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Vesica (Vesica)
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 4:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Though Mason was a strong, able-bodied young man, Olivia caught him in a criminal act and was able to subdue him until police arrived using only one finger. How?

Mason = HAM
Olivia = HAF of middle to late age
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Relevant which finger? Was it her own finger? His? Someone else's? Was she using a weapon? Was she doing something relevant with the finger? Or threatening to do something relevant? Was he subdued by force? Or threat of force? Any other people involved? Relevant what the criminal act was? Relevant where they were at the moment? Did he have a weapon? If so, a firearm or other projectile weapon? Relevant?
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 5:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Relevant which finger? Yes-ish

Was it her own finger? Yes
His? No
Someone else's? No

Was she using a weapon? NO
Was she doing something relevant with the finger? Yes
Or threatening to do something relevant? No

Was he subdued by force? No
Or threat of force? No

Any other people involved? Yes

Relevant what the criminal act was? YES
Relevant where they were at the moment? YES

Did he have a weapon? No
If so, a firearm or other projectile weapon? No
Relevant? No
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 8:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Criminal act: robbery? Homiside? Suicide? White collar collar crime?

Is time period relevant? If so, before 1970? After? Was she wearing any thing on the finger that would be relevant?

Location: public place? Private residence? Business? Urban? Rural?

Other people: 2? 3? More? Male only? Female only? Both?

Was she pointing her finger? Holding something with her finger? If so, was it an object? Was it Mason?
Vesica (Vesica)
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Criminal act: robbery? Yes
Homiside? No
Suicide? No
White collar collar crime? No

Is time period relevant? A little...
If so, before 1970? After? Let's say Now-ish.
Was she wearing any thing on the finger that would be relevant? No

Location: public place? No
Private residence? Yes
Business? No
Urban? Rural? Does not matter. Let's say suburbia.

Other people: 2? 3? More? Male only? Female only? Both? 1, gender irrelevant.

Was she pointing her finger? No
Holding something with her finger? No...how would one hold something with a finger?

If so, was it an object? And thus no

Was it Mason? How would she hold a human adult male with 1 finger?? No.
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 9:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Mason and Olivia know each other?

Did Olivia have something on her finger?
Something that she knew Mason was allergic to?

Was Olivia threatening to push something with her finger?
Like a button on a device?

Are fingerprints relevant?

Were they in someone's home? Olivia's?
Or were they in some public place? Such as a museum?
Is Olivia a security guard?
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Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2011 - 11:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Olivia touching something? A button? A computer key? Musical instruments relevant? Relevant what she's trying to steal?
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Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2011 - 12:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Potato
Did Mason and Olivia know each other? No

Did Olivia have something on her finger? No
Something that she knew Mason was allergic to? No

Was Olivia threatening to push something with her finger? Yope
Like a button on a device? YES

Are fingerprints relevant? No

Were they in someone's home? Yope
Olivia's? Yes
Or were they in some public place? No
Such as a museum? No
Is Olivia a security guard? No

Hominid
Is Olivia touching something? Yes
A button? Yes
A computer key? No
Musical instruments relevant? No
Relevant what she'sHE'S trying to steal? YES
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Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2011 - 12:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is she threatening to push the button? Or release the button? Or is she threatening to so something else? Is an alarm involved? Or other security device? Can Mason hurt her, if he tries? are animals involved?
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Did she use a taser gun to subdue him?
Vesica (Vesica)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2011 - 3:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is she threatening to push the button? Yope and for the same reasons as last time.
Or release the button? No
Or is she threatening to so something else? No
Is an alarm involved? No
Or other security device? Yes, in a way

Can Mason hurt her, if he tries? Um, it would depend on how hard he tries. Please be more specific.

are animals involved? No

Did she use a taser gun to subdue him? Nope
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Is she pushing the button at the moment? If she does, will he get hurt? Die? Is poison involved? Or electricity? Or something else dangerous? Is this button part of a device placed her home? Is this device common in homes? Is she keeping him from harm? But could stop at any moment? Is it some sort of dead man switch (that is, if she gets hurt/killed, the switch is activated)? Is he afraid? Angry? Relevant? Is he physically restrained? Trapped?
Vesica (Vesica)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2011 - 4:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is she pushing the button at the moment? Yes -and this clears up the "threatening" issue. I mean, she WAS threatening, but she was also doing it so...

If she does, will he get hurt? No
Die? No

Is poison involved? No
Or electricity? Yes
Or something else dangerous? No

Is this button part of a device placed her home? No
Is this device common in homes? Yes

Is she keeping him from harm? No
But could stop at any moment? Yes

Is it some sort of dead man switch (that is, if she gets hurt/killed, the switch is activated)? No

Is he afraid? Yes
Angry? Probably a little of this too.
Relevant? Eh, maybe

Is he physically restrained? Yes
Trapped? Yes
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Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2011 - 4:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the button on a remote control? A garage door opener? An alarm?
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Is the button on a remote control? YES
A garage door opener? No
An alarm? No
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A TV remote, correct?

Did Olivia only push one button? Only push a button once?
Vesica (Vesica)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 11, 2011 - 8:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

A TV remote, correct? No.

Now I'm curious how a TV remote could subdue a criminal...

Did Olivia only push one button? Yes
Only push a button once? NO!
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Did she push the button repeatedly? Was it a Tazer of some sort? Did Mason repeatedly get jolted with electricity when Olivia pushed the button?
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Did she push the button repeatedly? Yes
Was it a Tazer of some sort? No
Did Mason repeatedly get jolted with electricity when Olivia pushed the button? No
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Did the remote control an air conditioner? A fan? A VCR? A DVD player?
Vesica (Vesica)
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Did the remote control an air conditioner? No
A fan? No
A VCR? No
A DVD player? No

It might be easier to get at the what if we get clarification on many of the Yopes and things we've already found out...like maybe what Mason was doing.
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Is he trying to steal something from a private residence? a business?

