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Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma
Post Number: 779 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 7:05 pm: |      |
This is my first attempt at a connections type puzzle, so please bear with me... Here it goes: What links together: a. a sunflower b. the town of Strasbourg and (of course) c. a certain Mr. Koch ? Googling and praying are of course not only allowed but even encouraged. I use them both |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Post Number: 924 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 7:07 pm: |      |
Gregoryuconn aka Gregory Koch/Kotch/Coke/our Mr. Koch? :-D |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 780 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 7:12 pm: |      |
Gregoryuconn aka Gregory Koch/Kotch/Coke/our Mr. Koch? :-D Not this time, no |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Post Number: 925 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 7:31 pm: |      |
Pity...but maybe that's for the best, he's been getting a lot of attention lately, lol. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 7211 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 7:46 pm: |      |
Koch - H? A? M? Profession relevant? Strasbourg - the town in France? History of the town relevant? Something about the culture? Sports relevant? Sunflower - the flower? A specific type of sunflower? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 2240 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 7:46 pm: |      |
Well, before I resort to God & Google, let me throw out what little I know about sunflowers, Strasbourg and Kochs: a. The sunflowers painted by Mr V. van Gogh (pronounced a bit like Koch, except in America)? Girasole in Sardinia? The Jerusalem artichoke? b. Relevant that Strasbourg stands on the Ill? That its cathedral has an asymmetric spire? c. Running out of Kochs, but ... wiki sometimes throws up treasures like this lovely defence of weightlessness: The Waste Land gave the time’s most accurate data, It seemed, and Eliot was the Great Dictator Of literature. One hardly dared to wink Or fool around in any way in poems, And critics poured out awful jereboams To irony, ambiguity, and tension – And other things I do not wish to mention. [Kenneth Koch, pronounced Coke] Is this your man? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 782 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 8:01 pm: |      |
Koch - H? A? M? Profession relevant? Yes to all Strasbourg - the town in France? Yes History of the town relevant? Yes Something about the culture? Sports relevant? No to both Sunflower - the flower? Yes, I believe so anyway A specific type of sunflower? I don't think so Well, before I resort to God & Google, let me throw out what little I know about sunflowers, Strasbourg and Kochs: Impressive, to say the least... a. The sunflowers painted by Mr V. van Gogh (pronounced a bit like Koch, except in America)? No, and unfortunately nothing related to this extraordinary artist is relevant Girasole in Sardinia? No The Jerusalem artichoke? Not this either b. Relevant that Strasbourg stands on the Ill? That its cathedral has an asymmetric spire? No to both c. Running out of Kochs, but ... wiki sometimes throws up treasures like this lovely defence of weightlessness: The Waste Land gave the time’s most accurate data, It seemed, and Eliot was the Great Dictator Of literature. One hardly dared to wink Or fool around in any way in poems, And critics poured out awful jereboams Is this a typo or just my bad English / lack of culture? To irony, ambiguity, and tension – And other things I do not wish to mention. [Kenneth Koch, pronounced Coke] Is this your man? Sadly, no |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 7223 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 8:05 pm: |      |
A jeroboam is a quadruple-sized wine bottle, named for the Biblical king. Is a characteristic of the sunflower relevant? A single specific sunflower? Is Koch's profession related to media? Sports? Crime? Law? Government? Strasbourg - date of founding relevant? A historical event involving the town? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 783 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 8:12 pm: |      |
A jeroboam is a quadruple-sized wine bottle, named for the Biblical king. That was also my impression, I was just surprised to see it spelled 'jereboam' Is a characteristic of the sunflower relevant? No A single specific sunflower? No. To clear up the confusion, we are looking for a piece of text involving sunflowers, so no actual living sunflower is relevant Is Koch's profession related to media? Sports? Crime? Law? Government? No to all Strasbourg - date of founding relevant? No A historical event involving the town? Yes! |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 7226 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 8:14 pm: |      |
Narrowing it down, did the Strasbourg event occur in [LTPF list of centuries]? Is Koch's profession related to education? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 785 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 8:20 pm: |      |
Narrowing it down, did the Strasbourg event occur in [LTPF list of centuries]? 9th Is Koch's profession related to education? This also, but not relevant |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 7232 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 8:25 pm: |      |
Oaths of Strasbourg? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 787 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 8:29 pm: |      |
Oaths of Strasbourg? Exactly! Now then... |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
New member Username: Woodworm
Post Number: 2245 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 8:30 pm: |      |
I think 'Jereboams' is a wordplay by Koch: a cross between the expected 'Jeremiads' and 'Jeroboams', earnest laments by champagne-swilling critics. I think it's wonderful. Ninth century events? Erk! I will now have to invoke G-d and Google, not necessarily in that order :-) |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 788 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 8:32 pm: |      |
think 'Jereboams' is a wordplay by Koch: a cross between the expected 'Jeremiads' and 'Jeroboams', earnest laments by champagne-swilling critics. I think it's wonderful. I see. Now it makes sense -- and poetry appears Ninth century events? Erk! I will now have to invoke G-d and Google, not necessarily in that order :-) Not necessary. Matt put us in the next level |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 7238 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 8:35 pm: |      |
So is the Oaths of Strasbourg the key, or needst we to go further? Charlemagne relevant? Is Koch a writer? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 2247 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 8:48 pm: |      |
