| Author |
Message |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 2037 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2010 - 9:59 pm: |      |
Private Eye stole my joke. I was not best pleased. For puzzlers outside the UK: Private Eye is a silly satirical magazine run by a bunch of overgrown schoolboys. Some say it's the only half-decent publication in the country. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 5598 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2010 - 10:16 pm: |      |
Joke - was it a one-liner? A joke that might be told by a comedian? A knock-knock joke? Dumb blonde joke? Yo' mama joke? Something that you made a lateral puzzle out of? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 2038 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2010 - 10:22 pm: |      |
Joke - was it a one-liner? yes, pretty much A joke that might be told by a comedian? sure: a bad comedian, maybe ... after all, this was me A knock-knock joke? no Dumb blonde joke? no Yo' mama joke? no Something that you made a lateral puzzle out of? well, it seems I just did. This may turn out to be an even worse idea than the joke itself, but we shall see ... |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 5605 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2010 - 10:30 pm: |      |
Was the joke a pun? Does the joke require any specialized knowledge of the UK? Anything about the magazine relevant? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 2039 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2010 - 10:36 pm: |      |
Was the joke a pun? hmmm ... yes, sort of, I suppose Does the joke require any specialized knowledge of the UK? not at all Anything about the magazine relevant? not this either |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 5607 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2010 - 10:40 pm: |      |
Does the joke involve any sort of wordplay? Anagrams? Homophones? Homonyms? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 2040 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2010 - 10:45 pm: |      |
Does the joke involve any sort of wordplay? yes, but nothing technical Anagrams? no Homophones? no Homonyms? this is closest ... Wikipedia tells me that 'polysemes' is a better word. Good old Wikipedia. :-) |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 5609 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, October 01, 2010 - 10:50 pm: |      |
So words with multiple meanings, correct? Can the word be used as a noun? Verb? Adverb? Adjective? Pronoun? Conjunction? Interjection? Preposition? Article? Is the word in the joke literally used as a [LTPF list of parts of speech]? Is the word, in the "pun," used as a [LTPF list of parts of speech]? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma
Post Number: 512 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, October 02, 2010 - 8:06 am: |      |
Is it correct to assume that in order to solve your puzzle, the following must be determined: 1. How they stole your joke? 2. Why were you not best pleased? 3. What was the joke? Assuming so: Did they steal it in the sense that they used a joke you knew? Were you not pleased because they used it incorrectly? Or not in a funny manner? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 2041 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2010 - 2:06 pm: |      |
So words with multiple meanings, correct? Can the word be used as a noun? Verb? Adverb? Adjective? Pronoun? Conjunction? Interjection? Preposition? Article? Is the word in the joke literally used as a [LTPF list of parts of speech]? Is the word, in the "pun," used as a [LTPF list of parts of speech]? the joke rests on one noun with two slightly different meanings, but this might not be the easiest way in to the puzzle Is it correct to assume that in order to solve your puzzle, the following must be determined: 1. How they stole your joke? 2. Why were you not best pleased? 3. What was the joke? To be honest, just finding out the joke itself will do fine. It was a schoolboyish joke I made in a particular context, and it so happened that the magazine ran this joke in its next issue. Assuming so: Did they steal it in the sense that they used a joke you knew? Were you not pleased because they used it incorrectly? Or not in a funny manner? No: just a bit peeved that the magazine got credit for it when I'd thought of it first. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 5650 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2010 - 7:25 pm: |      |
Schoolboyish...is this puzzle rated G? Was the joke in response to a relevant statement? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 2046 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2010 - 7:32 pm: |      |
Schoolboyish...is this puzzle rated G? hmmm ... almost. Maybe a hint of PG, but really the sort of joke a twelve-year-old might make Was the joke in response to a relevant statement? yes, for svv of 'statement' |
Kaygee (Kaygee)
New member Username: Kaygee
Post Number: 549 Registered: 9-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, October 03, 2010 - 11:38 pm: |      |
Is the title relevant? Was your joke about death? Or are you referring to how both jokes bombed at about the same time? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 2050 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 7:57 am: |      |
Is the title relevant? yes, very Was your joke about death? not specifically about death, but ... Or are you referring to how both jokes bombed at about the same time? hahah, nice thinking, and rather funnier than the original joke |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 5677 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 1:11 pm: |      |
Was the joke about murder? Sickness? The afterlife? Life? Zombies? Graveyards? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 2054 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 1:20 pm: |      |
Was the joke about murder? no Sickness? no The afterlife? no Life? not really, except in that most jokes are about life in some way or other Zombies? no ... nothing macabre like this Graveyards? no ... not what you'd call a particularly 'sick' joke, except perhaps on account of the timing
|
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 5682 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 1:23 pm: |      |
Did the joke involve death? Familial relations? Mothers-in-law? Chuck Norris? Lawyers? Dumb blondes? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 2056 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 1:30 pm: |      |
Did the joke involve death? no, not at all, it just happens that ... Familial relations? no Mothers-in-law? no Chuck Norris? no Lawyers? no Dumb blondes? no |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 5688 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 1:35 pm: |      |
Does someone die in the joke? Does the person telling the joke die? Does the one to whom the joke is being told die? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 2057 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 1:47 pm: |      |
Does someone die in the joke? No, but finding out about the deaths is what prompts the joke. The joke isn't about death at all. Does the person telling the joke die? well, I'm still here Does the one to whom the joke is being told die? er, I hope not ... unlike the one in the Monty Python sketch, this is not the funniest joke in the world :-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gpjk_MaCGM
|
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 5697 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 4:16 pm: |      |
