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Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4932 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Monday, February 28, 2011 - 10:52 pm: |      |
The piece of wood showed that I would have been able to escape |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 12327 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, February 28, 2011 - 11:17 pm: |      |
"I" = you, Lynne? Piece of wood - in a particular shape? Was it broken? A pencil? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4933 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Monday, February 28, 2011 - 11:25 pm: |      |
"I" = you, Lynne? yes Actually, make that 'we' would have been able to escape. I was with my (then) young children at the time Piece of wood - in a particular shape? yes Was it broken? no A pencil? no |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 12330 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 12:29 am: |      |
Was it a dire situation? Did you escape? Was "it" a geometrical shape? Something odd? A puzzle piece? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4934 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 5:57 am: |      |
Was it a dire situation? it could have been Did you escape? yes Was "it" a geometrical shape? yes Something odd? not really A puzzle piece? no |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 587 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 10:34 am: |      |
Did you physically use the piece of wood? Or did it only make you aware of the possibility to escape? Were you at home? If not: in a public place? private place? Did you go there voluntarily? |
Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365
Post Number: 3333 Registered: 1-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 10:43 am: |      |
Was the piece of wood heavy? could you or did you lift it? Is it a common household item? Is it furniture? could it fit into the palm of one's hand? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4935 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 11:33 am: |      |
Did you physically use the piece of wood? no Or did it only make you aware of the possibility to escape? to save confusion, we escaped in time, but seeing the wood made me realise that we weren't in the danger that I had thought we were Were you at home? no If not: in a public place? private place? privatish part of a public place Did you go there voluntarily? yes - no kidnapping here!! Was the piece of wood heavy? no could you or did you lift it? I didn't - but you may want to explore this later Is it a common household item? no Is it furniture? no could it fit into the palm of one's hand? no |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 12336 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 2:03 pm: |      |
The danger you thought you were in - a fire? A collapsing building? A natural disaster? Were you inside? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 140 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 2:38 pm: |      |
was the piece of wood a painted sign? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4936 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 7:08 pm: |      |
The danger you thought you were in - a fire? no A collapsing building? no A natural disaster? no Were you inside? noish was the piece of wood a painted sign? good idea, but no |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 595 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 7:53 pm: |      |
Does the danger involve crime? Phobias involved? |
Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato
Post Number: 380 Registered: 7-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 8:46 pm: |      |
Is the place inside? Outside? A forest? Some other place in which you don't often encounter other people? The danger: Getting lost? And not being able to find shelter/food/water soon? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4937 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 9:45 pm: |      |
Does the danger involve crime? no Phobias involved? not directly although I would be quite phobic about getting into the situation I feared Is the place inside? yessish Outside? almost A forest? no Some other place in which you don't often encounter other people? no The danger: Getting lost? no And not being able to find shelter/food/water soon? no |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 597 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 10:13 pm: |      |
Were you at school? in the hospital? in the shop? If the danger was real, would it be a danger of death? of injury? Are there other people involved? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4938 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 10:47 pm: |      |
Were you at school? no in the hospital? no in the shop? no If the danger was real, would it be a danger of death? no of injury? no Are there other people involved? just me and my two young daughters; this was many years ago |
Biograd (Biograd)
New member Username: Biograd
Post Number: 1560 Registered: 6-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 10:51 pm: |      |
Would the wood have prevented the danger from coming about (for example, by keeping a door from locking)? Or did the fact that the piece of wood managed to get where it was, show you that something had been possible, and therefore was still possible (for example, if the wood was hanging from the ceiling, there was probably a ladder around somewhere)? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4939 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 01, 2011 - 11:42 pm: |      |
Would the wood have prevented the danger from coming about (for example, by keeping a door from locking)? yes - very good question, but it wasn't exactly a door Or did the fact that the piece of wood managed to get where it was, show you that something had been possible, and therefore was still possible (for example, if the wood was hanging from the ceiling, there was probably a ladder around somewhere)? no |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 12340 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 12:56 am: |      |
Was the wood propping open a window? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4940 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 12:59 am: |      |
Was the wood propping open a window? no |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 12341 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 1:01 am: |      |
Is it relevant how you escaped? Did you go through a door? A window? A hole? Over a wall? Under something? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4941 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 1:16 am: |      |
Is it relevant how you escaped? Did you go through a door? A window? A hole? Over a wall? Under something? under something |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 12345 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 12:34 pm: |      |
Under a fence? A bridge? Did you have to crawl out? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4942 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 1:04 pm: |      |
Under a fence? A bridge? no, no Did you have to crawl out? no |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 600 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 1:42 pm: |      |
Was the piece of wood a ladder? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4943 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 7:07 pm: |      |
Was the piece of wood a ladder? nope, but a good thought |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 151 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 7:35 pm: |      |
were you going through a tunnel? under a river? under a road? under a railway? was the danger the danger of getting stuck or trapped? of drowning? was the wood a gate? or a wooden bolt on a door or a gate? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4944 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 8:01 pm: |      |