Charles the Bald? Blake's sunflower? Another poem about a sunflower? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 789 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 8:55 pm: |      |
So is the Oaths of Strasbourg the key, or needst we to go further? You need to go further Charlemagne relevant? No Is Koch a writer? No, or not in a relevant way. The solution is much simpler and has been recently on the LPTF Charles the Bald? And Louis the German. But the key to moving forward is the 'oath' Blake's sunflower? Another poem about a sunflower? No to both |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 7250 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 8:57 pm: |      |
Robert Koch? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 791 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 9:10 pm: |      |
Robert Koch? That's our guy. Now moving further... Established by now: a. sunflower appearing in a text of some kind b. Strasbourg -> the Oath c. a certain Mr Koch -> Robert Koch
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Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 7253 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 9:16 pm: |      |
The "sunflower" text - an essay? A poem? A book? An article? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 793 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 9:17 pm: |      |
The "sunflower" text - an essay? A poem? A book? An article? No to all. I think a motto is closest |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 7256 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 9:19 pm: |      |
Sunflower seeds relevant? Would "slogan" work better? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 794 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 9:22 pm: |      |
Sunflower seeds relevant? No Would "slogan" work better? I am not sure. Maybe a nickname would work better |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 7260 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 9:23 pm: |      |
Robert Koch - anthrax relevant? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 795 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 9:25 pm: |      |
Robert Koch - anthrax relevant? No, but in the right forest |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 7263 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 9:31 pm: |      |
TB? |
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
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Post Number: 2982 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 9:32 pm: |      |
I'm sure this is way off, but... There's a character in the series 'The Tick' (which has appeared as an animated TV show but may also be in print somewhere) known as "El Seed" - he is a giant walking, talking sunflower who uses plants and plant-borne toxins to fight humans; the Strasbourg Oaths were a plan to prevent fighting in wars, and El Seed is one of many menaces whom The Tick prevents from starting a war where plant toxins would be used as a weapon; Koch did research on anthrax and bacteria, potential toxins used as weapons. I'm sure this is wayyyy off, if by some miracle it's actually correct I'll faint from the shock of it. |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 796 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 9:37 pm: |      |
TB? This! Now then... I'm sure this is way off, but... There's a character in the series 'The Tick' (which has appeared as an animated TV show but may also be in print somewhere) known as "El Seed" - he is a giant walking, talking sunflower who uses plants and plant-borne toxins to fight humans; the Strasbourg Oaths were a plan to prevent fighting in wars, and El Seed is one of many menaces whom The Tick prevents from starting a war where plant toxins would be used as a weapon; Koch did research on anthrax and bacteria, potential toxins used as weapons. I'm sure this is wayyyy off, if by some miracle it's actually correct I'll faint from the shock of it. No need to faint, it has nothing to do with my poor puzzle. But a nice piece of information and of lateral thinking |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 7266 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 9:42 pm: |      |
So we have... Sunflower -> some text (a "motto" or "nickname") Strasbourg -> The Oaths Koch -> Robert -> TB All good so far? TB vaccine relevant? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 797 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 9:46 pm: |      |
So we have... Sunflower -> some text (a "motto" or "nickname" This is closest I guess, for our American co-puzzlers.) Strasbourg -> The Oaths Koch -> Robert -> TB All good so far? With the observation above, yes TB vaccine relevant? No, nothing about Koch or vaccine is relevant any more -- only tuberculosis |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 798 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 10:09 pm: |      |
A short recap: a. sunflower appearing in a text of some kind ("nickname" is closest) b. Strasbourg -> the Oath c. a certain Mr Koch -> Robert Koch -> tuberculosis We have left around 4-5 levels of indirection for each hint. According to my calculations, point a should have been the first to be solved. Let's see
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Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 7280 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, October 21, 2010 - 11:57 pm: |      |
The Sunflower State? Kansas? Then maybe The Wizard of Oz? Wildcats? Jayhawks? (mascots of Kansas U and Kansas State) Chiefs? Royals? Another sports team? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 800 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 7:08 am: |      |
The Sunflower State? Yes! Kansas? This one but none of the rest Then maybe The Wizard of Oz? Wildcats? Jayhawks? (mascots of Kansas U and Kansas State) Chiefs? Royals? Another sports team? |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Post Number: 953 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 7:14 am: |      |
so...text with Kansas in it? A book? A newspaper? A magazine? A sign? a license plate? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 802 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 7:17 am: |      |
so...text with Kansas in it? No, FA. The nickname was the text. Now what matters is the state A book? A newspaper? A magazine? A sign? a license plate? So no to all of these |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Post Number: 955 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 7:23 am: |      |
Ok...Kansas. Hmm. Kansan (resident of Kansas) Motto: Ad astra per aspera (Through hardship to the stars) Capital: Topeka Kansas Territory (prior to statehood?) January 29, 1861 (34th state) KS (postal code)? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 803 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 7:26 am: |      |
