| Author | Message | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3139 Registered: 5-2003 |
The last problem could be said to have been solved with help from the enemy. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1530 Registered: 4-2010 |
This is another Mark 14 torpedo puzzle, correct? Would enemy radar have "solved" the problem? Is the material of the torpedo relevant? Of the enemy ships? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3142 Registered: 5-2003 |
This is another Mark 14 torpedo puzzle, correct? Yup. Would enemy radar have "solved" the problem? No. Is the material of the torpedo relevant? Yes. Of the enemy ships? No. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1539 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the material: -In the torpedo's shell? -Explosive? -Launching mechanism? Is the material a type of metal? If so, iron? Brass? Copper? Steel? Silver? Zinc? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1540 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the problem actually solved? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3148 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is the material: -In the torpedo's shell? Define shell. -Explosive? No. -Launching mechanism? No. Is the material a type of metal? Yes. If so, iron? Brass? Copper? Steel? This, I think. Silver? Zinc? Was the problem actually solved? Yes. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1555 Registered: 4-2010 |
Shell = the outside part of the torpedo. Was the material causing a problem: -At launch? -In mid-"flight"? -Finding targets? -Locking on? -Hitting the target? -When exploding? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3150 Registered: 5-2003 |
Shell = the outside part of the torpedo. Then no. Was the material causing a problem: -At launch? -In mid-"flight"? -Finding targets? -Locking on? -Hitting the target? -When exploding? This. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1562 Registered: 4-2010 |
Would the torpedo explode at all? Would it blow up inside the outer shell? Would it explode well before hitting the ship? When being launched? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3153 Registered: 5-2003 |
Would the torpedo explode at all? Under the best circumstances, no. Would it blow up inside the outer shell? Don't they all? Would it explode well before hitting the ship? No. When being launched? No. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2351 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did solving the last problem involve: changing the design of the torpedo? changing the launch procedures? The detonation parameters? The enemy=the Japanese? German? Just axis powers in general? Was the problem here that it did not always explode? Was the torpedo defective in a third way? Did the enemy build ships that were vulnerable even to a defective torpedo? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3154 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did solving the last problem involve: changing the design of the torpedo? Thisish. changing the launch procedures? The detonation parameters? The enemy=the Japanese? This. German? Just axis powers in general? Was the problem here that it did not always explode? Yes. Was the torpedo defective in a third way? Yes. Did the enemy build ships that were vulnerable even to a defective torpedo? No. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2354 Registered: 9-2009 |
It failed to explode even after detecting the ships, correct? Did it fail to explode when the contact fuze was triggered? Was there something wrong with the explosive itself? With the detonator? The fuze mechanism? Did the torpedoes use electrical detonators only? Did water get into sensitive parts of the mechanism? Or other foreign matter? Rust relevant? Galvanic corrosion? Other corrosion? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3155 Registered: 5-2003 |
It failed to explode even after detecting the ships, correct? It could't detect them -- this wasn't a homing torpedo. Did it fail to explode when the contact fuze was triggered? Yes. Was there something wrong with the explosive itself? No. With the detonator? Yes. The fuze mechanism? You could say so. Did the torpedoes use electrical detonators only? Yes. Did water get into sensitive parts of the mechanism? Or other foreign matter? Rust relevant? Galvanic corrosion? Other corrosion? None of these. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2357 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did the detonator not detonate? Or detonate too weakly? Did it not get enough electricity to detonate? Did it need more electricity than the specification indicated? Was there something wrong with the power supply? Was there something wrong with the explosive in the detonator? Was it missing? Or was the detonator not sufficiently embedded in the secondary explosive? Relevant what type of electric detonator it was? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3156 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did the detonator not detonate? This. Or detonate too weakly? No. Did it not get enough electricity to detonate? Correct. Did it need more electricity than the specification indicated? No. Was there something wrong with the power supply? No. Was there something wrong with the explosive in the detonator? No. Was it missing? No. Or was the detonator not sufficiently embedded in the secondary explosive? No. Relevant what type of electric detonator it was? I don't think so; there is a relevant part of the detonator that does not necessarily have to be electric, but is in this case. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2358 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did the detonator not get any electricity at all? Or only insufficient? Was there a problem with the power switching electronics and/or mechanics? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3157 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did the detonator not get any electricity at all? Correct. Or only insufficient? Was there a problem with the power switching electronics and/or mechanics? Yes (the mechanics.) | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2360 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did a switch not close properly? Or a relay? Did the impact sensor not always activate on impact? Did the sensor itself not always come in contact the target? Because of how the casing/trigger was shaped? Or did it jam? Did it malfunction when hitting the target at a shallow angle? Or head on? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3158 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did a switch not close properly? This, I think. Or a relay? Did the impact sensor not always activate on impact? Yesish. Did the sensor itself not always come in contact the target? No. Because of how the casing/trigger was shaped? No. Or did it jam? This. Did it malfunction when hitting the target at a shallow angle? Or head on? This - as a hint it worked better when striking at shallow angles. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1564 Registered: 4-2010 |
