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Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1129 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2011 - 11:45 am: |      |
I thought I had found a clever way to outsmart them. But in the end, I was the fool. I = me, Doriana. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 13124 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2011 - 1:53 pm: |      |
"Them" - animals? People? H? A? M? Did you think they were being foolish? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1130 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2011 - 4:53 pm: |      |
"Them" - animals? People? this H? A? M? H/A/mixed Did you think they were being foolish? noish |
Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica
Post Number: 547 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2011 - 5:58 pm: |      |
Are they part of a group? Do they have something in common? Do they work together? Know each other? Related to each other? Related to you? Are they in a position of authority over you? Teachers? Law enforcement? Doctors? Some sort of government official? Do you have any authority over them? You were the fool because: You ended up doing the thing you were trying to avoid? Your clever way did not work? Did they get their desired outcome anyway? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1131 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, April 14, 2011 - 6:24 pm: |      |
Are they part of a group? DOYD of group Do they have something in common? yes Do they work together? yes Know each other? probably Related to each other? no Related to you? no Are they in a position of authority over you? yope Teachers? yope Law enforcement? Doctors? Some sort of government official? no to rest Do you have any authority over them? no You were the fool because: You ended up doing the thing you were trying to avoid? yes Your clever way did not work? yes Did they get their desired outcome anyway? yes |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 3867 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Friday, April 15, 2011 - 10:45 am: |      |
Are "they" a company? Did you end up doing more work, than if you had done what they wanted in the first place? Did they give you an assignment? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1136 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Friday, April 15, 2011 - 8:46 pm: |      |
Are "they" a company? no Did you end up doing more work, than if you had done what they wanted in the first place? no Did they give you an assignment? noish |
Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica
Post Number: 589 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 5:11 am: |      |
Yopish teachers: Professors? Teachers of some skill? Coaches? Tutors? Ages of "students" relevant? Do they work for the same company/employer? Do they work together as in collaborate? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1138 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 9:31 am: |      |
Yopish teachers: Professors? this, but a bit OTWT Teachers of some skill? Coaches? Tutors? Ages of "students" relevant? yope - college Do they work for the same company/employer? yes Do they work together as in collaborate? no |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 13162 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 5:34 pm: |      |
Are they TAs? Substitutes? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1140 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 5:57 pm: |      |
Are they TAs? Substitutes? no, OTWT - don't focus on the individuals |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 13175 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 8:00 pm: |      |
Did they teach the same subject? Is any particular subject relevant? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1141 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 8:01 pm: |      |
Did they teach the same subject? no, and the teachers themselves are relevant, but something else is more important Is any particular subject relevant? yes |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 13183 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 8:20 pm: |      |
Number of students in the class relevant? Is any one particular class relevant? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1142 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 8:26 pm: |      |
Number of students in the class relevant? Is any one particular class relevant? yes to both |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 13186 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 8:53 pm: |      |
Was the class larger than 10? 20? 30? 50? 100? 200? 500? Was the class lecture-style? Was the class a science class? Math? Language? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1144 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 8:55 pm: |      |
Was the class larger than 10? 20? 30? this 50? 100? 200? 500? Was the class lecture-style? no Was the class a science class? Math? Language? this There is a very slight FA here |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 13191 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 9:07 pm: |      |
Were you in the class? Is only one class relevant? Language - English? French? German? Spanish? Latin? Italian? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1146 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 9:10 pm: |      |
Were you in the class? see next answer Is only one class relevant? no! Language - English? French? German? Spanish? Latin? Italian? this, and the other class is Swedish. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 13194 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 9:33 pm: |      |
Were you in either of the relevant classes? If so, Italian? Swedish? Both? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1147 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 9:52 pm: |      |
Were you in either of the relevant classes? yope... explore If so, Italian? yope Swedish? no Both? no |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 515 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 9:56 pm: |      |
did you leave the Italian class? did you enter partway through? were you bunking off the italian class? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1148 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 10:09 pm: |      |
did you leave the Italian class? no did you enter partway through? no were you bunking off the italian class? I was about to say "irrel" which would have been a yes in disguise. But I'll just admit that I did it from time to time because this might be helpful for you. Explore when this happened. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 13202 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2011 - 3:13 pm: |      |
Did you skip the class that day? Are quizzes relevant? Tests? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1155 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2011 - 4:10 pm: |      |
Did you skip the class that day? FA Are quizzes relevant? Tests? no to both |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 13216 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2011 - 6:27 pm: |      |
Did you even have the class that day? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1160 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2011 - 6:35 pm: |      |
Did you even have the class that day? no, but still an FA. I'll do a RECAP that might help to clear it up: I thought I had found a way to outsmart people (don't focus on the individuals, but...) at my university. But in the end, I ended up doing something that I tried to avoid and they got the desired outcome. Two classes are relevant, Swedish and Italian. I was not in the Swedish class, and for the Italian class it's a yope that you should explore. A little hint: The yope later changed to a yes. Focus on the time. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 13222 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2011 - 6:39 pm: |      |
Did you show up in the wrong class? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1162 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2011 - 7:27 pm: |      |
Did you show up in the wrong class? no |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 3576 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 12:10 am: |      |
Were you trying to outsmart your professors? other students? people who worked for the university in the office? did you try to sign up for the Italian class, but they were full? but you went anyway? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1173 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 12:12 am: |      |
