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Author Message It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 684 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 1:48 pm:        A timber named measuring device. The goal is to find the words that fill in the sentence by finding words that are related or synonyms for the words in red. In this case, there are intermediate stages. The words will go from red to orange to green to blue, with blue being the final word. Take a look at my previous puzzle "Degrees of Separation" to see how this works. Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1871 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 2:00 pm:        Timber = wood? tree? plank? Measuring device = cup? spoon? ruler? yardstick? scale? If none of the above, does it measure length? volume? mass/weight? incidentally...I'm not normally one to care what puzzle types are called, but in this case I think "multi-tiered Idiomuzzle" could be confusing since this type of puzzle seems to have one major difference from idiomuzzles. In idiomuzzles, the black words are irrelevant except as separation between the words that matter. In this type of puzzle (at least, in Degrees of Separation, and I'm assuming this one too), the black words are very important because they're part of the final answer. That's a big difference. To me, calling this an idiomuzzle could cause confusion over how the two types of puzzles are solved or hosted. "Multi-tiered _____" makes sense to me, though. I'm just not sure that Idiomuzzle is the right word for the blank. It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 687 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 2:16 pm:        Timber = wood? tree? plank? I think wood and tree are generally what this word refers to in the context used, but that is not the word you seek. Measuring device = cup? spoon? ruler? This! yardstick? scale? If none of the above, does it measure length? volume? mass/weight? A timber named ruler. As far as the name, thanks for the feedback. I was looking for an idiomuzzle to compare, because I've never worked on one and only vaguely recollect how they work, but I couldn't find any. Do you know where one is located? Maybe "Multi-tiered substitution"? I seem to remember "substitution puzzle" being an existing puzzle type, though. Hm...maybe that's part of the puzzle too. Figure out what the puzzle is called. Peter365 (Peter365) New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2957 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 2:33 pm:        Timber - Lumber? Log? Ruler - King? Empreror? Emir? Prince? President? Governor? Queen? Dictator? To be honest I don't think the name of this puzzle type is that important as long as you use the explanatory paragraph at the start (which is very clear I might add)| It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 691 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 2:37 pm:        Timber - Lumber? Log? It's not these. In this case, it's not a synonym. Ruler - King? Empreror? Emir? Prince? President? Governor? Queen? Dictator? This, but that's not the next word. Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1874 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 2:53 pm:        there are some in the solved puzzle section. Here's one that includes the "rules" http://www.lateralpuzzles.com/discus/messages/2928/20185.html Timber rhymes with Limber? It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 692 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 2:56 pm:        Timber rhymes with Limber? no...well, yes, it does, but no ;) thanks! I'll take a look! Peter365 (Peter365) New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 2958 Registered: 1-2007 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 3:02 pm:        Relevant that Lumberjacks shout "Timber" as a tree is falling? So could we have something like Timber - Warning ? It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 693 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 3:06 pm:        Relevant that Lumberjacks shout "Timber" as a tree is falling? So could we have something like Timber - Warning ? Good thinking, but no Galfisk (Galfisk) New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3444 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 3:11 pm:        Timber as in lumber? If so, is a specific species relevant? Or is timbre relevant? Ruler: Czar? Khan? Other synonym? Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6388 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 3:12 pm:        Are we looking for a name of a dictator? Hitler? Stalin? Caesar? Timber - land? (As in the company)? It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 694 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 3:17 pm:        Timber as in lumber? If so, is a specific species relevant? Or is timbre relevant? no to all, but OTRT with "species" Ruler: Czar? Khan? Other synonym? no Are we looking for a name of a dictator? Hitler? Stalin? Caesar? this! Full name, though. Timber - land? (As in the company)? no, but OTRT as far as how the words are related A timber named Julius Caesar. Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1879 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 3:21 pm:        Julius Caesar - the salad dressing? the salad? a victim of assassination? the Shakespeare play? Timber - wolf? rattlesnake? Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6393 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 3:22 pm:        Julius Caesar: Roman? Italy? Calendar? Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1880 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 3:24 pm:        Along the lines of the Shakespeare play... Julius Caesar = tragedy? It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 695 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 3:42 pm:        Julius Caesar - the salad dressing? the salad? a victim of assassination? the Shakespeare play? this! "Shakespeare" is what I was looking for. Timber - wolf? yes! rattlesnake? A wolf named Shakespeare. Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6403 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 3:44 pm:        Wolf - boy who cried wolf? Werewolf? Wolfman? Teen Wolf? It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 696 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 3:45 pm:        Wolf - boy who cried wolf? Werewolf? Wolfman? Teen Wolf? no to all Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6404 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 3:48 pm:        Are we looking for a type of wolf? Name of a wolf? Howl? Howling at the moon? Or the most random guess ever - White Wolf of Icicle Creek (a Nancy Drew game)? It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 697 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 3:54 pm:        Are we looking for a type of wolf? no, but types are relevant Name of a wolf? Howl? Howling at the moon? Or the most random guess ever - White Wolf of Icicle Creek (a Nancy Drew game)? no to rest Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6407 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 3:55 pm:        Gray wolf? It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 698 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 4:06 pm:        Gray wolf? nope...think about how the first word related to the second word Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6408 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 4:07 pm:        Timber wolf...maybe wolfhound...then hound dog? It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 700 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 4:17 pm:        Timber wolf...maybe wolfhound...then hound dog? No, but OTRT Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6412 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 4:19 pm:        Wolf...wolfsbane? It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 702 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 4:21 pm:        Wolf...wolfsbane? nope Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin) New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 649 Registered: 9-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 4:21 pm:        "As for monkshood and wolfsbane, they are the same plant, which also goes by the name of aconite. Well? Why aren't you all writing this down?" (haha Balin, couldn't resist) Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6413 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 7:22 pm:        Wolf in sheep's clothing? It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 705 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 7:35 pm:        Wolf in sheep's clothing? no. Feel free to ask intermediate yes/no questions to help you out Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6423 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 7:37 pm:        Is "wolf" the first part of a two-word phrase? Of a phrase? Is it part of a phrase, period? Wolf pack? It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 706 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 7:41 pm:        Is "wolf" the first part of a two-word phrase? yes, svv of "phrase" Of a phrase? yes Is it part of a phrase, period? yes-ish Wolf pack? no, but it is a "phrase" like this Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6425 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 7:43 pm:        Is the second word a noun? Verb? Adjective? Adverb? [LTPF list of parts of speech]? It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 707 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 7:43 pm:        Is the second word a noun? yes Verb? Adjective? Adverb? [LTPF list of parts of speech]? Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6427 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 7:46 pm:        The only thing I can think of right now is "wolf at your door", but that's not two words.... Visconti (Visconti) New member Username: Visconti Post Number: 236 Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 8:02 pm:        wolf cub? wolfman jack? wolf wolf? wolfenstein? wolf blitzer? (Oh, man, I hope it's this.) It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 709 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 8:07 pm:        The only thing I can think of right now is "wolf at your door", but that's not two words.... wolf cub? wolfman jack? wolf wolf? wolfenstein? wolf blitzer? (Oh, man, I hope it's this.) haha, none of these, unfortunately. To point you in the right direction, I will say that "Timber" was a type of "wolf", and "wolf" is a type of "x". Visconti (Visconti) New member Username: Visconti Post Number: 237 Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 8:09 pm:        canine? It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 710 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 8:12 pm:        canine? no, less literal, just like "timber" isn't, by itself, a wolf Ixoye724 (Ixoye724) New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2860 Registered: 1-2001 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 8:28 pm:        spider? It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 711 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 8:57 pm:        spider? yes! A spider named Shakespeare. Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin) New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 650 Registered: 9-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 9:08 pm:        William? (Judith? Hamnet? Susanna? Anne Hathaway No, not THAT one...) Bard? Stratford? Globe? It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 713 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 9:12 pm:        William? If you're referring to Shakespeare, yes, that is correct. Blue is final, though, so you're actually looking for the green in this one, although that's different from my last one of these. Sorry for the confusion. (Judith? Hamnet? Susanna? Anne Hathaway No, not THAT one...) Bard? Stratford? Globe? Ixoye724 (Ixoye724) New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2861 Registered: 1-2001 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 9:17 pm:        spider...monkey? Visconti (Visconti) New member Username: Visconti Post Number: 240 Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 9:38 pm:        Put enough monkeys in a room with a typewriter they'll produce Shakespeare. Eh? Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1894 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 2:01 am:        spider = weaver? types of spiders: orb? recluse? widow? Or is it spider ____? Spider man? a man named shakespeare? It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 714 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 2:03 am:        Indeed! ********SPOILER********** A monkey named Shakespeare. This, as guessed, refers to the infinite monkey theory of probability. The word path: Timber = Wolf = spider = monkey Timber is a type of wolf, wolf is a type of spider, spider is a type of monkey. Measuring device = ruler = Julius Caesar = Shakeaspeare A ruler is a type of measuring device, Julius Caesar was a ruler, and also a tragedy by William Shakespeare. Good job all, and thanks for playing. I know it's kind of a crazy puzzle type. It_so_happened (It_so_happened) New member Username: It_so_happened Post Number: 715 Registered: 5-2010 Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 2:04 am:        Sorry, just missed you there, Noel! Noel (Noel) New member Username: Noel Post Number: 1899 Registered: 7-2009 Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 2:21 am:        No problem. I enjoy these puzzles. Neat idea! Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 6479 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 1:00 pm:        I like these too - nice one! Ixoye724 (Ixoye724) New member Username: Ixoye724 Post Number: 2864 Registered: 1-2001 Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 3:31 pm:        Good one, I'm getting used to these now.