Is the joke about a famous person? Who recently died? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 2063 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 4:33 pm: |      |
Is the joke about a famous person? yes! actually more than one Who recently died? at the time I made the joke, yes |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 5704 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 8:54 pm: |      |
Did you make the joke in the 2000s? This past year? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 2072 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 9:05 pm: |      |
Did you make the joke in the 2000s? This past year? neither: it's a venerable joke of 1993 vintage. I recalled it when reading Rbruma's puzzle about people who died on the same day as JFK. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 5712 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 9:13 pm: |      |
Did these two people die on the same day? In 1993? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 2074 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 9:19 pm: |      |
Did these two people die on the same day? In 1993? exactly so |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 362 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 9:23 pm: |      |
On the same day: the...1-31 of: January? February? March? April? May? June? July? August? September? October? November? December? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 5717 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 9:28 pm: |      |
On a punt: Is one of them Andre the Giant? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 2077 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 9:39 pm: |      |
[LTPF list of dates] ... aw, I'm not just going to give you the exact date just like that. I was rather hoping you'd have ... er ... an epiphany? ;-) On a punt: Is one of them Andre the Giant? no! nor yet Richard Mortensen, the Danish painter :-) |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 365 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 9:42 pm: |      |
Well, I was only eight in 1993 and don't really know who died then...epiphanies of a third grader's mind don't seem to mean much...the only sense I had of a larger world than my hometown was that Bill Clinton was President. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 5722 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 9:43 pm: |      |
Seeing as Rbruma's puzzle experiment involved Nov 22, did these two people die on Nov 22? Are they HAM? HAF? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 2081 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 10:00 pm: |      |
Well, I was only eight in 1993 and don't really know who died then...epiphanies of a third grader's mind don't seem to mean much...the only sense I had of a larger world than my hometown was that Bill Clinton was President See below ... Seeing as Rbruma's puzzle experiment involved Nov 22, did these two people die on Nov 22? no, but they did die on 6 January Are they HAM? both this HAF? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 5730 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 10:03 pm: |      |
Wikipedia gives Dizzy Gillespie, Richard Mortensen, and Rudolf Nureyev - since you eliminated Mortensen, the other two, then? Relevant that one was a jazz musician; the other, a dancer? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 2083 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 10:07 pm: |      |
Wikipedia gives Dizzy Gillespie, Richard Mortensen, and Rudolf Nureyev - since you eliminated Mortensen, the other two, then? Relevant that one was a jazz musician; the other, a dancer? YES! So, what joke might an overgrown schoolboy like me (or the editor of Private Eye) make about Rudolf and Dizzy? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 5733 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 10:13 pm: |      |
Something about Rudolf dancing to the jazz music and him becoming Dizzy? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 2085 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 10:15 pm: |      |
Something about Rudolf dancing to the jazz music and him becoming Dizzy? hehe, no |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 5735 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 10:18 pm: |      |
Wild guess: That Rudolf would rather be dancing to Dizzy's jazz music than the harps of heaven? The other way round? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 2086 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 10:20 pm: |      |
Wild guess: That Rudolf would rather be dancing to Dizzy's jazz music than the harps of heaven? The other way round? I'm sure he would, and so would I, but this isn't it |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 5737 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 10:22 pm: |      |
Does the joke mention Rudolf dancing? Dizzy playing? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 2088 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 10:24 pm: |      |
Does the joke mention Rudolf dancing? Dizzy playing? Neither, as such. But the latter is relevant ... |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 5739 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 10:26 pm: |      |
Does the joke involve a pun on either of their names? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 2092 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 10:40 pm: |      |
Does the joke involve a pun on either of their names? no |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 5749 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 10:43 pm: |      |
Is anything other than their professions related to the joke? Perhaps their home countries? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 2094 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 10:48 pm: |      |
Is anything other than their professions related to the joke? yes .. other attributes their home countries? but not this at all |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 2932 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2010 - 11:50 pm: |      |
Got to be a pun on Dizzy's legendary inflating cheeks. Did you say something like "Dizzy had some cheek to die on the same day as Nureyev"? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 2095 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 8:49 am: |      |
Got to be a pun on Dizzy's legendary inflating cheeks. yes ... Did you say something like "Dizzy had some cheek to die on the same day as Nureyev"? ... but rather a reference to Rudolf's legendary tight-fitting ballet pants: *** SPOILER *** Private Eye employs a spoof 'poet' called E.J.Thribb, who has been seventeen (and a half) for the last forty years. He tends to be wheeled out every time someone famous dies. On this occasion his contribution was: So farewell then Dizzy Gillespie. You were known for Your bulging cheeks. And farewell Rudolf Nureyev. So were You. Terrible, I know, but Rbruma's puzzle about people dying on the same day as JFK reminded me, and I couldn't resist. Thanks everyone. |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 2934 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 10:25 am: |      |
Ha Ha I like it . |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 5773 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 12:11 pm: |      |
Hee hee...would never have come up with that, but that's great. |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 2935 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 1:11 pm: |      |
I know you weren't pleased they pinched your joke but I think you should turn the other cheek!! |