| Author | Message | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 163 Registered: 5-2010 |
Before I got the opportunity to work at a bird tagging facility, I was under the assumption that you checked the nets for caught birds often, just to be kind to the birds and shorten their suffering. However, I soon learned the real reason why you check the nets every 15 minutes and it was a lot more interesting and lateral than I had imagined. No special zoological knowledge is required to solve this puzzle. With some luck and good thinking, you'll figure it out really fast. | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 1392 Registered: 3-2006 |
Hmm... any of the following relevant? The birds' welfare? Accuracy of information collected? State of the net? Birds fighting? Breeding? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 167 Registered: 5-2010 |
Hmm... any of the following relevant? The birds' welfare? yes Accuracy of information collected? no State of the net? yes, but very little Birds fighting? not really, but could be on the right track Breeding? no | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 279 Registered: 5-2010 |
Was your going to the net every so often perceived by the birds, or by other animals? Is this relevant? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 169 Registered: 5-2010 |
Was your going to the net every so often perceived by the birds, or by other animals? Is this relevant? Everytime we went to the nets, we removed all the birds that had been caught, so off course these birds were well aware of us. But there is more to this, and it's relevant. You're on the right track. Could you please rephrase so I don't give away too much for free? | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 1393 Registered: 3-2006 |
Is it relevant that birds not caught in the net (just hanging around) see you guys checking the net? Is it for them to get used to you? | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 282 Registered: 5-2010 |
Certainly... Your going to the nets was seen by animals who weren't in the nets? Perhaps this kept predators away from the nets, thus protecting the birds who would be caught? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 172 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is it relevant that birds not caught in the net (just hanging around) see you guys checking the net? no Is it for them to get used to you? no Your going to the nets was seen by animals who weren't in the nets? yesish Perhaps this kept predators away from the nets, thus protecting the birds who would be caught? Yesish. This is most definately on the right track. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 651 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it to get the birds out of the nets so the predators don't eat them? So the predators stay away from the nets? | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 286 Registered: 5-2010 |
So it's to protect the birds from other animals? Other birds? Are they deterred by your sight? Your smell? Are you doing something additional to the nets that helps to deter the animals? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 176 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is it to get the birds out of the nets so the predators don't eat them? Yes! But not only this! So the predators stay away from the nets? no So it's to protect the birds from other animals? yes, but not only this! Other birds? yes Are they deterred by your sight? yes, but... Your smell? no Are you doing something additional to the nets that helps to deter the animals? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 654 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the specific type of predator relevant? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 178 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is the specific type of predator relevant? not specific, but general type will help | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 1394 Registered: 3-2006 |
Might the predators get stuck in the net too? Is this what you're trying to avoid? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 2735 Registered: 5-2003 |
Were humans the predators? Does it also protect birds from the elements? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 183 Registered: 5-2010 |
Might the predators get stuck in the net too? yes! Is this what you're trying to avoid?no! Brilliant questioning =) Were humans the predators? no Does it also protect birds from the elements? no, if it's too bad weather, the nets aren't put up | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2048 Registered: 9-2009 |
Will a predator stuck in the net scare away other birds, meaning you won't catch as many? Or will other stuck birds warn and/or scare away other birds? | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 1396 Registered: 3-2006 |
"Might the predators get stuck in the net too? yes! Is this what you're trying to avoid? no!" Are predators getting stuck in the net desirable? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 184 Registered: 5-2010 |
Will a predator stuck in the net scare away other birds, meaning you won't catch as many? yes, but this is fairly irr Or will other stuck birds warn and/or scare away other birds? irr Are predators getting stuck in the net desirable? exactly | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 1397 Registered: 3-2006 |
Do you take the predators out of the net? Do you keep them in a separate area where they won't bother the birds you want to tag? | ||
| Emma_nilsson (Emma_nilsson)
New member Username: Emma_nilsson Post Number: 187 Registered: 5-2010 |
Do you take the predators out of the net? yes Do you keep them in a separate area where they won't bother the birds you want to tag? yes, but we tagged the predators as well * * * SPOILER * * * Once in a while, the small birds stuck in the net would attract a falcon or a hawk. These bigger birds didn't really get caught in the nets cause they are strong enough to pull free, though they had to sit in/on the net when eating their prey. By coming to the nets often, we could, if lucky, take the predator by surprise and grab it before it flew off. Tagging falcons are always greater fun than tagging sparrows. =) So off course, we did care about the birds wellfare, but when it couldn't be helped and it was too late, we were also happy to catch bigger birds. | ||
| Jumpingjack (Jumpingjack)
New member Username: Jumpingjack Post Number: 1398 Registered: 3-2006 |
I love birds! Thanks for the puzzle, that's really interesting to know =) | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 2769 Registered: 5-2003 |
Pretty neat, and it sounds like a fun job! |