were you going through a tunnel? under a river? under a road? under a railway? none of these was the danger the danger of getting stuck or trapped? getting trapped of drowning? was the wood a gate? or a wooden bolt on a door or a gate? not a bolt as such, and gate is kind of closer than door, so just explore |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 155 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 8:49 pm: |      |
a fence? a staircase? a catflap? was it the height of the wooden object? or its position? which showed you would have been able to escape under a barrier? were you walking? in a vehicle? would you have been trapped inside something? underneath something? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4945 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 02, 2011 - 9:50 pm: |      |
a fence? a staircase? a catflap? no to all was it the height of the wooden object? that was an important indicator or its position? plus this which showed you would have been able to escape yes, but be aware that these might mislead under a barrier? of a sort, yes were you walking? I arrived on foot in a vehicle? no cars relevant would you have been trapped inside something? yes underneath something? no |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 158 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 12:05 pm: |      |
was the place the entrance (exit!) to a building? an outbuilding? a shed? a stable? a garage? a barn? and the wooden thing - something which serves as a gate or door? a barn door? stable door? n portcullis? a trapdoor? |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 605 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 12:28 pm: |      |
Could the piece of wood be moved? Did you move it? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4946 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 7:58 pm: |      |
was the place the entrance (exit!) to a building? it was one entrance/exit, yes an outbuilding? a shed? a stable? a garage? a barn? no to rest and the wooden thing - something which serves as a gate or door? no a barn door? stable door? n portcullis?and funnily enough, this is interesting, but it wasn't the wooden thing a trapdoor? no Could the piece of wood be moved? yes Did you move it? not me, but somebody did |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 607 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 8:14 pm: |      |
Were you at the attic? In the cellar? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 164 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 8:27 pm: |      |
so is the building a castle? a fort? a church? school? house? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4947 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, March 03, 2011 - 9:49 pm: |      |
Were you at the attic? In the cellar? neither so is the building a castle? a fort? no, portcullis is not a literal thing, but... a church? school? house? non of those |
Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma
Post Number: 1410 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2011 - 6:03 am: |      |
By any chance, were you on a boat or similar (yacht, etc)? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4948 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2011 - 7:46 am: |      |
By any chance, were you on a boat or similar (yacht, etc)? no |
Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato
Post Number: 388 Registered: 7-2010
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2011 - 12:13 pm: |      |
Is a roller shutter involved? Is the place a parking lot? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 12365 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2011 - 1:07 pm: |      |
Is the wood one of those tollbooth arms? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4949 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2011 - 4:10 pm: |      |
Is a roller shutter involved? yes it is, well done Is the place a parking lot? no, but the actual place is irrelevant. It was the basement entrance to our town library. Is the wood one of those tollbooth arms? no |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 176 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2011 - 5:45 pm: |      |
was it the fact that someone had left it open? so you were in the library with your children and thought you had been locked in? the main doors were locked? but you found a different way out? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4950 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2011 - 7:06 pm: |      |
was it the fact that someone had left it open? no so you were in the library with your children and thought you had been locked in? no... the main doors were locked? no, the main doors are irrelevant, I had a good reason to go in the staff entrance but that's n/r to the story but you found a different way out? no |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 181 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2011 - 7:21 pm: |      |
hmm...or you didn't go into the libarary in the first place because you thought you wouldn't be able to get out again? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4951 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Friday, March 04, 2011 - 11:01 pm: |      |
hmm...or you didn't go into the libarary in the first place because you thought you wouldn't be able to get out again? no |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 196 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Monday, March 07, 2011 - 3:41 pm: |      |
is there another meaning to beig trapped there other than getting locked in? was there a stampede or a swarm of bees heading your way? or someone you wanted to avoid? was the shutter open? all the way? partway? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4952 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Monday, March 07, 2011 - 4:48 pm: |      |
is there another meaning to beig trapped there other than getting locked in? I can see a FA lurking, and no, I wasn't worried about being locked in the library was there a stampede or a swarm of bees heading your way? or someone you wanted to avoid? no to both was the shutter open? all the way? partway? good question - it was all of these things at some point or another |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 12403 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, March 07, 2011 - 5:26 pm: |      |
Was the shutter closing? Opening? Were you worried about getting locked out? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4953 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Monday, March 07, 2011 - 8:18 pm: |      |
Was the shutter closing? yes Opening? Were you worried about getting locked out? believe it or not, no - but this is a lateral puzzle :P |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 620 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 9:56 am: |      |
Just to be sure I understand everything properly - we are talking about door shutter? or window shutter? Was there something relevant on the shutter's closing way? Did you expect the shutter closing? Were there any other people? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4954 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 1:04 pm: |      |
Just to be sure I understand everything properly - we are talking about door shutter? yes, I think that's the best way to describe it or window shutter? no Was there something relevant on the shutter's closing way? yes, good question Did you expect the shutter closing? NO, even gooder question ;) Were there any other people? just me and my young daughters |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 12410 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 1:23 pm: |      |
