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Posted on Saturday, September 25, 2010 - 9:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

He said his father told him, so it was true.
I figured he wasn't lying, but he just misunderstood.
I told him what he said.
He laughed in my face.
"He's an idiot and his father too!" he said.
I shook my head. Men were so stubborn!
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I = you (Kaylee)? He = HAM? All "he"'s the same? If not, how many people (other than you) are in this one? 2? 3?

I'm thinking it goes like this (numbers represent the different people) - correct me where mistaken:

He (1) said his (1) father told him (1), so it was true.
I figured he (1) wasn't lying, but he (1) just misunderstood.
I told him (2) what he (1) said.
He (2) laughed in my face.
"He's (1) an idiot and his (1) father too!" he (2) said.
I shook my head. Men were so stubborn!


(Yes, we do tend to be stubborn, don't we?)

Was "it" true? False? An urban legend?
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I = you (Kaylee)? Indeed so. He = HAM? Yes. All "he"'s the same? No.If not, how many people (other than you) are in this one? 2? Me and 2 HAM's. 3?

I'm thinking it goes like this (numbers represent the different people) - correct me where mistaken:

He (1) said his (1) father told him (1), so it was true.
I figured he (1) wasn't lying, but he (1) just misunderstood.
I told him (2) what he (1) said.
He (2) laughed in my face.
"He's (1) an idiot and his (1) father too!" he (2) said.
I shook my head. Men were so stubborn! Accurate on all counts!

(Yes, we do tend to be stubborn, don't we?) Yes, lol. *wink*

Was "it" true? No, at least not in the way HAM 1 understood it. Metaphorically, in the way his father meant it, yes. False? Literally false.An urban legend? I wouldn't call it that.
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All right, let's call HAM 1 Zach and HAM 2 Nate. Sound good?

Did what his father tell him involve helpful advice? Something about men? Women? Could this be considered a scrund?
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All right, let's call HAM 1 Zach and HAM 2 Nate. Sound good? Sure, although their names are Ron and Ernest in real life. But I'll go with Zach and Nate, just to amuse myself.

Did what his father tell him involve helpful advice? I'm sure Frank (Zach/Ron's father) intended it as helpful/useful advice.
Something about men? No, OTWT
Women? No, OTWT
Could this be considered a scrund? Very much so, LOL.
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Was the advice along the lines of "if in this situation, do this"? Was the advice intended for use around the house? For fixing something? Is the advice intended for relationships? For emergencies?
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Was the advice along the lines of "if in this situation, do this"? No
Was the advice intended for use around the house? No
For fixing something? No
Is the advice intended for relationships? No
For emergencies? No

I think I accidentally introduced an FA here. The "advice" is more of a saying common to Frank's profession (or rather, his father's profession, though Frank was involved with it in his youth)
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Is the profession done indoors? Outdoors? Is the law involved? Medicine? Engineering? Murphy's Law relevant?
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Is the profession done indoors? You might say this...
Outdoors? but this as well.
Is the law involved? No
Medicine? No
Engineering? No
Murphy's Law relevant? No
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Is Frank's profession related to food?
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Is Frank's profession related to food? Yes, a specific class of foods.
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To fruits? Vegetables? Dairy? Fish? Meat? Snacks? Candy? Condiments? Grains?
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To fruits?
Vegetables?
Dairy? This. No to rest; it was a dairy farm. I'm not sure if the location of said farm is the reason for the scrund's origin; it was in a different place than my father (HAM 1, Ron, here Zach) grew up in.
Fish?
Meat?
Snacks?
Candy?
Condiments?
Grains?
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Was the scrund about milking cows? Was it about milk? Cheese? Butter?
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Was the scrund about milking cows?
Was it about milk? This.
Cheese?
Butter?
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Was it about how healthy milk is? A purported benefit of drinking milk? Whole milk vs. skim milk (or some other type of milk) relevant? Or soy milk? Lactaid milk?
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Was it about how healthy milk is?
A purported benefit of drinking milk? This is closest, though believing the thing was a benefit is part of the scrund. No to rest.
Whole milk vs. skim milk (or some other type of milk) relevant?
Or soy milk?
Lactaid milk?
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Is it about drinking milk versus other drinks?
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Is it about drinking milk versus other drinks?Well...The saying is, I think, yesishly about that...there is a benefit to dairy farmers when people drink milk. The scrund is very much about that, as Zach/Ron (my father) assumed that something in the milk was physically beneficial.
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Was the benefit just to dairy farmers? Or to other people as well?
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Was the benefit just to dairy farmers? Or to other people as well?

The benefit my grandfather learned about (from his father, who ran the farm) was only for dairy farmers. The scrund my father developed made it seem like the "benefit" (for svv of benefit) was for everyone who drank milk.
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Was it a cost benefit? A health benefit?
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Was it a cost benefit? This, for the real meaning of the phrase. The benefit was that there was money to be made, though that was not the exact wording. If it had been, there would have been no scrund...

A health benefit? This, for the svv "benefit" my father assumed. I doubt many people would actually see it as a health benefit, were it true, but he did.
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Pasteurization relevant?
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Pasteurization relevant? Not in the least. Total OTWT.
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Selling milk relevant? Is the "benefit" that it's better to drink milk straight from the cow? Or "organic" milk?
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Selling milk relevant? To the saying but not the scrund
Is the "benefit" that it's better to drink milk straight from the cow? No
Or "organic" milk?No
The saying had the form "There's ___ in milk" which my dad, Ron (who we planned on calling Zach) took literally. My maternal grandfather Ernest (called "Nate" in the puzzle) was HAM 2.
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There's cash in milk? Money in milk? Health in milk?
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There's cash in milk?
Money in milk? This is closest.
Health in milk?
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Value in milk?
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Value in milk? This was the intended meaning no doubt. But still not the actual wording. HINT: What are other words for money? (No actual denominations relevant)
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Bucks? Moolah? Greenbacks? Salary? Dollars? Euros? Is the slang term also a food item? A food-related item?
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Bucks?
Moolah?
Greenbacks?
Salary?
Dollars? Denominations are irrelevant
Euros? Denominations are irrelevant. I may be wrong but I'm fairly sure the Euro wasn't around in the 1950's when my father was growing up. I'm *really* sure it wasn't around in the 1920's when my grandfather was. Also, my paternal grandfather was from Cheshire, in England.
Is the slang term also a food item? It's not what I'd call a slang term, either.
A food-related item? No. Everything is wrong.
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Is the word mainly used in England? America? I am going to kick myself once the answer comes out, won't I?
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Is the word mainly used in England? America? I am going to kick myself once the answer comes out, won't I?

You just might. It's a common element in both variations of the English language.
That was a HINT...
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Bills? Notes? Would this work for coins? Bills? Both?
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Bills? Notes? Would this work for coins? Bills? Both?

It would most definitely not work for bills, notes or coins. Remember, the saying is "There's ___ in milk." Also remember that my father took it literally. One can see that there are no "bills, notes or coins" in milk, lol.
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There's magic in milk?
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There's magic in milk?
No. And remember, I gave you "It's a common element in both variations of the English language" as a clue. Emphasis on element.
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Gold?
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Gold? Yes, precisely! The saying was "There's gold in milk", which my paternal grandfather undoubtedly learned from his father as a way to say "There's profit in dealing with milk". But my father took it literally, believing there was real gold in milk. I told my other grandfather about the conversation, and he reacted in just the way I related.

I really don't understand the men in my family. *Sigh*

Oh, and that's the ***SPOILER***

Thanks for sticking with me Balin!

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