Would the angle of force when striking at a shallow angle cause the switch to close? But not head-on? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3160 Registered: 5-2003 |
Would the angle of force when striking at a shallow angle cause the switch to close? Not as such. But not head-on? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1567 Registered: 4-2010 |
Would the force from a head-on impact cause the trigger to jam? Would the torpedo buckle at all on impact? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3163 Registered: 5-2003 |
Would the force from a head-on impact cause the trigger to jam? Yes. Would the torpedo buckle at all on impact? No, but... | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1576 Registered: 4-2010 |
Would the impact cause the circuitry/equipment/stuff inside the torpedo to jiggle? Thus jamming the trigger? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3166 Registered: 5-2003 |
Would the impact cause the circuitry/equipment/stuff inside the torpedo to jiggle? Not this exactly. Thus jamming the trigger? Yes. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1584 Registered: 4-2010 |
Would the impact short out the electricity to the trigger? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3170 Registered: 5-2003 |
Would the impact short out the electricity to the trigger? No. And it might be better to call it "the firing pin." | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1590 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the firing pin have to strike a primer? Did it miss the primer? Not fire at all? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3173 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did the firing pin have to strike a primer? Yes. Did it miss the primer? Sometimes. Not fire at all? But usually this. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1607 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did something get in between the pin and primer? Was the pin moved by the impact? The primer? Did the pin not move? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3175 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did something get in between the pin and primer? No. Was the pin moved by the impact? Yes. The primer? No. Did the pin not move? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1610 Registered: 4-2010 |
So when the torpedo hit its target head on, it jolted the firing pin? So it could not fire? Or it misfired (missed the primer)? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3177 Registered: 5-2003 |
So when the torpedo hit its target head on, it jolted the firing pin? Worse than that. So it could not fire? Or it misfired (missed the primer)? Either. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1620 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the impact break the firing pin? Break it loose? Destroy it? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3179 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did the impact break the firing pin? Effectively, yes. Break it loose? Destroy it? Close enough. | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 406 Registered: 5-2010 |
So did something that the enemy did/had alert them to the problem? Did the enemy become aware of the defective torpedo problem? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3186 Registered: 5-2003 |
So did something that the enemy did/had alert them to the problem? No, other than their ships not sinking. Did the enemy become aware of the defective torpedo problem? Yes, but irrelevant to the solution. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1634 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was enemy equipment used to fix the problem? Captured enemy equipment? Enemy technology? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3188 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was enemy equipment used to fix the problem? Yes. Captured enemy equipment? Yesish. Enemy technology? No. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1640 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was stolen equipment used to fix it? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3191 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was stolen equipment used to fix it? No. If you like, change the "Captured enemy equipment" to Yes. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1684 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the "fixing equipment" captured from other ships? Other torpedos? Other guns? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3194 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was the "fixing equipment" captured from other ships? Other torpedos? Other guns? None of these. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1701 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was it something enemy soldiers carried with them? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3197 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was it something enemy soldiers carried with them? No. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1711 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the equipment a weapon of some sort? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3200 Registered: 5-2003 |
Is the equipment a weapon of some sort? No. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1718 Registered: 4-2010 |
"Help from the enemy" - is kamikaze relevant? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3202 Registered: 5-2003 |
"Help from the enemy" - is kamikaze relevant? No. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2371 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did they use parts from enemy equipment in the torpedoes that were fixed? Or did they only use the equipment to make the necessary change to the firing mechanism? Did they copy the equipment? Is it a tool? Was it designed for use on torpedoes? Or something completely different? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3205 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did they use parts from enemy equipment in the torpedoes that were fixed? This. Or did they only use the equipment to make the necessary change to the firing mechanism? Did they copy the equipment? No. Is it a tool? No. Was it designed for use on torpedoes? No. Or something completely different? Yes. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2374 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did they replace the firing pin? Did the enemy equipment just happen to fit correctly? Did they replace anything? Or only add this part to fix the problem? Is the part made from: metal? Rubber? Wood? Plastic? Glass? Fabric? Leather? Paper? Liquid? Plant? Animal? Was it: captured? Left on battlefields? Thrown/dropped/fired/otherwise delivered to the allied forces? Was it found on land? On enemy ships? Or airplanes? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3206 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did they replace the firing pin? Yes. Did the enemy equipment just happen to fit correctly? No. Did they replace anything? Yes. Or only add this part to fix the problem? No. Is the part made from: metal? This. Rubber? Wood? Plastic? Glass? Fabric? Leather? Paper? Liquid? Plant? Animal? Was it: captured? Thisish. Left on battlefields? But this is more correct. Thrown/dropped/fired/otherwise delivered to the allied forces? Was it found on land? On enemy ships? Or airplanes? Yes. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2377 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was it cylindrical? Did they modify it to fit? And then it fit better than the original firing pin? Did they capture/find enough parts that they didn't need to manufacture their own? How many of the part would be found in an airplane, more than: 2? 5? 10? 50? 200? Was it originally an axle of some sort? Would it help to know approx. how big it was? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3209 Registered: 5-2003 |
