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Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Monday, October 25, 2010 - 1:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It was the best way to protect against identity theft.
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Is it the best way to protect against identity theft now, or "was" it only the best way?

Was it the best way in the past, but not now? Or just the best way in one isolated incident? The best way in one situation that could happen more than once?

Is one specific type of identity theft involved?
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Is a specific person's identity involved? Or could anyone do this? Identity thieves stealing the identities of wanted criminals relevant?
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Is using false names relevant?
Balin (Balin)
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Is it the best way to protect against identity theft now, Noish or "was" it only the best way? Yope

Was it the best way in the past, Noish but not now? Yopish Or just the best way in one isolated incident? Yes - excellent question The best way in one situation that could happen more than once? It could

Is one specific type of identity theft involved? Yesish

Is a specific person's identity involved? More than one person, yes Or could anyone do this? Noish Identity thieves stealing the identities of wanted criminals relevant? No

Is using false names relevant? Yesish
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Well, that's helpful...
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Too many ishes in there, and no ISH to sort the ish-es out. *sighs* I fail at figuring them out.
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Are any of these relevant:
credit card numbers?
social security numbers?
PINs?
drivers licenses?
military IDs?
mail fraud?
retinal scanning?
fingerprint recognition?
Balin (Balin)
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Are any of these relevant:
credit card numbers?
social security numbers?
PINs?
drivers licenses?
military IDs?
mail fraud?
retinal scanning?
fingerprint recognition? None of these.
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Ordering Pizzas in other people's names? My high school gave me three days of in school suspension for this last year and accused me of "identity theft". Complete garbage to anyone who knows the definition of Identity Theft but since they also accused me of "disrupting the school environment". which was a legitimate claim, fighting it would do me more harm than good. And don't worry, I've matured since then.
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Ordering Pizzas in other people's names? No, although the type of identity theft I'm referring to involves using another person's identity.

My high school gave me three days of in school suspension for this last year and accused me of "identity theft". Complete garbage to anyone who knows the definition of Identity Theft but since they also accused me of "disrupting the school environment". which was a legitimate claim, fighting it would do me more harm than good. And don't worry, I've matured since then. Identity theft? Seriously? I read that and almost fell over laughing.
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So was the identity theft in this case a situation where one person tried to assume the identity of another person by using the other person's name? By using another person's picture? By trying to talk like another person/use a phony voice?
Is forgery involved?
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Pretending to be a famous person to get free stuff? (A man apparently pretended to be Yankees pitcher Joba Chamberlain for over a year and wound up getting about $1,000 worth of free bagels from a NYC bagel shop run by a Yankees fan who thought he was actually Joba.) He got caught when a Yankees security officer happened to be in the store at the same time as Fake-Joba and got suspicious about it, then talked to real Joba to confirm it wasn't him then reported the guy to police who arrested him the next time he came in for bagels.
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Wow, I've never even heard of Joba Chamberlain. He should have thanked the guy for giving him some publicity!
Balin (Balin)
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So was the identity theft in this case a situation where one person tried to assume the identity of another person by using the other person's name? Well, the preventative measure was to prevent this from even happening. And you have an FA, which some very basic background questions can clear up. By using another person's picture? By trying to talk like another person/use a phony voice? Neither
Is forgery involved? Noish

Pretending to be a famous person to get free stuff? No
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Did something happened that alerted someone that a certain kind of identity theft was possible? Theoretically possible?
Did the identity theft actually happen?
How many people were involved - 1? 2? more?
Are computers involved?
Balin (Balin)
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Did something happened No that alerted someone that a certain kind of identity theft was possible? Theoretically possible? Yes
Did the identity theft actually happen? No
How many people were involved - 1? 2? more? This, but one person more so than others
Are computers involved? Yes
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Security codes? Login names? User ID? Passwords?
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Security codes? No Login names? Yope User ID? Yope Passwords? Yes
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So some measure was taken to prevent a person from using someone else's password in order to access the other person's information? Or to log on in the other person's name?
Balin (Balin)
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So some measure was taken to prevent a person from using someone else's password in order to access the other person's information? Or to log on in the other person's name? This-ish. You have an FA.
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Is the FA that a person was attempting to use another password? Does this concern a computer that tries to "learn" or randomly find users' passwords?
Balin (Balin)
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Is the FA that a person was attempting to use another password? No Does this concern a computer that tries to "learn" or randomly find users' passwords? No

