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Kalira (Kalira)
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Posted on Thursday, February 03, 2011 - 4:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I recently saw a picture and tried to change it. It didn't work as well as I wanted it to. What I really wanted was to add a horizontal line. Unfortunately, I don't know anybody who could help me do so.
Eli (Eli)
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Posted on Thursday, February 03, 2011 - 6:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I=you=Kalira?

Picture= a photo? a painting? a drawing? a film? Relevant where you saw it?
Kalira (Kalira)
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Posted on Thursday, February 03, 2011 - 8:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I=you=Kalira? yep

Picture= a photo? a painting? a drawing? no with perhaps a slight ish for these three a film? no Relevant where you saw it? yes
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Posted on Thursday, February 03, 2011 - 8:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you see it in your mind?
Kalira (Kalira)
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Posted on Thursday, February 03, 2011 - 8:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you see it in your mind? nope
Noel (Noel)
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Posted on Thursday, February 03, 2011 - 8:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it a moving picture?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Thursday, February 03, 2011 - 8:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Picture - an image? A still image? A 3D image?
Eli (Eli)
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A mural? A poster? Is it relevant when the picture was made/taken?
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Posted on Friday, February 04, 2011 - 4:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it a picture you saw on the internet? Or on a computer in general? In a book? In a magazine? Hanging on a wall?

Was it about the size of a DIN A4 sheet? Or smaller?

Did your problem have to do with drawing a really straight line? Or with drawing a line that was truly parallel to the border or the pic? Or with the tools/colors you used?

Were you able to start drawing in the first place? Did you have trouble putting the line where you wanted to? Was that very place out of your reach (maybe because the picture was already hanging on a wall but too high for you to reach it)?

Were you actually allowed to draw the line? Was it someone else's picture and that person got angry when you changed it?

Did you want to change the picture in order to correct something? Would it be wrong/incomplete without the line? Or did you just want to add it because you thought it would look better then?

Were you interrupted?

Is the composition of the picture relevant? Is its shape? Its colors? The way it was placed wherever it was placed (hanging on a wall lopsidedly or something)?
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Posted on Friday, February 04, 2011 - 6:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is this picture:
A picturesque scenery?
Something you saw only for a moment?
Something others could see? did see?
A hologram?
A reflection?
A magnification?
A visual paradox?

Were you able to change picture at all? Can you undo your changes?

The reason you want to add a horizontal line:
aesthetic?
to divide the image?
to measure objects?
to add a reference?
to indicate a horizon?

Would a vertical line do? If yes, could you draw it? If not, for the same reason?
Kalira (Kalira)
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Posted on Friday, February 04, 2011 - 3:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Noel
Was it a moving picture? noish

Balin
Picture - an image? yes A still image? this is the yesish to go with Noel's noish A 3D image? no

Eli
A mural? A poster? Is it relevant when the picture was made/taken? no to all

Potato
Was it a picture you saw on the internet? yes Or on a computer in general? In a book? In a magazine? Hanging on a wall? rest LAEFTR

Was it about the size of a DIN A4 sheet? irrel Or smaller?

Did your problem have to do with drawing a really straight line? I would have preferred this Or with drawing a line that was truly parallel to the border or the pic? ALMOST parallel Or with the tools/colors you used? the tools available to make this line possible were a problem

Were you able to start drawing in the first place? the horizontal line? no Did you have trouble putting the line where you wanted to? yes Was that very place out of your reach (maybe because the picture was already hanging on a wall but too high for you to reach it)? no

Were you actually allowed to draw the line? if it had been possible to draw it, I would have been allowed to Was it someone else's picture and that person got angry when you changed it? no

Did you want to change the picture in order to correct something? no Would it be wrong/incomplete without the line? no Or did you just want to add it because you thought it would look better then? well, it would look better to me, anyway

Were you interrupted? no

Is the composition of the picture relevant? no Is its shape? no Its colors? hmm, overall not really, but may help you figure out more The way it was placed wherever it was placed (hanging on a wall lopsidedly or something)? no