Was it cylindrical? Not originally. Did they modify it to fit? Yes. And then it fit better than the original firing pin? Not this. Did they capture/find enough parts that they didn't need to manufacture their own? For the time being; I think they eventually started manufacturing an improved firing pin at the factory. How many of the part would be found in an airplane, more than: 2? 5? 10? 50? 200? I don't know exactly, but scores at least. Was it originally an axle of some sort? No. Would it help to know approx. how big it was? Dunno exactly, but typically around 6 feet across in undamaged condition, depending on the plane it came from. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2380 Registered: 9-2009 |
Were they struts? Tubular? Square? Flat? Structural elements? Did they work better because it fit worse than the original firing pin? So that it could move more freely? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3210 Registered: 5-2003 |
Were they struts? Tubular? Square? Flat? Structural elements? None of these, though there are elements of flatness. Did they work better because it fit worse than the original firing pin? No. So that it could move more freely? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1730 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did they use bullets to fix the firing pin? Cartridges? Other ammunition? Unexploded bombs? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3211 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did they use bullets to fix the firing pin? Cartridges? Other ammunition? Unexploded bombs? None of these. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2385 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are the pieces parts of the: engines? Weapon systems? Hydraulic systems? Fuselage? Fuel system? Landing gear? Control surfaces? Other aerodynamic surfaces? Such as the wings? Cockpit systems? Instrumentation? Armor? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3214 Registered: 5-2003 |
Are the pieces parts of the: engines? Yesish. Weapon systems? Hydraulic systems? Fuselage? Fuel system? Landing gear? Control surfaces? Other aerodynamic surfaces? Yes. Such as the wings? Not this. Cockpit systems? Instrumentation? Armor? None of the others. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1737 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are the pieces from the "shell" of the plane? Part of the "nose"? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3215 Registered: 5-2003 |
Are the pieces from the "shell" of the plane? Part of the "nose"? This. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2388 Registered: 9-2009 |
Propeller? Engine cooling system? Engine supports? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3217 Registered: 5-2003 |
Propeller? This. You're almost done! Now why did they use it? Engine cooling system? Engine supports? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1744 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did they use it to propel the torpedo? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3222 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did they use it to propel the torpedo? No. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2393 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did they use it: because they could? Because it could easily be machined to fit? Because some part of it was perfect for the job? Did they use one propeller blade in each torpedo? Or an entire propeller? Or did they make several firing pins out of one propeller? Is the metal used in propellers relevant? Was it alu? Steel? Titanium? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3223 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did they use it: because they could? It {was handy.} Because it could easily be machined to fit? Because some part of it was perfect for the job? This. Did they use one propeller blade in each torpedo? Or an entire propeller? Or did they make several firing pins out of one propeller? Yes. Is the metal used in propellers relevant? Yes. Was it alu? This. Steel? Titanium? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1749 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were any of the propeller blades used? All of them? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3227 Registered: 5-2003 |
Were any of the propeller blades used? Yes. All of them? Doubtful, but I wouldn't be surprised. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1755 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did they make the pins out of the propeller blades? Were they made out of the same material? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3229 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did they make the pins out of the propeller blades? Yes. Were they made out of the same material? As the original pins? No. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 1758 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the aluminum in the blades make a better material for the pins than the original pins? Would the aluminum prevent jamming? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 3230 Registered: 5-2003 |
Did the aluminum in the blades make a better material for the pins than the original pins? Yes! Would the aluminum prevent jamming? ******************* Silent Spoiler! ******************* With the other problems corrected, the Mark 14 torpedo still didn't work; direct hits tended to be duds. This was because the firing pins of the Mark 14's exploder were designed for a slower torpedo; the impact was so fast that the heavy pin didn't have time to drive into the exploder and set it off before it was crushed under the impact. A more lightweight pin was necessary, and ironically came from the propellers of Japanese planes shot down during the attack on Pearl Harbor. The Mark 14 did not become a reliable weapon until halfway through the war. I think Galfisk will like the next puzzle... | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2422 Registered: 9-2009 |
Haha, great series of puzzles, what a complete mess that thing was. |
