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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 7:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

She was just about to reach her aim. She was eager to do it and she had no reason to stop. Yet, accomplishing her mission took her an unreasonable amount to time.

doing it = reaching her aim = accomplishing her mission

All "she"s and "her"s refer to the same person.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 7:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

she = H/A/F?
True story? FYOI? FSEI?
Time and/or location relevant? If so, [LTPF list of decades] and [LTPF list of countries], please.

Did her aim have something to do with...
her job?
her family?
sports?
a hobby of hers?
convincing someone else?

Are any of the following relevant:
Her job? religion? ethnicity? education? age? name?

Was it her fault that it took her so long? Was it someone else's fault? Was it due to something she had no control over?

Under normal circumstances, would it have taken her hours? days? weeks? months? years?
Did she need hours? days? weeks? months? years?
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 7:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

she = H/A/F? Yes
True story? This FYOI? FSEI?
Time Yesish and/or location No relevant? If so, [LTPF list of decades] and [LTPF list of countries], please. Germany, 2011

Did her aim have something to do with...
her job?
her family?
sports?
a hobby of hers? This is probably closest to Yes, no to the rest.
convincing someone else?

Are any of the following relevant:
Her job? religion? ethnicity? education? age? name? No to all

Was it her fault that it took her so long? Maybe a bit of this Was it someone else's fault? But for the greater part, it's probably this Was it due to something she had no control over? Yope

Under normal circumstances, would it have taken her hours? days? weeks? months? years? Just a moment
Did she need hours? days? weeks? months? years? A few moments more
Doriana (Doriana)
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 7:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it important where she was when it happened? Indoors? Outdoors? In a vehicle?

Was someone else directly involved?
Was an object involved?
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 7:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it important where she was when it happened? No Indoors? Outdoors? In a vehicle?

Was someone else directly involved? No
Was an object involved? Yes
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 8:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the object bigger than a finger? a hand? a loaf of bread? a microwave oven?

Is it an electronic device? A mobile phone?
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 8:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the object bigger than a finger? a hand? a loaf of bread? a microwave oven?

Is it an electronic device? A mobile phone? Yes, it's a mobile phone. I guess that makes answering the other questions unnecessary.
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 8:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she want to call someone? Answer a call? Text someone? Answer a text message? Check the time? Set an alarm? Use an app? Was it a smartphone?
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 8:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she want to call someone? Answer a call? Text someone? Answer a text message? Check the time? Set an alarm? Use an app? No to all Was it a smartphone? Yes
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 8:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she want to take a photo? make a video?
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 8:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she want to take a photo? make a video? No to both
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 8:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is autocorrect relevant?
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 9:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is autocorrect relevant? No

BLOOPER:
Use an app? DOYD of "app"
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 10:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"unreasonable amount to time" - Did you mean "of time"?
If no, was she timing something?
Was she making a call?
Sending a text?
Checking her e-mail?
Sending an e-mail?
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 10:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

"unreasonable amount to time" - Did you mean "of time"? Ah, yes, I did. Sorry... Typo... ^_^'
If no, was she timing something? Thus no
Was she making a call?
Sending a text?
Checking her e-mail? This
Sending an e-mail?
Vesica (Vesica)
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Posted on Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - 10:57 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You shouldn't have told me. I thought maybe you were being terribly clever and hid a clue in the puzzle statement that we would assume was a typo. :D

Did something interrupt her checking her e-mail?
Something on her phone?

Is it relevant where she is when this happens?
As in country?
As in place (like at the store)?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 12:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Internet access relevant? Her phone's battery?
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Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 12:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

You shouldn't have told me. I thought maybe you were being terribly clever and hid a clue in the puzzle statement that we would assume was a typo. :D Heh, you're giving me more credit than I deserve xD But beware, you might've given me ideas ;-p

Did something interrupt her checking her e-mail? Yope
Something on her phone? Yesish, but beware of FA

Is it relevant where she is when this happens? See below
As in country? No
As in place (like at the store)? Do you mean a real store (in this case: no)? Or the app store (in that case: yes, but it's not the app store)?