Emeraldink
Is this picture:
A picturesque scenery? yope
Something you saw only for a moment? no
Something others could see? yes did see? irrel
A hologram?
A reflection?
A magnification? slightly this, but may mislead
A visual paradox? no to the rest of these

Were you able to change picture at all? yes Can you undo your changes? yes

The reason you want to add a horizontal line:
aesthetic? no
to divide the image? no
to measure objects? no
to add a reference? no
to indicate a horizon? no

Would a vertical line do? no If yes, could you draw it? If not, for the same reason? I could not draw a vertical line
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Friday, February 04, 2011 - 6:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were you trying to draw a line using a computer program? Like Paint? Or something similar?

Is the picture an optical illusion? One of those "magic eye" pictures (which I can never figure out)?
Kalira (Kalira)
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Posted on Friday, February 04, 2011 - 6:43 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were you trying to draw a line using a computer program? no, and FA Like Paint? Or something similar?

Is the picture an optical illusion? no One of those "magic eye" pictures (which I can never figure out)? no, and don't feel bad, I can't either... I can see how it works [I can do the cross your eyes thing], but I can never tell what the whole image is supposed to be
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Friday, February 04, 2011 - 6:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Relevant what website the picture was on?
Kalira (Kalira)
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Posted on Friday, February 04, 2011 - 6:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Relevant what website the picture was on? yes
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Friday, February 04, 2011 - 8:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it on a news site? A forum? A social networking site? A gaming site?
Kalira (Kalira)
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Posted on Friday, February 04, 2011 - 8:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it on a news site? A forum? A social networking site? A gaming site? none of the above
Potato (Potato)
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A (Google) image search? An image hosting service such as Photobucket? Wikipedia? A site relevant for your occupation?

Did you have the option of downloading the picture to your desktop so that you could've changed the downloaded version? Is write protection relevant?

Is the size of the picture relevant? Is its format?
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Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2011 - 9:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you print the picture?

Were you trying to draw the line: with a writing instrument on paper? On the digital image with a computer tool? In your mind?

Was the image write-protected?

Was the image a map? Did you physically wanted to draw a line or it was more like searching for an itinerary and wanted to go directly from one point to another?
Noel (Noel)
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Did you want the line the whole way across the page? Or just to cover part of the picture? Maybe like one of those black censorship bars?
Kalira (Kalira)
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Potato
A (Google) image search? An image hosting service such as Photobucket? Wikipedia? A site relevant for your occupation? no to all

Did you have the option of downloading the picture to your desktop so that you could've changed the downloaded version? no or irrel Is write protection relevant? no

Is the size of the picture relevant? no Is its format? if you're talking jpegs and gifs, no

Rbruma
Did you print the picture? no

Were you trying to draw the line: with a writing instrument on paper? On the digital image with a computer tool? thisish In your mind?

Was the image write-protected? unknown...

Was the image a map? YES Did you physically wanted to draw a line or it was more like searching for an itinerary and wanted to go directly from one point to another? and yes

Noel
Did you want the line the whole way across the page? no Or just to cover part of the picture? yesish Maybe like one of those black censorship bars? no
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Monday, February 07, 2011 - 8:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were you trying to change a route? Add a road? That the map didn't have?
Kalira (Kalira)
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Posted on Monday, February 07, 2011 - 8:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Were you trying to change a route? yes Add a road? yope That the map didn't have? yope
Balin (Balin)
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Were you trying to get the fastest route? Shortest? Avoid highways?
Kalira (Kalira)
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Were you trying to get the fastest route? yesShortest? and yes Avoid highways? no
Eli (Eli)
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GPS relevant?
Kalira (Kalira)
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GPS relevant? no

BLOOPER: The answer to "[a road] That the map didn't have?" should be yesish.

There may be an FA brewing -- I'm not sure yet.