Ok...Kansas. Hmm. Kansan (resident of Kansas) Motto: Ad astra per aspera (Through hardship to the stars) Capital: Topeka Kansas Territory (prior to statehood?) January 29, 1861 (34th state) KS (postal code)? No to all. A little bit more of ground work required |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Post Number: 958 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 7:46 am: |      |
Rats. It's quarter to midnight here on the Pacific coast, and I'm too tired for ground work. Also, I'm graduating from college tomorrow evening, and I'll be out and about most of the day. I bet someone will solve this when I'm not looking. Ah well, there's no place like home. Or bed. Or the LTPF. But between LTPF and bed right now, I choose bed. *yawn* Night, everyone. |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 806 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 7:50 am: |      |
Good night and have fun tomorrow. In this other part of the world the work day has just begun |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 7325 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 1:17 pm: |      |
Kansas - as setting in a work of literature? Or film? A phrase with the word "Kansas" in it? Wildest guess imaginable - the song "Kansasland" from the musical Curtains? Or another song involving Kansas? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 810 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 2:12 pm: |      |
Kansas - as setting in a work of literature? Or film? A phrase with the word "Kansas" in it? Wildest guess imaginable - the song "Kansasland" from the musical Curtains? Or another song involving Kansas? No to all, fiction is not involved here |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 7332 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 4:12 pm: |      |
Size of Kansas relevant? Neighboring states? Tornadoes? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 818 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 4:25 pm: |      |
Size of Kansas relevant? Neighboring states? Tornadoes? No to all |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 7344 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 4:27 pm: |      |
Kansas is mostly farmland relevant? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 819 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 6:51 pm: |      |
Kansas is mostly farmland relevant? No, but something from Kansas (more specifically from one of the counties is relevant} |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 7350 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 6:54 pm: |      |
Tuberculosis - symptoms relevant? Widespreadedness (I know that's not a word) of the disease? Vaccine? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 820 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 6:55 pm: |      |
Tuberculosis - symptoms relevant? Noish. No to rest Widespreadedness (I know that's not a word) of the disease? Vaccine? |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 7353 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 7:37 pm: |      |
A famous person with TB relevant? Causes of TB? |
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
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Post Number: 3003 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 7:41 pm: |      |
Dodge City, Kansas? Is Doc Holliday relevant? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 821 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 7:53 pm: |      |
A famous person with TB relevant? Yes! Finding this person is the next step in this chain Causes of TB? No Dodge City, Kansas? Is Doc Holliday relevant? No to both |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 7359 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 7:56 pm: |      |
Is the person a celebrity? Are they still alive? Were they alive in [LTPF list of centuries]? |
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
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Post Number: 3008 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 7:58 pm: |      |
Lyon County, KS? Did the person die from TB? Or just have it? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 822 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 8:06 pm: |      |
Is the person a celebrity? He is well known by some Are they still alive? Who are they? The person we are talking about is not Were they alive in [LTPF list of centuries]? Again, who are they? The person was alive in the 19th century Lyon County, KS? No, other county is relevant Did the person die from TB? Yes! Or just have it? So no |
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
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Post Number: 3011 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 8:11 pm: |      |
Douglas County, KS? James Naismith? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 823 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 8:14 pm: |      |
Douglas County, KS? James Naismith? No. To avoid a [LTPF list of KS counties] I will name it: Leavenworth |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 824 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, October 22, 2010 - 9:16 pm: |      |
Recap at the end of Day #2: a. sunflower -> Kansas -> Leavenworth county b. Strasbourg -> the Oath c. a certain Mr Koch -> Robert Koch -> tuberculosis -> one well known person who died from tuberculosis in the 19th century
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Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 7371 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 1:04 am: |      |
Is anything specific about Leavenworth county relevant? Or just its name? Leavenworth -> the prison? Or leavened bread? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 825 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 6:57 am: |      |
Is anything specific about Leavenworth county relevant? YES Or just its name? Leavenworth -> the prison? Or leavened bread? So no to the rest |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 7390 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 1:36 pm: |      |
County code (LV) relevant? Towns in the county? Geographical location of the county? Demographics? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 828 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 2:09 pm: |      |
County code (LV) relevant? Towns in the county? Geographical location of the county? Demographics? No to all |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 7395 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 4:12 pm: |      |