Internet access relevant? Her phone's battery? No to both
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Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 1:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is a certain website relevant?
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Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 1:25 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it a thing/event in the physical reality outside the phone's computer that interrupted her? Or some other application/program/etc on the phone? Was it some kind of malfunction?
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Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 1:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is a certain website relevant? Yes

It's not necessary to figure out which one though - it's probably too specific for most of you anyway. It's the mobile web site of my (German) mail provider where I check my inbox and everything. There's something about it that you could figure out without actually knowing the site.
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Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 1:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was it a thing/event in the physical reality outside the phone's computer that interrupted her? No Or some other application/program/etc on the phone? No Was it some kind of malfunction? Yesish, but maybe it's just suboptimal programming or something xD Anyway, something doesn't really work the way it should.
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Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 1:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Heh, I realize I've just talked about my mail provider... Yes, the HAF is yours truly. I guess that's not much of a help, though... xD
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Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 2:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Does the Inbox keep refreshing before she can open any mail items?
Is the phone trying to do some sort of update?
Is the mail program the only one running?
Is another program interfering?
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Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 8:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I just can share my experience with my mobile phone and my German mail provider: Does the mobile phone place a stupid message box right over the button to open the mail? and you cannot close the message box? so it became impossible to open the mailbox?
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Does the Inbox keep refreshing before she can open any mail items? No
Is the phone trying to do some sort of update? No
Is the mail program the only one running? Irr, assume Yes (just to avoid misunderstandings, it's not an app responsible for mails only, it's the mobile version of my webmail account in the browser)
Is another program interfering? No

I just can share my experience with my mobile phone and my German mail provider: Does the mobile phone place a stupid message box right over the button to open the mail? No, I can do that and you cannot close the message box? No so it became impossible to open the mailbox? Yes, while it's not impossible, I have a problem opening the mailbox, among other things. You're definitely OTRT.
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Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 9:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

BLOOPER: Sorry, mixed up the responses while editing. It's supposed to be:

Does the mobile phone place a stupid message box right over the button to open the mail? No and you cannot close the message box? No, I can do that
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Is the phone touch-screen? Relevant?
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Is the phone touch-screen? Relevant? Yes to both
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Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 3:46 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did you make a typo in your e-mail address? in your password? Was something wrong with the phone's keyboard?

From time to time, my phone's screen is too small to display the sites so that the login thing is hidden behind an ad or something else. Did something like this happen?
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Did you make a typo in your e-mail address? in your password? Was something wrong with the phone's keyboard? No to all

From time to time, my phone's screen is too small to display the sites so that the login thing is hidden behind an ad or something else. Did something like this happen? No ad anywhere and I doubt that the screen size is the reason for my problem because a) it's pretty large and b) my account looks perfectly fine on the screen...
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Posted on Thursday, March 31, 2011 - 8:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

is it difficult to touch that part of the screen because of a lip or some other aspect of the case?
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is it difficult to touch that part of the screen This is OTRT-ish. because of a lip or some other aspect of the case? But no to that. Everything's fine with the case.
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Did you use your finger? Something else? A stylus? Did the stylus break?
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Did you use your finger? Yes, no to the rest Something else? A stylus? Did the stylus break?
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Is your finger, for all intents and purposes, "normal"?
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Is your finger, for all intents and purposes, "normal"? Yes
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Are beta versions of something relevant? Of the phone? Of your provider's website?
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Are beta versions of something relevant? See below
Of the phone? No
Of your provider's website?
Well, I can't quite imagine that, but on the other hand, the problem I have is so obvious that the testers of the website should've noticed it while testing. It makes me think of that phrase you often read in electronics forums - that the costumer is in fact the beta tester due to the makers releasing unfinished products to the market (this phrase is what I based the puzzle title on). So either, the website was tested quite sloppily (if at all) or it's really just me or my phone :-/
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Can you close out of the website?
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Can you close out of the website? Yes...
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Can you open the website? Re-open it? Change the size?
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Can you open the website? Yes Re-open it? Yes Change the size? No. If I could, it'd probably be of help.
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Can you read the text? Click on links?
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Can you properly "click" on things? Are individual links too small for your finger to single out? And you end up clicking other things?
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Can you read the text? Yes Click on links? Yes

Can you properly "click" on things? NO!! Are individual links too small for your finger to single out? Could be And you end up clicking other things? YES!!



**************** SPOILER ****************

On the mobile version of my mail provider's website, after logging in, you're directed to a page consisting only of a list of the folders you can open. The folders are listed vertically, with lines separating the entries. I figure the entire area between two lines serves as a link and normally, upon selecting a folder, said area is highlighted and then you're directed to the folder. But sometimes (at least once per mail checking session), only the area under the text is highlighted, and then the strange thing happens: Either the folder over or under the one I actually selected is highlighted and I'm directed to that folder! It's not much of a big deal but it gets really annoying, especially when I want to check several folders during a session (and, to get the reference to the puzzle statement, it makes opening the desired folder take much more time). And I can't enlarge the view to make clicking on whatever I'm actually supposed to click on easier. It happens to me so often that, unless it's really just me or my phone, the website testers ought to have noticed that at some point, especially seeing that I have smaller fingers than the average person, making be theoretically less likely to have that problem. So it makes me feel a bit like a beta tester of the website.


Good work everyone! :-D

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