The FA was that this is a real event. The story is FMOI, although the people whom this story concerns are very much real.
Balin (Balin)
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I feel like my answers have mislead, so here's a

RECAP with embedded HINTS:

The story concerns real people in a fictional situation, at a fictional event. As security, they need to do something before entering the event (to protect against someone else claiming to be them), and this involves a username and password.

Should be easier from this point.
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So the security measures have to do with entry into an event, so that the people at the event can securely use their own name and password?
Is the kind of event relevant?
At some point, would the people involved with the event need to type their name and password somewhere?
Balin (Balin)
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So the security measures have to do with entry into an event, Yes so that the people at the event can securely use their own name and password? Not necessarily
Is the kind of event relevant? Yes
At some point, would the people involved with the event need to type their name and password somewhere? Yes
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Is it a sports-related event? Some kind of convention? A political event? An event involving religion? Involving law enforcement? Involving the military? Involving computers?
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Is it a sports-related event? No Some kind of convention? Yes (tiny -ish) A political event? An event involving religion? Involving law enforcement? Involving the military? Involving computers? Yope/Noish, No to rest
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Any sort of exams relevant? Fraud? Relevant how many people that took part in this event? Is the event itself real? or also from your imagination?
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Any sort of exams relevant? No Fraud? No Relevant how many people that took part in this event? Hmmm...say around 20. Is the event itself real? or also from your imagination? This
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Is the event a meeting? Of people who work for the same company? Of people with a common profession?
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Is the event a meeting? I suppose it could be called this Of people who work for the same company? No Of people with a common profession? Not "profession", but...
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Common interest? Hobby? Medical condition? Physical feature? Certain ability?
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Common interest? It could be called this... Hobby? ...but more likely would be called this. No to rest. Medical condition? Physical feature? Certain ability?

Almost there now....
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Topic of this yes-ish convention relevant? Even though this event is from your own imagination, is it possible that it could take place at some stage?

Oh, one final thought - LPTF relevant or it's members?
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Topic of this yes-ish convention relevant? Yes Even though this event is from your own imagination, is it possible that it could take place at some stage? Yes

Oh, one final thought - LPTF relevant or it's members? YES!!!!

Care to put everything together?
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No one on the LTPF can log in under another person's name? Or if they forget their login, they have to make a new one?
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No one on the LTPF can log in under another person's name? Not quite, but OTRT. Remember, this is at an LTPF convention, to protect against identity theft/impersonation. Or if they forget their login, they have to make a new one? No
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So would everyone attending this LPTF convention have to register by using their LPTF username and password? Just to prove that they are exactly who they say they are?
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That sounds logical, Eli. =D Is it true, Balin?
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So would everyone attending this LPTF convention have to register by using their LPTF username and password? Just to prove that they are exactly who they say they are? We have a winner!

**********SPOILER**********

Sometime in the (hopefully) near future....

The first LTPF convention was finally going to happen. Members from all over the world were attending, and everyone was excited to finally meet. However, just days before the convention, one of us (you know who you will be) asked, via chatroom, how we could tell that we were who we said we were.

Panic erupted (ok, not really), but it was quickly calmed by the gentle words of the all-knowing Admin, who simply reminded us that all we had to do was set up a computer outside the convention. Potential attendees would be required to log in, or post, under their username in order to be admitted, preventing identity theft.

As such, the convention went on, and everyone had an awesome time, with plans to all meet again the next year.

Excellent work - kudos to everyone who did legwork, and Eli, who put the last bits together.
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Oh, forgot to mention...

The initials of the title are LTPF, pointing to this forum, whose members have become Like The Perfect Friends to me. So this is my little shout-out to all of you out there - you're all awesome.

Sentimental moment over - next puzzle at the bottom.
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Aww! *huggles Balin* Same right back to you :-)
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Love that expression 'Like The Perfect Friends'...

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