Is the thing he's trying to steal indoors? outdoors?

Does pressing the button cause something to move? prevent something from moving (aside from Mason himself)?
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Did the remote control have a wire or was it wireless remote?
If wireless, Infrared? or radio frequency?
Are these sorts of remote controls common in houses and generally used for household purposes?
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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2011 - 7:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did the remote control a door? something else that moves? drapes? shutters? film screen? pop-up TV?
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Is it relevant that Olivia is of middle to late age?
Did she live in a home for the aged?
Or a similar establishment?

You answered "Did she use a taser gun to subdue him?" with "Nope", so...
Was Mason unable to move?
Or was he just trapped?
Trapped in a corner?
Due to something being in his way?
Something that Olivia could move with her remote?
Did she use the remote to move it from side to side depending on where Mason is about to go?
Is it an electric wheelchair?

If not, is the device she remotes the size of...
a wristwatch?
a cell phone?
a Game Boy?
a VCR?
a toaster?
a TV?
a stove?
a fridge?
a car?

Is the device harmless but seems threatening?
Due to its looks?
Or due to sounds it emits?
Is Olivia able to call someone through the device? Or does it appear this way?

Did the whole thing happen inside? Outside?
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Was Mason trying to rob Olivia's house? The third person's house?

Did Olivia switch on and off the radio with her remote?

Did Olivia try to make an impression that there is somebody strong (or armed) in the house?
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Wowzer! You all are dead set on getting this one figured out and quick! Bear with me as a post replies in chunks.

Biograd
Is he trying to steal something from a private residence? Yes
a business? No
Is the thing he's trying to steal indoors? No
outdoors? Yes
Does pressing the button cause something to move? No
prevent something from moving (aside from Mason himself)? Yesish

Sapir
Did the remote control have a wire or was it wireless remote? Wireless
If wireless, Infrared? or radio frequency? Um, I think radio frequency
Are these sorts of remote controls common in houses Yes, very
and generally used for household purposes? DYOD of “household purposes”
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Shez
did the remote control a door? Yes
something else that moves? No
drapes? No
shutters? No
film screen? No
pop-up TV? No

Potato
Is it relevant that Olivia is of middle to late age? Not terribly
Did she live in a home for the aged? No
Or a similar establishment? No

You answered "Did she use a taser gun to subdue him?" with "Nope", so... I did, because it’s not a Taser.
Was Mason unable to move? No
Or was he just trapped? YES
Trapped in a corner? No
Due to something being in his way? No
Something that Olivia could move with her remote? No
Did she use the remote to move it from side to side depending on where Mason is about to go? No
Is it an electric wheelchair? No

If not, is the device she remotes the size of...
a wristwatch? This or smaller
a cell phone? No
a Game Boy? No
a VCR? No
a toaster? No
a TV? No
a stove? No
a fridge? No
a car? No

Is the device harmless but seems threatening? No
Due to its looks? No
Or due to sounds it emits? No
Is Olivia able to call someone through the device? No
Or does it appear this way? No

Did the whole thing happen inside? Er, No
Outside? No
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Redwine

Was Mason trying to rob Olivia's house? No
The third person's house? No

Did Olivia switch on and off the radio with her remote? No

Did Olivia try to make an impression that there is somebody strong (or armed) in the house? No
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did she have him trapped halfway through a door like a garage door so that he was stuck, but if she took her finger off the button and the door stopped trying to close/open, he would be able to force his way out?
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did she have him trapped halfway through a door No
like a garage door No
so that he was stuck, Yes
but if she took her finger off the button and the door stopped trying to close/open, No
he would be able to force his way out? Yes
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So it's not a garage?
Is it a garden? Porch? Balcony? Utility shed?

Was Mason caught inside the room the door leads to?

Did Olivia repeatedly press the button so that the door wouldn't fully close or open?

Was the remote malfunctioning? Or the door itself?
Did Olivia repeatedly press the button because she wanted the door to fully close?

Could Olivia have done whatever she used the remote for manually?
Or would it have put her in danger?
Or required too much strength?
Or wouldn't it be possible due to the way the door was built?
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So it's not a garage? Correct, it is NOT a garage.
Is it a garden? No
Porch? No
Balcony? No
Utility shed? No

Was Mason caught inside the room the door leads to? No

Did Olivia repeatedly press the button so that the door wouldn't fully close or open? No

Was the remote malfunctioning? No
Or the door itself? No
Did Olivia repeatedly press the button because she wanted the door to fully close? No

Could Olivia have done whatever she used the remote for manually? No
Or would it have put her in danger? Yes
Or required too much strength? Yes
Or wouldn't it be possible due to the way the door was built? No
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Was Mason trying to steal a car? Was the remote of the car alarm? Or car immobiliser?
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What's a car immobiliser?
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Was Mason trying to steal a car? Yes
Was the remote of the car alarm? No...
Or car immobiliser? No

What's a car immobiliser? I don't really know either, but I'm guessing it's something that immobilizes cars.
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Was the remote for the car doors? Did she lock him inside the car?
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Was the remote for the car doors? Yes
Did she lock him inside the car? Yes
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***** SPOILER *****

This is based on a real news story (What a shock for one of my puzzles, I know!). A 19-year old was breaking into a car in a driveway when a neighbor spotted him and called the homeowner. The homeowner called police and, while remaining in the house, managed to trap the young man by pressing the “lock” button on the car remote every time he unlocked the doors and attempted to exit the vehicle. After a few attempts, the young man gave up and waited for police to arrive.


Well played all!
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Clever homeowner!
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I thought so! Particularly as he/she could stay inside while making good use of the remote!

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