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| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 471 Registered: 5-2010 |
A man drives to work using the same route every day. However, on this particular day, he takes a route that is three miles longer. He has no extra stops, and his usual route is not blocked, so why does he do it? | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 921 Registered: 6-2008 |
Is something wrong with his car? Maybe a broken turn signal (that would be a silly reason to go all that way, but this is the LTPF)? Oh, and to avoid a possible FA, he IS driving the alternate route, not walking it (or biking, etc.), correct? | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 472 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is something wrong with his car? Maybe a broken turn signal (that would be a silly reason to go all that way, but this is the LTPF)? I figured this would be rather quick. Yes, it's a broken turn signal, although that's not all there is to it. Oh, and to avoid a possible FA, he IS driving the alternate route, not walking it (or biking, etc.), correct? correct | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3043 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is only one turn signal broken? Both? Assuming the first, does he take a route with only turns that have the working signal (i.e. left turn signal broken, he takes all right turns)? | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 474 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is only one turn signal broken? Both? Only one, but irrelevant Assuming the first, does he take a route with only turns that have the working signal (i.e. left turn signal broken, he takes all right turns)? no, there are right and left turns in his new route as well | ||
| Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd Post Number: 923 Registered: 6-2008 |
Did the old route have a turn, in the direction of the broken signal, where there is a lot of oncoming traffic? whereas on the new route, all such turns are at intersections with little traffic? Or is it the use of a turn signal to indicate a lane change that's relevant? | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 475 Registered: 5-2010 |
Did the old route have a turn, in the direction of the broken signal, where there is a lot of oncoming traffic? whereas on the new route, all such turns are at intersections with little traffic? no to both Or is it the use of a turn signal to indicate a lane change that's relevant? yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3051 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does the normal route use the highway? And the alternate route does not? So he doesn't have to change lanes at high speeds with a broken turn signal? Which would be dangerous? | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 477 Registered: 5-2010 |
Does the normal route use the highway? yes And the alternate route does not? no, alternate route still uses highway So he doesn't have to change lanes at high speeds with a broken turn signal? he still has to Which would be dangerous? irrel, although this is certainly true | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 1208 Registered: 11-2003 |
Do both routes use the same part of the highway? If not, is it relevant where he comes on? and/or take off? the highway? If relevant, is it relevant for both the normal and the alternate routes? | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 478 Registered: 5-2010 |
Do both routes use the same part of the highway? yope If not, is it relevant where he comes on? no and/or take off? yes the highway? If relevant, is it relevant for both the normal and the alternate routes? yes, it is relevant (to some degree) where he gets off for both routes, although "where" might be misleading | ||
| Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm Post Number: 1805 Registered: 3-2006 |
Does he normally drive past a police station or police camera? One which would detect his faulty indicator? | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 479 Registered: 5-2010 |
Does he normally drive past a police station or police camera? One which would detect his faulty indicator? no, but OTRT. And I think there is some FA present | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 1209 Registered: 11-2003 |
You said 'where' might be misleading. Would 'when' be a better word? | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 480 Registered: 5-2010 |
You said 'where' might be misleading. Would 'when' be a better word? yes, that's a good deal better, I would say | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 1212 Registered: 11-2003 |
Does he spend longer? or shorter? time on the highway on the alternate route? | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 482 Registered: 5-2010 |
Does he spend longer? yes or shorter? time on the highway on the alternate route? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3073 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is his usual exit, say, a left-hand exit? And he takes a right-hand one to be safer? Thus he is on the highway longer? | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 1215 Registered: 11-2003 |
Hmm, is the indicator broken all the time, or does work at certain intervals? So he had to stay on the road until it would work again? | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 484 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is his usual exit, say, a left-hand exit? No And he takes a right-hand one to be safer? Thus he is on the highway longer? No to these, although he is on the highway longer Hmm, is the indicator broken all the time, or does work at certain intervals? It is broken all the time. So he had to stay on the road until it would work again? So no. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3102 Registered: 4-2010 |
He is on the highway longer...does "longer" refer to distance? Time? Both? | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 487 Registered: 5-2010 |