Were you trying to outsmart your professors? a bit of this other students? no people who worked for the university in the office? yesish, this is closest, but there's a bit more to it did you try to sign up for the Italian class yope, but they were full? yes - explore the "yope" and the "yes" but you went anyway? yes |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1174 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 12:13 am: |      |
O NOEZ! There's a BLOOOOPRER: "but you went anyway?" should be a "yope" - I went there, but... |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 3577 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 12:16 am: |      |
o noez! ick blooper! okai so... were you placed in the Italian class when you wanted the Swedish one? *iz tryin tu figurez owt hao teh swedish wun iz relevunt* *wundurz hao tu sai kaseburgur in swedish and italian* |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1175 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 12:21 am: |      |
were you placed in the Italian class when you wanted the Swedish one? YES! It's really important that I wanted the Swedish class, so why did I yopishly sign up for the Italian class? *iz tryin tu figurez owt hao teh swedish wun iz relevunt* Iz on gud way! *wundurz hao tu sai kaseburgur in swedish and italian* iz thinkz dey iz use english woard... |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 13295 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 2:01 pm: |      |
Was either class on your alternate list? Did you think the Italian one would fill up quickly? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1176 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 2:45 pm: |      |
Was either class on your alternate list? We don't really have alternate lists, but definitely OTRT Did you think the Italian one would fill up quickly? yesish - in fact... |
Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica
Post Number: 714 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 3:34 pm: |      |
Did you get any benefit from voluntarily leaving the Italian class? Were they taught by the same professor? Did dropping the Italian class secure you a spot in the Swedish class? Were they in the same room, though at different times? Were you counting on the Italian class being overbooked? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1177 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 3:44 pm: |      |
Did you get any benefit from voluntarily leaving the Italian class? FA - I didn't leave the Italian class Were they taught by the same professor? no Did dropping the Italian class secure you a spot in the Swedish class? since there's an FA, no, but OTRT Were they in the same room, though at different times? irrel Were you counting on the Italian class being overbooked? YES!! Put the pieces together and that's it |
Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica
Post Number: 721 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 6:10 pm: |      |
So you took the Italian class even though you wanted the other? Or you never "left" because you never attended? Did you get any benefit from being "bumped" from the Italian class? Did you assume you would not be enrolled in the Italian class? Because it would already be full? Is any kind of scheduling/enrolling preference given to students requesting classes that are already full? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1178 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 6:53 pm: |      |
So you took the Italian class even though you wanted the other? yes Or you never "left" because you never attended? no, I did attend the Italian class Did you get any benefit from being "bumped" from the Italian class? no, but... Did you assume you would not be enrolled in the Italian class? YES Because it would already be full? yes Is any kind of scheduling/enrolling preference given to students requesting classes that are already full? no HINT: What did I think would happen if I didn't get into Italian? |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 13300 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 6:56 pm: |      |
...You would be put into the Swedish class? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1179 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 7:09 pm: |      |
...You would be put into the Swedish class? yes! |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 13305 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 7:12 pm: |      |
So you enrolled for the Italian class, assuming that it would be overbooked and you'd be bumped into the Swedish class, which you really wanted...right? What's left to find out? |
Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica
Post Number: 728 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 7:44 pm: |      |
I'm guessing why on earth she didn't just ask for the Swedish class in the first place. Also, REALLY? Your school considers Swedish a perfect substitute for Italian? That's kind of like asking for Cognitive Pysch course and being assigned to The Philosophy of Consciousness. |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1180 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 8:24 pm: |      |
So you enrolled for the Italian class, assuming that it would be overbooked and you'd be bumped into the Swedish class, which you really wanted...right? yes What's left to find out? a little detail, see next answer I'm guessing why on earth she didn't just ask for the Swedish class in the first place. well, that's the big question that is left. Also, REALLY? Your school considers Swedish a perfect substitute for Italian? That's kind of like asking for Cognitive Pysch course and being assigned to The Philosophy of Consciousness. I'm majoring in French and German, and everyone in my programme has to take a second foreign language, either a Romance or a Scandinavian one. HINT: At least that's what they told us... |
Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica
Post Number: 734 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 8:28 pm: |      |
But you were already taking 2... Were they wrong? Did you not need another language? Did the Swedish class get cancelled if not enough people enrolled? And you hoped it would get cancelled? Did you actually want to attend the Swedish class? For the full semester, etc? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1181 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 8:37 pm: |      |
But you were already taking 2... No, I wasn't taking any: I could have taken either Swedish or Italian, or at least it's what I thought Were they wrong? yope Did you not need another language? No, I did Did the Swedish class get cancelled if not enough people enrolled? probably but irrel And you hoped it would get cancelled? no! Did you actually want to attend the Swedish class? YES For the full semester, etc? yes, we have to take the foreign language class for two consecutive semesters, and now I'm taking Italian II |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 13312 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2011 - 2:15 am: |      |
Did your advisor/some professor want you to take Italian? |
Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana
Post Number: 1182 Registered: 12-2010
| | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2011 - 10:52 am: |      |
Did your advisor/some professor want you to take Italian? yope, but I think we have enough for a ********SPOILER******** Everyone in my programme has to take a second foreign language. In the programme description on the internet it said that we could take either a Scandinavian or a Romance language and I was really looking forward to taking Swedish. But then our advisor strongly recommended us not to take Swedish because the Scandinavian language classes often overlap with mandatory classes, and she told us not to sing up for them. Clever Doriana thought she could outsmart her profs, advisors and the online sign up system: I looked for Romance language classes that were already full, thinking that if I signed up for one of these, I wouldn't get a place so that I could tell the advisor that I have to take Swedish. Well, what I didn't take into consideration is that most students sign up for more than one language course so that they're actually not overbooked. So I ended up having to take Italian. Nice work, everyone, especially Vesica and Balin! (: |
Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica
Post Number: 751 Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Monday, April 25, 2011 - 3:02 pm: |      |
Ah, the most carefully laid plans. Very nice puzzle, Doriana! |