Changing tacks for a moment...for the Oaths of Strasbourg, are we looking for a specific part of the Oath? Something that happened as a result of the Oath? Another famous Oath? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 829 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 - 6:35 am: |      |
Changing tacks for a moment...for the Oaths of Strasbourg, are we looking for a specific part of the Oath? Something that happened as a result of the Oath? Another famous Oath? This one! |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 7435 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 - 12:10 pm: |      |
Did this famous oath occur in [LTPF list of centuries]? Or has it happened more than once? Wedding vows? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 831 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 - 1:20 pm: |      |
Did this famous oath occur in [LTPF list of centuries]? Apparently it originated around 5th century BC Or has it happened more than once? It has happened many times Wedding vows?No |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 2260 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 - 1:34 pm: |      |
Hippocratic oath? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Post Number: 3000 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 - 3:41 pm: |      |
Doc Holliday the person who died from TB? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 - 3:50 pm: |      |
Darn just realised Doc Holliday had already been guessed . Sorry. |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 832 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 - 5:56 am: |      |
Hippocratic oath? Indeed! Doc Holliday the person who died from TB? No Recap: a. sunflower -> Kansas -> Leavenworth county b. Strasbourg -> the Oath -> Hippocratic Oath c. a certain Mr Koch -> Robert Koch -> tuberculosis -> one well known person who died from tuberculosis in the 19th century (but not Doc Holliday)
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Peter365 (Peter365)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 - 10:11 am: |      |
My goodness there's a lot of famous people who've died of TB . Are they a writer? Robert Louis Stevenson? One of the Brontes? poet? John Keats? Politician? Ruler? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 838 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 - 10:18 am: |      |
My goodness there's a lot of famous people who've died of TB There is, indeed. A simple methodical approach should reveal the one intended here Are they a writer? This is closest, but may be grossly misleading Robert Louis Stevenson? One of the Brontes? poet? John Keats? None of the rest. Some would consider him more of a scientist Politician? Ruler? No to both |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 7501 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 - 1:02 pm: |      |
Was the dead guy [LTPF list of nationalities]? Hippocratic Oath - ancient Greece? Doctors? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 841 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 - 2:31 pm: |      |
Was the dead guy [LTPF list of nationalities]? Norwegian Hippocratic Oath - ancient Greece? Doctors? Yope. Something about Hippocrates is relevant |
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
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Post Number: 3075 Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 - 3:57 pm: |      |
Dead guy - Abel? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 844 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 - 4:24 pm: |      |
Dead guy - Abel? Exactly! Nice job... Recap: a. sunflower -> Kansas -> Leavenworth county b. Strasbourg -> the Oath -> Hippocratic Oath -> something about Hippocrates relevant c. a certain Mr Koch -> Robert Koch -> tuberculosis -> Niels Abel
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Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 7514 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 27, 2010 - 9:47 pm: |      |
Is anything about Niels Abel's life relevant? His work? Is the name "Niels" relevant? Niels Bohr? Or is the name "Abel" relevant? Cain and Abel? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 845 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 28, 2010 - 6:05 am: |      |
Is anything about Niels Abel's life relevant? His work? Thisish. No to all the rest Is the name "Niels" relevant? Niels Bohr? Or is the name "Abel" relevant? Cain and Abel? |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 7548 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, October 28, 2010 - 12:03 pm: |      |
Mathematics relevant? The quintic equation? Radicals? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 846 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, October 28, 2010 - 2:12 pm: |      |
Mathematics relevant? Yes The quintic equation? Radicals? But none of these |
Balin (Balin)
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A specific branch of mathematics relevant? Hippocrates - ancient Greece? Contemporaries of him? His time of death? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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A specific branch of mathematics relevant? Algebra. Something that is named after Niels Abel Hippocrates - ancient Greece? Yes, in the sense that Hippocrates lived in that period. No to the rest Contemporaries of him? His time of death? |
Balin (Balin)
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So are we looking for something about ancient Greece? Gods/goddesses? Temples? Buildings? Some part of the culture? The Olympics? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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So are we looking for something about ancient Greece? No, only something about / related to Hippocrates and the people to whom he taught his art Gods/goddesses? Temples? Buildings? This is closest, but still not close. No to the rest Some part of the culture? The Olympics? |
Balin (Balin)
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Is a specific place in Greece relevant? |
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The Abel prize relevant? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Is a specific place in Greece relevant? Yes |
Ixoye724 (Ixoye724)
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Did you see the cross-post? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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The Abel prize relevant? No Did you see the cross-post? Only now |
Balin (Balin)
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Place in Greece - a city? Athens? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Place in Greece - a city? Athens? No to both |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Thursday, October 28, 2010 - 10:14 pm: |      |