He is on the highway longer...does "longer" refer to distance? Time? Both? Yes, both. | ||
| Eli (Eli)
New member Username: Eli Post Number: 1221 Registered: 11-2003 |
Was there any differences in the layout of the two exits? Would for instance the exit off the highway on the alternate route not require a change of lanes? If the alternate exit had been earlier? or later? on the route, would he still have chosen the alternate route? If not, would he then stuck to the normal one? or chose a third option? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3111 Registered: 4-2010 |
Just to avoid an FA, does he take a different exit than normal? A different entrance ramp? | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 493 Registered: 5-2010 |
Was there any differences in the layout of the two exits? no Would for instance the exit off the highway on the alternate route not require a change of lanes? No, assume the exits were essentially identical. If the alternate exit had been earlier? or later? on the route, would he still have chosen the alternate route? probably not for both cases If not, would he then stuck to the normal one? no or chose a third option? exactly Just to avoid an FA, does he take a different exit than normal? yes A different entrance ramp? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3121 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the turn at the end of the exit ramp relevant? Are any turns relevant? Or just lane changes? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3001 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does he take the alternate route to avoid something? A specific place? A specific person? Trouble with the law? Does he not want to fix the turn signal? Relevant how it became broken? | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 494 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is the turn at the end of the exit ramp relevant? Are any turns relevant? Or just lane changes? yes, just lane changes Does he take the alternate route to avoid something? yes A specific place? A specific person? yesish Trouble with the law? yes! Does he not want to fix the turn signal? Irrel, assume he just hasn't gotten around to it yet Relevant how it became broken? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3145 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is he trying to avoid a ticket for the broken signal? For something else? Is he avoiding a police trap? A police station? Assuming there is a police trap, is it at the end of his normal exit? On his normal exit? On the highway itself? | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 499 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is he trying to avoid a ticket for the broken signal? yes For something else? no Is he avoiding a police trap? no, not exactly, but OTRT A police station? no Assuming there is a police trap, is it at the end of his normal exit? On his normal exit? On the highway itself? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3228 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is he avoiding a traffic camera? Is the thing he's avoiding at the end of his normal exit? On his normal exit? On the highway itself? | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 502 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is he avoiding a traffic camera? no Is the thing he's avoiding at the end of his normal exit? no On his normal exit? no On the highway itself? yes | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3233 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does he have to be in a certain lane in order to avoid this? Is the thing electronic? A person? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2042 Registered: 1-2001 |
This may have been covered and I missed it - is he travelling on a highway that is regularly patrolled by traffic police? Is it necessary that he change lanes on his route, whether he takes the shorter or longer route? Can't he simply merge onto the highway and stay in the same lane until he exits? Is he driving a car? motorcycle? bus? public transit vehicle? Silly question - is he, himself, an officer of the law? | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 505 Registered: 5-2010 |
Does he have to be in a certain lane in order to avoid this? no Is the thing electronic? A person? this This may have been covered and I missed it - is he travelling on a highway that is regularly patrolled by traffic police? irrel as to whether it is "regularly patrolled", but... Is it necessary that he change lanes on his route, whether he takes the shorter or longer route? yes, he has to change lanes either way Can't he simply merge onto the highway and stay in the same lane until he exits? well, yes, actually he could, but... Is he driving a car? this motorcycle? bus? public transit vehicle? Silly question - is he, himself, an officer of the law? no, he's not, but I think that's a good lateral question | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2047 Registered: 1-2001 |
Is he riding alone in the car? Is this relevant? Is it relevant where he works? Does he get into his car, drive to work, then park and exit the car to enter his workplace? Or does his job require the use of his car? Does he own the car, or is it property of his employer? Are carpool/HOV lanes relevant? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3242 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is he avoiding a police officer? Does he pass the person whether or not he takes the alternate route? Is the person on the right side of the highway? Left side? | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 507 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is he riding alone in the car? Is this relevant? not relevant Is it relevant where he works? no Does he get into his car, drive to work, then park and exit the car to enter his workplace? yes Or does his job require the use of his car? no, or irrel Does he own the car, or is it property of his employer? He owns it Are carpool/HOV lanes relevant? no Is he avoiding a police officer? yes! Does he pass the person whether or not he takes the alternate route? no, he doesn't pass the person at all! Is the person on the right side of the highway? Left side? irrel | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2051 Registered: 1-2001 |
