| Author | Message | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2700 Registered: 9-2009 |
A find led me to believe it would be easy. Hopefully nobody's angry about it. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2465 Registered: 4-2010 |
"It" #1 = an action? An object? "Find" = an object? Is the LTPF relevant? Is skydiving? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2705 Registered: 9-2009 |
"It" #1 = an action? This. An object? "Find" = an object? Yes. Is the LTPF relevant? Assume no. Is skydiving? No. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2470 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does the action involve another person? An object? The "find" object? Is the action typically done indoors? Outdoors? For work? For leisure? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2710 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does the action involve another person? An object? this. The "find" object? No. Is the action typically done indoors? This. Outdoors? For work? For leisure? This. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2477 Registered: 4-2010 |
Exercise relevant? Is the object electronic? Portable? Is the action typically done in a specific room? If so, [LTPF list of rooms in a house]? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2711 Registered: 9-2009 |
Exercise relevant? No. Is the object electronic? No. Portable? Yes. Is the action typically done in a specific room? Yope. If so, [LTPF list of rooms in a house]? I did it in the common wash room. **BLOOPER** Many do the action for work, though I didn't. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2483 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is this done at work? Does it involve washing up? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2719 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is this done at work? Can be. Does it involve washing up? No. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2514 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did you do this thing in the washroom for privacy? Acoustics relevant? Did it require water? Soap? Paper towels? Toilet paper? Any other item in the washroom? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2732 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did you do this thing in the washroom for privacy? No. Acoustics relevant? No. Did it require water? Soap? Paper towels? Toilet paper? No to all. Any other item in the washroom? Yes. Clarification: by washroom I mean laundry room, not bathroom/shower. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2518 Registered: 4-2010 |
Whoops. Did it require laundry detergent? A towel? Is the act washing something? Drying something? Your clothes? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2735 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did it require laundry detergent? A towel? Is the act washing something? Drying something? Your clothes? No to all. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2521 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the action involve carrying something? Is the item required a laundry basket? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2738 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did the action involve carrying something? Is the item required a laundry basket? No to both. It's not that relevant that I did it in the laundry room, other people do it in very different places. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2524 Registered: 4-2010 |
Size of the room relevant? Relevant that it's a common washroom? Are other people in the room when you do this? Do they help you do this? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2740 Registered: 9-2009 |
Size of the room relevant? No. Relevant that it's a common washroom? Yes. Are other people in the room when you do this? No. Do they help you do this? Noish. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2526 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are other people's things relevant? Their clothes? Their laundry? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2742 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are other people's things relevant? Yesish. Their clothes? Their laundry? No to both. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2529 Registered: 4-2010 |
Do you intend to do this thing alone? Do you want the help of others? Do the other people leave things behind in the washroom? Relevant? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2746 Registered: 9-2009 |
Do you intend to do this thing alone? Yes. Do you want the help of others? No. Do the other people leave things behind in the washroom? Relevant? Irr. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2534 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does the action involve lifting something? Heavy? Moving something? Heavy? Does it involve the washing machine? Dryer? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2750 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does the action involve lifting something? Heavy? Moving something? This. Heavy? Does it involve the washing machine? Dryer? No to all else. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2538 Registered: 4-2010 |
Do you move the item by pushing it? Pulling? Pulling something attached to it? Are pulleys relevant? Does it need to go up stairs? Down stairs? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2754 Registered: 9-2009 |
Do you move the item by pushing it? This... Pulling? Pulling something attached to it? And this. Are pulleys relevant? Does it need to go up stairs? Down stairs? No to the rest. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2542 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are you shaking the item? Does the item need to go from point A to point B? Will it stay at point B? Or return to its original location? Is the item being pushed along the floor? Is it larger than a microwave? Than a dryer? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2756 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are you shaking the item? No, but... Does the item need to go from point A to point B? Yes. Will it stay at point B? For the time being. Or return to its original location? Is the item being pushed along the floor? Is it larger than a microwave? Than a dryer? No to the rest. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2551 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does the item have a handle? Wheels? Are points A and B in the same room? Along a wall? The same wall? Are you lifting the item in order to move it? Is it difficult to keep the item balanced as you move it? Would it easily tip over/fall down if you didn't balance it? Do you need to keep the item balanced? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2769 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does the item have a handle? Wheels? No to both. Are points A and B in the same room? Along a wall? The same wall? Yes to all. Are you lifting the item in order to move it? Yope. Is it difficult to keep the item balanced as you move it? Would it easily tip over/fall down if you didn't balance it? Do you need to keep the item balanced? No to all. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2558 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are you tilting the item in order to move it? Is the object rectangular in shape? Are you tipping it over and over in order to move it along the wall? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2772 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are you tilting the item in order to move it? Irr. Is the object rectangular in shape? Partly. Are you tipping it over and over in order to move it along the wall? No. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2579 Registered: 4-2010 |
Do you push the item partway, then pull it? Vice versa? Do you switch several times along the wall? Or are you pushing/pulling simultaneously? Is it difficult because of the item itself? The floor? The wall? The shape of the item? Its weight? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2775 Registered: 9-2009 |