Leavenworth county - some event in the county relevant? Something it is famous for? A place in it? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Leavenworth county - some event in the county relevant? Something it is famous for? Not sure if this makes it famous, but it is known for something originating from there, though not an event or a place A place in it? |
Balin (Balin)
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A person from there? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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A person from there? No, something else |
Balin (Balin)
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A thing from there? Is that where the giant ball of twine is? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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A thing from there? Yesish Is that where the giant ball of twine is? Irrelevant |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 1:04 pm: |      |
Place in Greece - a landmark? A topographical site? Such as a mountain? Sea? River? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 1:48 pm: |      |
Place in Greece - a landmark? This, on something... A topographical site? ...like this... Such as a mountain? Sea? River? ... but however none of these |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 4:19 pm: |      |
Areopagus (Rock of Ares)? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Areopagus (Rock of Ares)? No. Remember, Hippocrates is relevant and we are trying to discover something related to him |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 7:28 pm: |      |
Is this a monument of some sort? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Is this a monument of some sort? Yes, for svv of monument. A landmark is better I guess |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 8:11 pm: |      |
Is it a structure? Writings? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 8:13 pm: |      |
Is it a structure? Writings? No to both |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 8:23 pm: |      |
Is it a place where Hippocrates did something? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 8:25 pm: |      |
Is it a place where Hippocrates did something? Yope -- what are we looking for is in a place where Hippocrates did something, but is not the place itself |
Balin (Balin)
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Is it an item in that place? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 8:42 pm: |      |
Is it an item in that place? Yes |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 8:51 pm: |      |
OK - I've circled around myself again. Could you please recap? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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RECAP: a. sunflower -> Kansas -> Leavenworth county -> something that has its origins in this county b. Strasbourg -> the Oath -> Hippocratic Oath -> something about Hippocrates relevant: a landmark standing in the place where Hippocrates used to do something, not a structure, writings or Areopagus c. a certain Mr Koch -> Robert Koch -> tuberculosis -> Niels Abel -> something named after him in the field of algebra
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Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 9:10 pm: |      |
Are the humors relevant? The thing Hippocrates did - related to medicine? To the Hippocratic Oath? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 9:26 pm: |      |
Are the humors relevant? No The thing Hippocrates did - related to medicine? Yes To the Hippocratic Oath? Yesish Because I already answered that but forgot to mention in the recap: the thing he was doing was teaching medicine to his students. In the place he used to do this, on the island of Kos, a certain item stood, considered a landmark, and this item is our only concern. Nothing else related to Hippocrates or to ancient Greece is relevant |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 9:33 pm: |      |
The market? The domed building? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 9:38 pm: |      |
The market? The domed building? No to both |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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| | Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 10:36 pm: |      |
The Tree of Hippocrates. A plane tree. ? Sorry, but my snake definitely blinked before yours. |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 10:52 pm: |      |
The Tree of Hippocrates. Exactly... A plane tree.? ... and precisely so. Approaching the grand finale... With a few steps left |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 11:14 pm: |      |
Recap at the end of the day: a. sunflower -> Kansas -> Leavenworth county -> something that has its origins in this county b. Strasbourg -> the Oath -> Hippocratic Oath -> Hippocrates -> the Tree of Hippocrates -> plane tree -> ? c. a certain Mr Koch -> Robert Koch -> tuberculosis -> Niels Abel -> something named after him in the field of algebra
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Woodworm (Woodworm)
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| | Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 11:23 pm: |      |
Were you dropping a sneaky hint on my puzzle? I'm thinking here of the complex plane... |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 11:27 pm: |      |
Were you dropping a sneaky hint on my puzzle? I'm thinking here of the complex plane... I'd wished that was true, but unfortunately I didn't think about it... A plane is a simple plane, so to speak |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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| | Posted on Friday, October 29, 2010 - 11:29 pm: |      |
I wish someone would try poking around at my puzzle...*sigh* Plane = flat surface? Or airplane? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 12:05 am: |      |
Plane = flat surface? Or airplane? This one! Only one step left in this chain |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 12:11 am: |      |
Airplane - a specific type of airplane? A company that makes airplanes? An airport? An airline? Skydiving? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 6:50 am: |      |
Airplane - a specific type of airplane? A company that makes airplanes? An airport? An airline? Skydiving? No to all |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 4:16 pm: |      |
Airplane - pilot? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 4:58 pm: |      |
Airplane - pilot? No. A little more basic investigation might be required here. A direct connection, without a little more questioning, is next to impossible |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 10:44 am: |      |
One specific airplane? A real one? A fictional one? A depiction of one? In some form of media? Or entertainment? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 12:05 pm: |      |