Is the broken blinker on the front of the car? or the rear? or both? does it matter? Is the broken blinker on the left side? or the right side? or both? does it matter? Are any other functions of the car not working properly? So the man doesn't pass the officer - does he think that the officer will be driving behind him? Does the man expect the officer to be in a patrol car? On a motorcycle? On foot? In a helicopter? Some other kind of patrol? | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 510 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is the broken blinker on the front of the car? or the rear? this or both? although I think it sometimes affects both, but irrel does it matter? it's important that it's on the rear Is the broken blinker on the left side? or the right side? this or both? does it matter? yes Are any other functions of the car not working properly? no So the man doesn't pass the officer - does he think that the officer will be driving behind him? he doesn't just THINK that... Does the man expect the officer to be in a patrol car? On a motorcycle? On foot? In a helicopter? the man doesn't expect anything, but patrol car is the correct mode of transport Some other kind of patrol? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3244 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does he know the officer will be driving behind him? Would the officer take the same exit as his normal route? And so, if the man took his normal route, the officer would see the broken signal? So he takes a different route? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2053 Registered: 1-2001 |
Is it guaranteed that if the man uses his most common route he will, at some point along the way, be driving in front of a patrol car? Or moreso just that the odds favor this? Is he simply trying to avoid being pulled over and cited for a non-working rear blinker? Is there something about his car that would attract attention from patrol cars (besides the broken blinker)? If his blinker were working, would he exit the highway on the right side? Since it isn't working and he takes a longer route, does he still exit to the same side as he would if the blinker worked? What I'm wondering is if he's doing this because of some "hot zone", or regularly patrolled area of the highway, and he knows that his usual exit is in that zone, yet in order to properly exit the highway a driver must use his right blinker, which in this man's case he cannot do? | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 511 Registered: 5-2010 |
Does he know the officer will be driving behind him? "will be"? no Would the officer take the same exit as his normal route? not necessarily, no, but OTRT And so, if the man took his normal route, the officer would see the broken signal? but yes, this is true So he takes a different route? yes Is it guaranteed that if the man uses his most common route he will, at some point along the way, be driving in front of a patrol car? No, it's not guaranteed Or moreso just that the odds favor this? It's not about odds or predictions... Is he simply trying to avoid being pulled over and cited for a non-working rear blinker? yes Is there something about his car that would attract attention from patrol cars (besides the broken blinker)? no If his blinker were working, would he exit the highway on the right side? yes, and his normal one Since it isn't working and he takes a longer route, does he still exit to the same side as he would if the blinker worked? yes What I'm wondering is if he's doing this because of some "hot zone", or regularly patrolled area of the highway, and he knows that his usual exit is in that zone, yet in order to properly exit the highway a driver must use his right blinker, which in this man's case he cannot do? this is correct in some sense, but it doesn't matter whether it's regularly patrolled or not, or that there is any "zone" to speak of | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3259 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the officer driving behind him? So he waits for the cop to go away before exiting? Causing him to have to take another exit? | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 512 Registered: 5-2010 |
Is the officer driving behind him? So he waits for the cop to go away before exiting? Causing him to have to take another exit? That's it! ***********SPOILER************* The man's right rear turn signal is out on his car, and has been for a week or two. As he is driving on the highway in the middle lane, he notices a police car behind him. Rather than trying to take his exit by changing lanes and risking being pulled over for not using a turn signal, he decides to wait it out until the police car exits (or at least moves out from behind him). Once it does, he changes lanes and takes the next exit in order to circle back around to his original route. This has actually happened to me, although not on a highway. I needed to turn right, but turned left instead to avoid being pulled over. :P Thanks to Balin, Biograd, Eli, Galfisk, Ixoye, Woodworm, and the Academy. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3263 Registered: 4-2010 |
Nice puzzle! Although I have to wonder: who (or what) is the Academy? | ||
| Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2064 Registered: 1-2001 |
That's a good one! | ||
| It_so_happened (It_so_happened)
New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 513 Registered: 5-2010 |
The Academy is what every Oscar winner thanks. ;) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 3267 Registered: 4-2010 |
Ah, of course! |