Do you push the item partway, then pull it? Vice versa? Do you switch several times along the wall? This. Or are you pushing/pulling simultaneously? Is it difficult because of the item itself? This. The floor? The wall? Something on the wall is also involved. The shape of the item? Thisish. Its weight? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2582 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the item tall? Wide? Large? Is the "something on the wall" a washing machine? Dryer? Shelf? Is it hanging on the wall? Attached to it? With nails? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2780 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the item tall? Wide? Large? No to all. Is the "something on the wall" a washing machine? Dryer? Shelf? No to all. Is it hanging on the wall? Attached to it? Yes to both. With nails? Irr. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2588 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the wall-thing sticking out from the wall? Flat against it? Is this item wide? Tall? Large? Is the item you're moving bigger than a microwave? Is it a microwave? Is it electronic? Does it have many parts? Does it move when in use? Is it a clock? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2784 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the wall-thing sticking out from the wall? Flat against it? This. Is this item wide? Tall? Large? Wide, not so tall, not so large. Is the item you're moving bigger than a microwave? Is it a microwave? Is it electronic? No to all. Does it have many parts? I'd say so. Does it move when in use? DYOD of "use". Is it a clock? No. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2592 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the moving item made of [LTPF list of materials]? Are the "many parts" made of the same material? Different ones? Is the wall item made of paper? Is it a poster? Banner? Calendar? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2789 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the moving item made of [LTPF list of materials]? Are the "many parts" made of the same material? Different ones? It's all metal. Is the wall item made of paper? Is it a poster? Banner? No to all. Calendar? Yesish. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2595 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does the wall item measure time? Is it a chart of some sort? Can the moving item be lifted? Did it require a lot of effort to move? Is it a tool of some sort? Would it normally be found in a laudry room? Another room? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2793 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does the wall item measure time? No, but... Is it a chart of some sort? I think it can be called a chart, yes. Can the moving item be lifted? Yes. Did it require a lot of effort to move? DYOD of effort. Is it a tool of some sort? No. Would it normally be found in a laudry room? Yes. Another room? Other versions of it, yes. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2601 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does the metal item measure something? Does it contain something? Detergent? Is the wall item made of [LTPF list of materials]? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2794 Registered: 9-2009 |
**BLOOPER** - the specific moving item would not normally be found in a private laundry room, only a shared one. | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2811 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does the metal item measure something? Does it contain something? Detergent? No to all. Is the wall item made of [LTPF list of materials]? Metal. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2618 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are coins relevant? Is either item a quarter? A bunch of quarters? Do you have to pay to use the laundry? Relevant? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2816 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are coins relevant? Is either item a quarter? A bunch of quarters? Do you have to pay to use the laundry? No, but... Relevant? No to the rest. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2622 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is either item relevant to turning on the washer? Dryer? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2820 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is either item relevant to turning on the washer? Dryer? No to both. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2626 Registered: 4-2010 |
Do you have to swipe an identification card to use the laundry? If not, something similar? Are only certain people allowed to use the laundry? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2825 Registered: 9-2009 |
Do you have to swipe an identification card to use the laundry? No. If not, something similar? Yes. Are only certain people allowed to use the laundry? Yes. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2632 Registered: 4-2010 |
Do you have to somehow identify yourself when using the laundry? Is either of the items your means of identification? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2829 Registered: 9-2009 |
Do you have to somehow identify yourself when using the laundry? Sort of, yes. Is either of the items your means of identification? Yes, except it belongs to someone else (mine is also present, but not involved). | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2636 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are you retrieving someone else's means of ID? Is the identification item the one on the wall? The moving item? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2832 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are you retrieving someone else's means of ID? Not retrieving, but... Is the identification item the one on the wall? The moving item? This. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2638 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are you moving their means of ID? Is it supposed to be where it is? Where you're moving it to? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2835 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are you moving their means of ID? Yes! Is it supposed to be where it is? Yes. Where you're moving it to? Noish. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2641 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does the owner of the ID want it moved? Are you doing it to annoy him? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2840 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does the owner of the ID want it moved? No. Are you doing it to annoy him? No, that's not my goal. I move several ones, but only the ones that would annoy the owners the least. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2646 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are you moving it to make a path? To clear room on the floor? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2842 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are you moving it to make a path? To clear room on the floor? No to both. They're small and sit on the thing on the wall. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2650 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are you changing the order of the IDs? To make it easier to tell whose is whose? To put them in a certain order? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2845 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are you changing the order of the IDs? Yesish. To make it easier to tell whose is whose? To put them in a certain order? Because I can. The find led me to believe doing this would be easy, and hopefully the owners are not angry about it. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2653 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are you moving several IDs? Are they lockers? Locker keys? Something else? Is it difficult because there are more than you thought? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2847 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are you moving several IDs? Yes. Are they lockers? Locker keys? No to both, but OTRT! Something else? Yes... Is it difficult because there are more than you thought? No. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2656 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are the items keys? Keycards? Do they unlock something? The washer/dryer? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2850 Registered: 9-2009 |