One specific airplane? No A real one? Yes, no to the rest A fictional one? A depiction of one? In some form of media? Or entertainment? |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 4:31 pm: |      |
Something that an airplane does? Something done on an airplane? Someone who works on an airplane? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 7:47 pm: |      |
Something that an airplane does? This is closest. None of the rest Something done on an airplane? Someone who works on an airplane? |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 11:18 pm: |      |
One of the airplane's instruments? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Monday, November 01, 2010 - 10:50 am: |      |
One of the airplane's instruments? One instrument is relevant, but is not the answer |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Monday, November 01, 2010 - 12:51 pm: |      |
Relevant instrument: speedometer? Altimeter? Level flight indicator? Wash? Soak? Rinse? Spin? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Monday, November 01, 2010 - 1:13 pm: |      |
Relevant instrument: speedometer? This one, more precisely the airspeed indicator Altimeter? Level flight indicator? Wash? Soak? Rinse? Spin? |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Monday, November 01, 2010 - 3:17 pm: |      |
The airspeed is given...in knots? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Monday, November 01, 2010 - 6:55 pm: |      |
The airspeed is given...in knots? It is, but it is not relevant RECAP: a. sunflower -> Kansas -> Leavenworth county -> something that has its origins in this county b. Strasbourg -> the Oath -> Hippocratic Oath -> Hippocrates -> the Tree of Hippocrates -> plane tree -> airplane -> something related to airplane speed c. a certain Mr Koch -> Robert Koch -> tuberculosis -> Niels Abel -> something named after him in the field of algebra Point b is very close to the end of chain, but point a and c may be also of interest
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Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Monday, November 01, 2010 - 8:09 pm: |      |
Point C: Abelian groups? Topology? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 7:33 am: |      |
Point C: Abelian groups? This one! Only two steps left here also Topology? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 12:55 pm: |      |
Mach number? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 12:57 pm: |      |
Mach number? No, but speed is certainly involved |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 1:03 pm: |      |
Is a specific part of an Abelian group relevant? A specific type? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 1:11 pm: |      |
Is a specific part of an Abelian group relevant? A specific type? No to both. We are looking to find something to which an abelian group is somehow related |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 1:15 pm: |      |
Something about abstract algebra? Finite groups? Infinite groups? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 1:39 pm: |      |
Something about abstract algebra? Yes Finite groups? Infinite groups? But none of these |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 1:43 pm: |      |
Groups? Rings? Fields? Modules? Vector spaces? Fermat's theorem? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 2:22 pm: |      |
Groups? Rings? This one! Now for the final leap in this chain... Fields? Modules? Vector spaces? Fermat's theorem? |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 2:24 pm: |      |
Rings: Actual, physical rings? Lord of the Rings? Onion rings? The Olympic rings? Wedding rings? Engagement rings? Rings found in Cracker Jack boxes (which are sometimes used as engagement rings)? ISH's puzzle about Execution Rock? The rings (gymnastics event)? Ring Around the Rosie? A ring of criminals? Super Bowl rings? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 2:27 pm: |      |
Rings: Actual, physical rings? This-ish, none of the others Lord of the Rings? Onion rings? The Olympic rings? Wedding rings? Engagement rings? Rings found in Cracker Jack boxes (which are sometimes used as engagement rings)? ISH's puzzle about Execution Rock? The rings (gymnastics event)? Ring Around the Rosie? A ring of criminals? Super Bowl rings? |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 2:30 pm: |      |
A drawing of rings? Some depiction of rings? One ring? More than one? Ring as in the round thing? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 2:32 pm: |      |
A drawing of rings? No Some depiction of rings?b{No} One ring? No More than one? Yes Ring as in the round thing? It has a round appeareance, yes |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 2:34 pm: |      |
A sculpture of rings? Are the rings all the same? Of the same type? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 2:36 pm: |      |
A sculpture of rings? No Are the rings all the same? Nope Of the same type? Yes Also, I sense a FA in some of the questions in the last few posts |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 2:38 pm: |      |
Are the rings linked? Or otherwise connected? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 2:40 pm: |      |
Are the rings linked? Or otherwise connected? Nope. They are concentric |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 2:41 pm: |      |
A target? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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A target? No, but good thinking |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 2:45 pm: |      |
A hedge maze? Labyrinth/ |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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A hedge maze? Labyrinth/ No to both |
Balin (Balin)
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Crop circles? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Crop circles? No, but also good thinking |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 3:00 pm: |      |
Is an optical illusion relevant? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 3:13 pm: |      |
Is an optical illusion relevant? Noish |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 3:14 pm: |      |
Saturn? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 3:17 pm: |      |
Saturn? Bingo! And this is the end of the this chain, which prompts a RECAP: a. sunflower -> Kansas -> Leavenworth county -> something that has its origins in this county b. Strasbourg -> the Oath -> Hippocratic Oath -> Hippocrates -> the Tree of Hippocrates -> plane tree -> airplane -> something related to airplane speed c. a certain Mr Koch -> Robert Koch -> tuberculosis -> Niels Abel -> Abelian group -> Rings -> SATURN [end of chain] Once all the chains will be completed, the connection will be evident. Till now, point a. is the most underdeveloped, although I think it will proceed faster than the elusive airplane speed. Your call.