HINT: Find out more about the person who COULD help me.
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 3:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Person who could help you - a relative? Friend? Family member?
Kalira (Kalira)
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Person who could help you - a relative? Friend? Family member? no -- remember the puzzle statement says I don't know anyone who could help me
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A stranger then? Someone famous?
Kalira (Kalira)
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A stranger then? it would have to be a stranger to me, as I don't know anyone who 'qualifies' to help, but you may know someone who could help you in the same situation Someone famous? no
Balin (Balin)
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Someone with specific knowledge? With a specific job?
Kalira (Kalira)
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Someone with specific knowledge? this, but more importantly the physical thing that goes with said knowledge With a specific job? it can be a job, but people do it for pleasure/no pay, too
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The physical thing - a bodily characteristic? A tangible object? A tool of some sort?
Kalira (Kalira)
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The physical thing - a bodily characteristic? no A tangible object? yes A tool of some sort? this is not the category I'd immediately place it in, but it is used for a specific purpose

Perhaps I led you astray -- may be easier to figure out more about the route, but feel free to continue with questions about the helpful person... whichever works for you. (My apologies. I'm in a foul disposition today, and it's making me question everything more than normal.)
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Did you need a sort of computer software which enables editing the maps?
Kalira (Kalira)
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Did you need a sort of computer software which enables editing the maps? no, OTWT
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Is the route entirely on land?
Kalira (Kalira)
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Is the route entirely on land? yope... explore
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Is the route to be driven? Walked? Using public transportation?
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Is the route to be driven? Walked? Using public transportation? which route?
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Hang on...is there more than one route?
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Hang on...is there more than one route? yesish -- rereading the puzzle statement may help clarify
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The horizontal line - a road? A route? Were you trying to add a new route?
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The horizontal line - a road? no A route? part of one Were you trying to add a new route? no...
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Instead of adding a new route/road on the map, did you want to add one in real life? Perhaps a new road? Or a bridge? Or some other way of getting from point A to point B? Maybe a ferry?
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Instead of adding a new route/road on the map, did you want to add one in real life? yes! Perhaps a new road? Or a bridge? Or some other way of getting from point A to point B? yes Maybe a ferry? or any other kind of boat

Good enough for the
********SPOILER********

I work in Northern Virginia, and I found out that one of my good friends at work is going to be in a play in a couple of months. I love the show anyway, so with the added bonus of hanging out with my friend, I told her I would definitely come see it, even though it is in Maryland.

I figured I was going to be in for a bit of a drive (I thought it would be further north and west into MD), but imagine my glee when I pulled up the location on Google Maps and found out it was 20 miles basically due east of where we work!

When I looked up directions, though, I was immediately disappointed to see that it had me taking a 63 mile journey all the way up to the DC area and down again to get to the place. I did the drag-and-drop method of moving the route to see if there was anything south of work that would be shorter, but alas, it was only a one mile improvement.

The problem is, I work approximately five minutes (on foot) away from one of the larger arms of the Chesapeake Bay. The two bridges I found over the Chesapeake to Maryland are about 55 miles apart, and there appears to be nary a one in between (very unhelpful, since my work is essentially halfway between them). My initial thought was that it would be immensely helpful if I knew anyone with a ferry, or any kind of boat. If I could only manage to travel due east from my work about 1.5 miles, I would be on land in Maryland, and I could drive 27 minutes to the place where her play is being held. Instead, I'm going to have to drive an hour and 27 minutes.

So, instead of altering the picture/map by dragging the route in a different direction, which didn't help nearly as much as I wanted, I would rather have added a straight line east from my work location to get to the mainland of Maryland. Unfortunately, I don't know anyone with a ferry (or the ability to create a bridge quickly -- though I think the Army Corps of Engineers does construct floating bridges pretty quickly).

For anyone who wonders about titles, Silver refers to La Plata, the place in MD I'm attempting to reach -- amusingly enough pronounced lah PLAY-tuh, not lah PLAH-tuh like the river or normal Spanish pronunciation. Screen was simply a reference to the computer screen where this little drama was being carried out. :-)

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