Are the items keys? No, but OTRT. Keycards? No. Do they unlock something? No, but... The washer/dryer? No. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2658 Registered: 4-2010 |
Do the items have a use other than identification? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2851 Registered: 9-2009 |
Do the items have a use other than identification? Yes, in combination with the attached-to-the-wall item. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2660 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the attached-to-wall item used for storage? Does it contain something? Do the IDs lock something? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2854 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is the attached-to-wall item used for storage? Noish. Does it contain something? The IDs. Do the IDs lock something? They lock themselves to the wall thingie. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2665 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did you have to unlock, then relock, the IDs to the wall thingy? Do the IDs require a code to unlock? A password? A key? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2857 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did you have to unlock, then relock, the IDs to the wall thingy? Indeed. Do the IDs require a code to unlock? A password? A key? This. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2675 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was your find the key? Does the key work for all the IDs? Or do you need different keys for each ID? Which you didn't have? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2866 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was your find the key? I do have the key to my own lock only. Does the key work for all the IDs? Yesish. Or do you need different keys for each ID? Yesish. Which you didn't have? Correct. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2677 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does your key work in the other locks? Did you find the keys for the other locks? Were they labelled? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2869 Registered: 9-2009 |
Does your key work in the other locks? Yesish. Did you find the keys for the other locks? Were they labelled? No to the rest. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2681 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did your key open the other locks? Did the locks open, but fail to release the IDs? Did you try your key in the other locks? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2872 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did your key open the other locks? Yes, but... Did the locks open, but fail to release the IDs? The locks are the "IDs" pretty much. The wall thing is a calendar board, with holes where you can attach a lock with your apartment number to book a washing time. Did you try your key in the other locks? Yes, but there's more to it. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2685 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the intent to change the order of washing times? Were you able to do so? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2877 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was the intent to change the order of washing times? Yope. Were you able to do so? Yes. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2710 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the intent to get yourself a washing time? A better one? Were you able to do so? Did it take you a long time to do this? Did anyone see you while you were messing with the IDs? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2892 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was the intent to get yourself a washing time? A better one? No to both. Were you able to do so? I could if I would. That probably would piss people off though. Did it take you a long time to do this? No. Did anyone see you while you were messing with the IDs? No. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2715 Registered: 4-2010 |
Were you trying to arrange the IDs in a particular order? The correct one? Does the order have anything to do with washing times? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2896 Registered: 9-2009 |
Were you trying to arrange the IDs in a particular order? No. The correct one? FA. Does the order have anything to do with washing times? Yes. This part is already solved - I was unlocking other people's locks. My own key was involved, nobody else's. I moved them essentially for fun/as proof that I could. I only moved bookings for times that had been used recently, not for times to be used in the near future, so as to not piss off anyone. How did I do this, and what did I find that made me believe it would be easy to do? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2717 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is there a correct order? Did you have another key with you? A copy of the key? Did your find help you open the locks? Was the find a key? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2899 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is there a correct order? No. Did you have another key with you? A copy of the key? No to both. Did your find help you open the locks? Indirectly. Was the find a key? No, but close. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2722 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the find enable you to believe that your key would open the locks? Was it a lock? And your key worked in it? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2906 Registered: 9-2009 |
Did the find enable you to believe that your key would open the locks? Yes! Was it a lock? Yope! And your key worked in it? No. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2729 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the find a diagram of some sort? Of the keys? Locks? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2910 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was the find a diagram of some sort? No, but very close. Of the keys? Locks? this. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2733 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was it the blueprint of the locks? Something that showed their interior? A picture? An X-ray picture? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2913 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was it the blueprint of the locks? No. Something that showed their interior? Yes indeed. A picture? An X-ray picture? Even better than any of the above. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 2736 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was it an opened-up lock? A broken lock? A lock in production? A lock where you could see the interior? Half of a lock? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 2914 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was it an opened-up lock? A broken lock? A lock in production? A lock where you could see the interior? Half of a lock? This, pretty much. ***SPOILER*** I found a cylinder that had fallen out of a cheap bike lock at work. I found out that: 1. The locking "pins" extend to both sides of the cylinder. 2. The default position is that they stick out on alternating sides 3. The locks are cheaply made with wide tolerances. I realized that by twisting the key in the lock while raking the key in and out, I could make the pins catch and align pretty easily. It worked on about half of the locks I tried it on, so I moved some of them around for fun. |