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Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 3:38 pm: |      |
Mercury? Because Mercury is so fast? The fastest planet? (this is for b, by the way. Although that's just for speed, not airplane speed. I'm probably missing something so I decided to try and skip ahead. Is planetary speed relevant?) |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 5:22 pm: |      |
Mercury? Because Mercury is so fast? The fastest planet? (this is for b, by the way. Although that's just for speed, not airplane speed. I'm probably missing something so I decided to try and skip ahead. Is planetary speed relevant?) No to all. The speed is airplane speed |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 7:44 pm: |      |
All right, back to Chain A for a bit... Leavenworth's formerly being a dry county relevant? Any schools in there relevant? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 8:01 pm: |      |
Hmmm, don't know much about aircraft speeds. Anything to do with V Speeds? Critical speeds at which an aircraft doesn't, er, fall out of the sky? And now we've got to Saturn at the end of one thread, perhaps we might start moving sideways? Is the connection between the threads to do with planets? Motor vehicles? Ancient Roman rites? Gods? Gustav Holst? |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Tuesday, November 02, 2010 - 8:04 pm: |      |
Ooh, maybe a famous person from the county? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 9:09 am: |      |
All right, back to Chain A for a bit... Good idea! Leavenworth's formerly being a dry county relevant? Any schools in there relevant? No to both Hmmm, don't know much about aircraft speeds. It seems that you know enough and of course googling is alowed Anything to do with V Speeds? Indeed! Critical speeds at which an aircraft doesn't, er, fall out of the sky? So no to this And now we've got to Saturn at the end of one thread, perhaps we might start moving sideways? You might. Anyway, the puzzle will be over when all the threads will be completed, which is not far away -- only "a" needs a bit more work, since "c" is completed and "b" is at its final step Is the connection between the threads to do with planets? Motor vehicles? Ancient Roman rites? Gods? Gustav Holst? No to all Ooh, maybe a famous person from the county? Not this. The 'thing' in question is not a person Good progress |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 12:05 pm: |      |
V speeds -> Saturn V rocket? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 12:11 pm: |      |
V speeds -> Saturn V rocket? This one, but a specific V speed is relevant for finishing off thread b |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 3:18 pm: |      |
Is the correct V-speed designated with a number? A letter? Letters? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 4:18 pm: |      |
Is the correct V-speed designated with a number? This one. No to the rest A letter? Letters? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 5:41 pm: |      |
V1? VI=6? Saturn = 6th planet? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 6:39 pm: |      |
V1? No VI=6? Very much so, but totally irrelevant Saturn = 6th planet? Also true but equally irrelevant |
Balin (Balin)
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| | Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 8:06 pm: |      |
V2? V3? V4? |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 2352 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 8:21 pm: |      |
Oh so they're rockets? V2 is a rocket, and the Saturn is a rocket. Are we looking for a third rocket, linked (at one remove) to this county in Kansas? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 942 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 8:25 pm: |      |
V2? This one! V3? V4? Time for the RECAP a. sunflower -> Kansas -> Leavenworth county -> something that has its origins in this county (but not a person) b. Strasbourg -> the Oath -> Hippocratic Oath -> Hippocrates -> the Tree of Hippocrates -> plane tree -> airplane -> airplane speed -> V2 [end of chain] c. a certain Mr Koch -> Robert Koch -> tuberculosis -> Niels Abel -> Abelian group -> Rings -> SATURN [end of chain] (Saturn V rocket relevant) Remaining: point a (2-3 levels) and the wrap-up: connection between the three -- both necessary for the $poyler
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Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8006 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 8:46 pm: |      |
Well, Woodworm seems to have nailed the connection (rockets), but still working on Leavenworth county - are we looking for a product? Something manufactured? A toy? A food? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 944 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 8:54 pm: |      |
Well, Woodworm seems to have nailed the connection (rockets), but still working on Leavenworth county - are we looking for a product? Yes Something manufactured? No A toy? No A food? Edible, anyway |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Post Number: 1297 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 - 9:06 pm: |      |
A drink? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 945 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 8:06 am: |      |
A drink? No |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8053 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 11:06 am: |      |
A normally inedible product that has been made edible? Like edible paper? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 946 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 11:45 am: |      |
A normally inedible product that has been made edible? No, it is edible and eaten frequently Like edible paper? So no to this |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8059 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 1:57 pm: |      |
Is it chewing gum? Something else that is typically chewed? But not considered a food? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 947 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 2:04 pm: |      |
Is it chewing gum? Something else that is typically chewed? But not considered a food? No to all. A potential BLOOPER from my part: it is actually food -- maybe because I don't like it too much prevented me from saying a straight 'yes' to the food part |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8065 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 2:09 pm: |      |
Is it a health food? Tofu? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 948 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 2:13 pm: |      |
Is it a health food? I don't know what this is Tofu? No, tofu is man-made, what we are looking for is not |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8067 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 3:03 pm: |      |
Is it a fruit? Vegetable? Candy? Snack food? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 949 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 4:25 pm: |      |
Is it a fruit? This one! No to the others.Vegetable? Candy? Snack food? |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
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Post Number: 1331 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 4:34 pm: |      |
Just one fruit? Anything to do with this guy? here |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 950 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 4:40 pm: |      |
