| Author | Message | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2070 Registered: 9-2010 |
Did someone even check the facts? That makes no sense at all...Not to mention, it's insulting. | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 114 Registered: 12-2010 |
it = A statement? An action? An event? Insulting... in general? A certain group of people? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2071 Registered: 9-2010 |
it = A statement? This is closest. An action? An event? Insulting... in general? A certain group of people? Thisish. Although more people should feel insulted on behalf of the "group", I would think...but they seem to miss the point. | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 115 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is it a saying? An idiom? Or something lots of people say everyday? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2072 Registered: 9-2010 |
Is it a saying? An idiom? Or something lots of people say everyday? None of these. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9994 Registered: 4-2010 |
Christmas relevant? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2078 Registered: 9-2010 |
Christmas relevant? Yes. | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 118 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is the nativity story relevant? The historical facts? The way we celebrate Christmas nowadays? Is the specific group that might consider it insulting women? men? people from a certain ethic/religious background? From a certain country? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 9999 Registered: 4-2010 |
Got a hunch - emailed. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2079 Registered: 9-2010 |
Is the nativity story relevant? The historical facts? The way we celebrate Christmas nowadays? Not these Is the specific group that might consider it insulting women? men? not gender related people from a certain ethic/religious background? did you mean ethical, or ethnic? From a certain country? Not from a particular country, but... | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 119 Registered: 12-2010 |
I meant ethnic, sorry. So, people from a certain ethnic background? From a certain ethical background? Not from a country, but... from a continent? Region? City? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2080 Registered: 9-2010 |
Got a hunch - emailed. Email received, Balin...possible $poyler wrong. Nice try, but OTWT entirely. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10003 Registered: 4-2010 |
Race relevant? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2081 Registered: 9-2010 |
I meant ethnic, sorry. So, people from a certain ethnic background? From a certain ethical background? Not from a country, but... from a continent? This. And to save invoking the LTPF list, it's Africa. Region? City? Race relevant? Not really. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10005 Registered: 4-2010 |
The facts...related to Christmas? Related to Africa? Related to Africans? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2083 Registered: 9-2010 |
The facts...related to Christmas? Related to Africa?This, mostly. All three, really, but someone seriously screwed up as far as geography and climate when making this thing up... Related to Africans? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10008 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did someone make a false claim about Africa? That it was a country? When it's really a continent? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2084 Registered: 9-2010 |
Did someone make a false claim about Africa? More than one. That it was a country? When it's really a continent? I don't think that was actually stated, but I wouldn't be surprised if the lyricists were that stupid, what with all the other mistakes that were made... | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 120 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is it a Christmas song? A Christmas poem? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2085 Registered: 9-2010 |
Is it a Christmas song? Well, it mentions Christmas, and it's a song, so I suppose it's a Christmas song, although its message is a little...off... A Christmas poem? Not this. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10009 Registered: 4-2010 |
Will there be snow in Africa this Christmastime? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2086 Registered: 9-2010 |
Will there be snow in Africa this Christmastime? *raises eyebrow* I think you may have it...but email for early $poyler? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10010 Registered: 4-2010 |
Sending off the missive. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2087 Registered: 9-2010 |
Sending off the missive. Possible $poyler correct. Do you want to end it here? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10012 Registered: 4-2010 |
I'll end it if there are no questions by midnight, forum time. In the meantime, how about you take a look at some of my puzzles? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2089 Registered: 9-2010 |
Just jumped in on your new one. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 10026 Registered: 4-2010 |
OK, the solution... The song: "Do They Know it's Christmas?" by Band Aid. The climate error: "And there won't be snow in Africa this Christmastime." The insulting part: "Well tonight thank God it's them instead of you." I think Bono had an objection to that line which was satisfied before he would record it. I can't remember the details though. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2097 Registered: 9-2010 |
Yes, more or less. Full lyrics and objections following, so ***SPOILER*** It's Christmas time There's no need to be afraid It's Christmas time We let in light and we banish shade And in our world of plenty We can spread a smile of joy Throw your arms around the world At Christmas time But say a prayer Pray for the other ones At Christmas time it's hard But when you're having fun There's a world outside your window And it's a world of dread and fear Where the only water flowing Is the bitter sting of tears And the Christmas bells that ring there Are the clanging chimes of doom Well tonight thank God it's them Instead of you... And there won't be snow in Africa this Christmas time Not even on Mt. Kilimanjaro? The greatest gift they'll get this year is life Where nothing ever grows, no rain or rivers flow Ever heard of the Nile? Do they know it's Christmas time at all? I'm sure all the CHRISTIANS do...and probably even people who don't celebrate it do know about it... Here's to you Raise your glass to everyone Here's to them Underneath that burning sun Yeah, there's this tiny thing called *night time*. And another called *winter*. Also, not all of Africa is a desert, but the part that is, is probably freezing at night. Feed the world Feed the world Feed the world Let them know it's Christmas time and Feed the world Let them know it's Christmas time and Feed the world Let them know it's Christmas time and...Yeah, it's ok to suggest compassion for the needy, but making the whole continent of Africa and all its inhabitants sound like heat-plagued, starving, 'savages' who need to be "saved" is more than a little patronizing and insulting, not to mention inaccurate and stupid (as is their grasp on geography and climate). Not the best message at Christmas, I think. What's everyone else's take? |