Did the shutter stop partway down? Or did it keep going all the way? Did you do one of those cool movie-slides under the shutter to get out? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4955 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 7:09 pm: |      |
Did the shutter stop partway down? Or did it keep going all the way? this one Did you do one of those cool movie-slides under the shutter to get out? I don't know whether it was considered cool, but we got out pretty quickly So why did the wood tell me that I could have escaped anyway? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 215 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 7:25 pm: |      |
was there something written on it? like "in caseof emergency please press the button"? or something to indicate that it was touch-sensitive so that it could not have actually sliced you in half? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 12416 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 7:44 pm: |      |
Could you have opened the shutter from the inside? |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 635 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2011 - 8:26 pm: |      |
Was the wood staying in the way of closing shutter? So that it would never fully close? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4956 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 12:15 am: |      |
was there something written on it? like "in caseof emergency please press the button"? no to both or something to indicate that it was touch-sensitive so that it could not have actually sliced you in half? no Could you have opened the shutter from the inside? I think I probably could Was the wood staying in the way of closing shutter? yope So that it would never fully close? yope - good questions |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 12424 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 12:53 am: |      |
Was the wood a part of the shutter? Was it lying at the spot where the shutter would close? So it never would have closed all the way? Or would have popped back open like a garage door? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4957 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 09, 2011 - 1:03 am: |      |
Was the wood a part of the shutter? no Was it lying at the spot where the shutter would close? no So it never would have closed all the way? no Or would have popped back open like a garage door? no |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 645 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, March 10, 2011 - 9:06 am: |      |
Was the wood lying? hanging? standing? on the floor? on the wall? The wooden thing, is it common in household? in the library? outdoors? Was it unique? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4958 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2011 - 6:31 pm: |      |
Was the wood lying? hanging? standing? on the floor? on the wall? lying on the floor The wooden thing, is it common in household? not really common unless there's a use for it that's passed me by, but equally you wouldn't be uber surprised to see it in the library? outdoors? Was it unique? no |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 261 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2011 - 1:32 pm: |      |
we've had a bolt, but it is something which would have been used to secure the shutter once in place? a bar that goes across it and has a lock on it? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4959 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Monday, March 14, 2011 - 4:33 pm: |      |
we've had a bolt, but it is something which would have been used to secure the shutter once in place? it is not a bolt, but it did secure the shutter a bar that goes across it and has a lock on it? no, not like that |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 267 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2011 - 1:24 pm: |      |
a pole which goes through some holes? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4960 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2011 - 9:19 pm: |      |
a pole which goes through some holes? no |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 276 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2011 - 9:48 pm: |      |
a wedge? a latch? a key? :oD |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4961 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 9:34 am: |      |
a wedge? a latch? a key? wedge is closest, but probably not how you're thinking |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 660 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 10:22 am: |      |
The intended use for the wooden thing was: to secure the shutter not to fully close? to secure the shutter not to hit the ground and possibly damage? to secure the shutter not to move? something else entirely? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4962 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 2:16 pm: |      |
The intended use for the wooden thing was: to secure the shutter not to fully close? to secure the shutter not to hit the ground and possibly damage? to secure the shutter not to move? this one something else entirely? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 282 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 2:40 pm: |      |
a wooden peg? |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 673 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 4:25 pm: |      |
Was the wooden thing where it was supposed to be? Or was it displaced? If so, did displacing the thing make the shutter close unexpectedly? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4963 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 7:32 pm: |      |
Was the wooden thing where it was supposed to be? Or was it displaced? If so, did displacing the thing make the shutter close unexpectedly? all correct! Well done. So how does this fit the puzzle statement? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4964 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 16, 2011 - 7:33 pm: |      |
a wooden peg? no |
Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine
Post Number: 679 Registered: 1-2011
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 - 12:51 pm: |      |
So, you were at the staff part of the library with the shutter. The shutter was kept at its place by wooden wedge (sort of). Suddenly someone displaced the wedge and the shutter started closing. You took your daughters and quickly ran out of the library. Did the shutter have to be kept by a wedge because it was loose? So that you would have been able to rise it manually anyway? |
Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne
Post Number: 4965 Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 - 3:46 pm: |      |
So, you were at the staff part of the library with the shutter. The shutter was kept at its place by wooden wedge (sort of). yes Suddenly someone displaced the wedge and the shutter started closing.yes You took your daughters and quickly ran out of the library. almost Did the shutter have to be kept by a wedge because it was loose? YES So that you would have been able to rise it manually anyway? YES That is so close that I'm going to declare a ************* SPOILER **************** I was with my young daughters and was ringing the bell to be let into the staff door. As we were standing there the shutter started to come down. At the same time I heard an alarm go off inside the library. I thought it was a fire alarm and the shutter was automatically falling because of it. We quickly dived back under the shutter - otherwise we would have been trapped between the shutter and the door (about three feet). I then noticed a long piece of wood on the floor and realised that it had been holding the shutter up, it wasn't an automatic shutter, and my youngest was no doubt the one who had knocked it out of place. The alarm was a coincidence (there was indeed a security alert in the library, but the shutter was unconnected and we could have lifted the grill manually Well done! |