee to the bracken bush That grows on yonder lea! | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 735 Registered: 6-2008 |
That is the first time I've seen a poet do something as odd as write "eye" as "e'e" to make it rhyme with "see". Makes some of the weirder rhymes in rap sound quite normal. | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 2476 Registered: 5-2003 |
In the original I found, brier is spelt bre'er (to rhyme with "here,") and there are a number of other period spellings I changed for clarity. "E'e" is a common spelling/pronunciation of eye in period poetry -- it appears in Shakespeare, IIRC, and in several other folksongs I can think of. |