Just one fruit? One type relevant Anything to do with this guy? Yes indeed, well done. The Stayman apple is what we were looking for. From now it should be easy... only two leaps left to end this last chain |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 951 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 6:23 pm: |      |
I've totally missed this post yesterday. My apologies Woodworm Oh so they're rockets? Yes V2 is a rocket, and the Saturn is a rocket. Indeed Are we looking for a third rocket, linked (at one remove) to this county in Kansas? No third rocket in this thread, though |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8074 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 7:15 pm: |      |
So are we looking for something involving Stayman? Apples? Apple -> Macintosh? Computers? iPod? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 952 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 7:22 pm: |      |
So are we looking for something involving Stayman? This one, none of the rest Apples? Apple -> Macintosh? Computers? iPod? |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8078 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 7:24 pm: |      |
Checkers? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 953 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 7:25 pm: |      |
Checkers? No |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8079 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 7:27 pm: |      |
Any other fruits relevant? His work in horticulture? The Smithsonian? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 954 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 7:30 pm: |      |
Any other fruits relevant? His work in horticulture? The Smithsonian? No to all. No fruits are relevant any more. Only Stayman. As you know, google is allowed and encouraged |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8081 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 7:38 pm: |      |
Something about his personal life? Other business? A town? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 955 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 8:16 pm: |      |
Something about his personal life? Other business? A town? No to all |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8093 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 8:25 pm: |      |
Education? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 956 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 8:27 pm: |      |
Education? No. You were closer with the checkers question |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8095 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 8:29 pm: |      |
Is a hobby of his relevant? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 957 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2010 - 8:32 pm: |      |
Is a hobby of his relevant? We do not need to find more of Dr. Joseph Stayman other that we already know |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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| | Posted on Friday, November 05, 2010 - 6:27 pm: |      |
Two clubs? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 959 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 05, 2010 - 8:48 pm: |      |
Two clubs? No, but of course we are looking for an alternative to the Stayman convention |
Woodworm (Woodworm)
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Post Number: 2355 Registered: 3-2006
| | Posted on Friday, November 05, 2010 - 9:00 pm: |      |
Jacoby transfers? Baron? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 961 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 05, 2010 - 9:03 pm: |      |
Time for the usual end-of-day RECAP: a. sunflower -> Kansas -> Leavenworth county -> Stayman apples -> Stayman bridge convention -> ? (Two easy steps left here) b. Strasbourg -> the Oath -> Hippocratic Oath -> Hippocrates -> the Tree of Hippocrates -> plane tree -> airplane -> airplane speed -> V2 [end of chain] (V2 rocket relevant) c. a certain Mr Koch -> Robert Koch -> tuberculosis -> Niels Abel -> Abelian group -> Rings -> SATURN [end of chain] (Saturn V rocket relevant) Thread 'a' and 'connection' (obvious by now) remaining to be solved.
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Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 962 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, November 05, 2010 - 9:05 pm: |      |
Jacoby transfers? Baron? This one ... Only one step left |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8143 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, November 05, 2010 - 9:56 pm: |      |
The Red Baron? Which would make me think of Snoopy? Didn't one of the Apollo missions or something name one of their modules Snoopy? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 963 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2010 - 7:48 am: |      |
The Red Baron? Which would make me think of Snoopy? Didn't one of the Apollo missions or something name one of their modules Snoopy? You're right, Snoopy was the name of the LM of Apollo 10, but this is not relevant. Our last step in this chain does not involve rockets, planets or anything like this, only a YOPISHLY synonim to the word "baron". Of course, since this is the last step in the last chain, you can start guessing the connection between the three. |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8165 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2010 - 1:04 pm: |      |
Baron - another royal title? Duke? Earl? Count? Lord? |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 965 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2010 - 4:00 pm: |      |
Baron - another royal title? Duke? Earl? Count? Lord? No, think of a baron in another language |
Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8185 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2010 - 5:08 pm: |      |
Etymology of "baron" relevant? |
Woubit (Woubit)
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Post Number: 1113 Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2010 - 9:04 pm: |      |
Somewhat late to this, but the name of Wernher Magnus Maximilian Freiherr [Baron in German] von Braun comes to mind. Since he worked for the Germans on the V2 and for the Americans on the Saturn V, he may or may not have something to do with the puzzle. Whether or not he did, you may enjoy watching this. |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
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Post Number: 967 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 9:30 am: |      |
Etymology of "baron" relevant? No Somewhat late to this, but the name of Wernher Magnus Maximilian Freiherr [Baron in German] von Braun comes to mind. Since he worked for the Germans on the V2 and for the Americans on the Saturn V, he may or may not have something to do with the puzzle. Whether or not he did, you may enjoy watching this. Nice piece. ******* SPOILER ******* And of course, what links together a sunflower (Freiherr), the town of Strasbourg (V2 rocket) and a certain Mr. Koch (Saturn V rocket) is the famous Wernher Magnus Maximilian Freiherr von Braun (1912 - 1977). Thanks to all who participated and to woubit for revealing the connection.
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Balin (Balin)
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Post Number: 8218 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, November 07, 2010 - 12:35 pm: |      |
Brilliant puzzle! And I definitely enjoyed the Tom Lehrer piece. Gotta love good old-fashioned satire. |