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Lynne (Lynne)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 10:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

We used to send parcels to a hospital in Uganda; things like cot blankets, bandages, dressings, pins etc. Our contact used to thank us and list the items received so that we were reassured that everything had arrived safely. However, she thanked us for a couple of things we didn't know we'd sent. Can you work out what they were?

Don't worry if this turns out to be very quick.
Peter365 (Peter365)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 10:56 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Morning Lynne

Does it matter how the parcels were delivered? wrapped/boxed? Were the items wrapped individually inside the parcels? Is the packaging of the actual things you sent relevant e.g. the package the bandages came in?

Did they confuse your package with someone else's?
Did you not realise you'd sent them because you didn't attach any significance to their presence? You genuingly were'nt aware you'd sent them? you didn't think they'd have a use? they were integral part of the other items you sent?

Did you send any food? relevant?
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Sorry posted before i'd finished.

Did the Ugandans find some ingenious other use for something you'd sent them?

Did their health benefit from these hidden extras?
Lynne (Lynne)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 11:25 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Morning Lynne Morning, Peter

Does it matter how the parcels were delivered? no wrapped/boxed? both Were the items wrapped individually inside the parcels? not sure, but irrelevant Is the packaging of the actual things you sent relevant e.g. the package the bandages came in? no - FYI in those days the NHS allowed you to take half unwrapped packages from hospitals. They were still sterile but no longer double wrapped. I don't think you're allowed to nowadays, they just get binned immediately if they're not used

Did they confuse your package with someone else's? no
Did you not realise you'd sent them because you didn't attach any significance to their presence? I guess you could say that, yes You genuingly were'nt aware you'd sent them? yope you didn't think they'd have a use? correctthey were integral part of the other items you sent? yes

Did you send any food? relevant? no, no

Did the Ugandans find some ingenious other use for something you'd sent them? yes

Did their health benefit from these hidden extras? some of them did
Eli (Eli)
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Was there anything put in the parcels that was relevant? like something to protect the items? If so, bubble wrap? old news papers? something else?
Lynne (Lynne)
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Was there anything put in the parcels that was relevant? no like something to protect the items? no If so, bubble wrap? old news papers? something else?
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Was something accidentally dropped into the parcels? Is the material that the parcels themselves were made of relevant?
Lynne (Lynne)
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Was something accidentally dropped into the parcels? no Is the material that the parcels themselves were made of relevant? they were cardboard
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Is it relevant if you sent some documentation with the parcels?
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In the old days, Romania had a contract with a foreign country enterprise -- in UK, if I am not mistaken -- to deliver glass (as for windows). The contract specified exactly how the packaging should be made: what type of wood, what dimensions, etc., but very few details were given about the glass itself. After an investigation, it was discovered that the foreign firm was actually in the wood business, and they could buy cheap wood as packaging, discarding of course the glass. Any of this relevant?

Was the item a part of packaging?
Lynne (Lynne)
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Is it relevant if you sent some documentation with the parcels? no

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In the old days, Romania had a contract with a foreign country enterprise -- in UK, if I am not mistaken -- to deliver glass (as for windows). The contract specified exactly how the packaging should be made: what type of wood, what dimensions, etc., but very few details were given about the glass itself. After an investigation, it was discovered that the foreign firm was actually in the wood business, and they could buy cheap wood as packaging, discarding of course the glass. Any of this relevant? no, but very interesting!

Was the item a part of packaging? yes
Eli (Eli)
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Posted on Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 10:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

was the item made of cardboard? paper? other material?
Lynne (Lynne)
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was the item made of cardboard? paper? other material? strong cardboard
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Was the item the parcel itself?
Lynne (Lynne)
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Was the item the parcel itself? yep
Lynne (Lynne)
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but it doesn't end there .... she didn't say 'thank you for the parcel' but thanked for something else quite specific
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"Thank you for the box?"
Lynne (Lynne)
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"Thank you for the box?"

Well, yes, it was a box that they were thanking us for, but to what use was it put?
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Did they reuse the box(es) for medical purposes? For shipping purposes?

Did it have anything to do with postage/addresses/postmarks?
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Did they use the box as a table? As a shelter for animals / pets?
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Did they reuse the box(es) for medical purposes? yessish For shipping purposes? no

Did it have anything to do with postage/addresses/postmarks? no

Welcome to the forum!

Did they use the box as a table? As a shelter for animals / pets? no to both
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Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2010 - 12:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did they use the box to store something in? on? did they use it as a shelf?

What did they have to do to the box to use it: Use it in the normal, right-side-up way? Turn it on its side? Turn it upside down? Dismantle it by pulling apart/untaping the box flaps? Cut it into pieces that they used to make something?
Lynne (Lynne)
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Did they use the box to store something in? no on? no did they use it as a shelf? no

What did they have to do to the box to use it: Use it in the normal, right-side-up way? Turn it on its side? Turn it upside down? they used the two halves with the sides facing up, not sure whether that is upside down or right way up, one of each I guess Dismantle it by pulling apart/untaping the box flaps? no Cut it into pieces that they used to make something? no
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Did they unfold the box? Did they change the form of the box in any way?
Lynne (Lynne)
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Did they unfold the box? Did they change the form of the box in any way? no
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A thought just crossed my mind. Were these boxes big enough for a baby to fit in? Were they perhapse used as beds or cots?
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Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2010 - 8:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A thought just crossed my mind. Were these boxes big enough for a baby to fit in? Were they perhapse used as beds or cots?

That was exactly what they were used for. Premature babies had them for cots. Nothing was wasted.

********** SPOILER ************

Well done.
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How clever! I guess not many in the Western world would have thought of using cardboard boxes as baby cots, lol
Lynne (Lynne)
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Oh, I don't know - many a baby has been put in a drawer for a first bed!

I found the story of the nurse who we supported for many years. She was awarded the MBE at the request of the Ugandans.

Her move took place during the period of the ousting of President Amin and near civil war conditions prevailed in Uganda. On the intended site, a hill just outside Kabale there was no "hospital" but an unfinished set of buildings which were intended to include administration offices for the Bishop and a clinic. There were no doctors at all. Jenny set up a clinic initially in the nightwatchman's hut, then progressively in the Bishop's office and eventually was able to move to the intended rooms. The buildings were finished in stages through the 1980's. To start there were no beds at all but eventually the total rose to 40. On occasion there was medical support from Doctors in private practice who would treck out to help for a few days. However for at least the first dozen years Jenny was the most experienced and often the only trained person on the site.
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Posted on Friday, November 12, 2010 - 10:26 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nice puzzle lynne and congrats to Eli for an inspired solve.

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