| Author | Message | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 753 Registered: 7-2010 |
Frank just meant well, but the result was a lifetime of hardship. | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1401 Registered: 12-2010 |
Frank = H/A/M? A famous person? Is his age relevant? profession? religion? race? a lifetime of hardship - for him? for someone else? Time or location relevant? If so, the usual [LTPF lists], please. | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 754 Registered: 7-2010 |
Frank = H/A/M? Yes A famous person? No Is his age relevant? No profession? No religion? No race? No a lifetime of hardship - for him? That, too for someone else? But mainly this Time or location relevant? No If so, the usual [LTPF lists], please. | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1403 Registered: 12-2010 |
hardship - financial? physical? emotional? the someone else - one person? more than one? his family? people he didn't know? meant well - by doing something? saying something? | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 755 Registered: 7-2010 |
hardship - financial? Possibly physical? Yes emotional? Yes However, not all persons are affected by all of the above... the someone else - one person? Yes. Explore. more than one? Yes, except for the physical his family? Yes people he didn't know? No meant well - by doing something? saying something? This would be closest | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 1330 Registered: 9-2010 |
So only one person had physical hardship? Is it Frank? His mom? His dad? His sister? His brother? And did everyone experience the other harships? Are there any kinds of hardships we haven't discovered? Did [LTPF List of integers] people experience the hardships? Relevant? Are you one of Frank's family? | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 756 Registered: 7-2010 |
So only one person had physical hardship? Yes Is it Frank? His mom? His dad? His sister? His brother? No to all And did everyone experience the other harships? Yesish Are there any kinds of hardships we haven't discovered? Yes Did [LTPF List of integers] people experience the hardships? 3 Relevant? Yes Are you one of Frank's family? No, it's all FMOI. | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1413 Registered: 12-2010 |
So, three people - Frank? his wife? son? daughter? Are there any other relevant people in this puzzle? Did someone misunderstand Frank? His words? His intentions? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1414 Registered: 12-2010 |
Oooops, didn't mean to bold it!! Sorry! | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 759 Registered: 7-2010 |
So, three people - Frank? Yes his wife? Yes son? daughter? Yes, their child, gender irrelevant Are there any other relevant people in this puzzle? No Did someone misunderstand Frank? No His words? His intentions? So no to both | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1440 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is the person who experienced the physical hardship his wife? his child? Was the physical hardship related to not having enough to eat? having to work hard? not having a place to live? not having adequate clothing? | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 763 Registered: 7-2010 |
Is the person who experienced the physical hardship his wife? No his child? Yes Was the physical hardship related to not having enough to eat? No, but explore. No to the rest. having to work hard? not having a place to live? not having adequate clothing? | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 770 Registered: 7-2010 |
No one? I'm going to help out with a RECAP then :-) Due to something that Frank said, he, his wife and his child have a lifetime of hardship. All of them more or less have to endure emotional and possibly financial hardship and the child has to endure physical hardship and another kind of hardship as well. The reason why the child has to suffer from those additional hardships is not a lack of food but it has to do with nutrition. When he said the thing that triggered it all, Frank was not misunderstood. The puzzle title is highly important. | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1456 Registered: 12-2010 |
Was the child not allowed to eat certain things? Because of an allergy/intolerance? Did he/she have to become a vegetarian? vegan? Did the child have to endure this hardship from the moment of his/her birth? Is a certain event in Frank's life relevant? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 832 Registered: 1-2011 |
Relevant to whom Frank said the relevant thing? Was the physical hardship done to the child directly by Frank? by Frank's wife? by third party? If Frank and his wife hadn't had a baby, would someone else experience the physical hardship? | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 775 Registered: 7-2010 |
Was the child not allowed to eat certain things? Because of an allergy/intolerance? Did he/she have to become a vegetarian? vegan? Did the child have to endure this hardship from the moment of his/her birth? Yes No to the rest, and there's an FA in there. Is a certain event in Frank's life relevant? Yes Relevant to whom Frank said the relevant thing? Yes Was the physical hardship done to the child directly by Frank? No by Frank's wife? Yes by third party? No If Frank and his wife hadn't had a baby, would someone else experience the physical hardship? No | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1459 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is the relevant event the birth of his child? His wife's pregnancy? Did he say the relevant thing to his wife? to his child? Did he want to give his wife some advice about what to eat during her pregnancy? And he was wrong about it? But the wife did it nevertheless and therefor the baby was handicapped or malformed? | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 776 Registered: 7-2010 |
Is the relevant event the birth of his child? His wife's pregnancy? Both are relevant, but Frank said the relevant thing during her pregnancy. Did he say the relevant thing to his wife? Yes to his child? No, FA Did he want to give his wife some advice about what to eat during her pregnancy? Yope. Explore. And he was wrong about it? Yesish But the wife did it nevertheless She did what he said and therefor the baby was handicapped or malformed? Yes | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1462 Registered: 12-2010 |
Did he tell his wife to take vitamins? nutrients? folic acid? And she took too much of it? Drinking relevant? Smoking? | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 778 Registered: 7-2010 |
Did he tell his wife to take vitamins? nutrients? folic acid? No to all And she took too much of it? So, no Drinking relevant? Yes Smoking? No | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1463 Registered: 12-2010 |
Did he tell her not to drink? to drink? Did the child develop fetal alcohol syndrome? | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 779 Registered: 7-2010 |
Did he tell her not to drink? to drink? This. Explore. Did the child develop fetal alcohol syndrome? YES | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1464 Registered: 12-2010 |
Did he tell her it might be good to have suchandsuch an amount of alcohol during pregnancy? Did she drink more than he said? Was she a teetotaller before her pregnancy? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1269 Registered: 8-2001 |
Did she misunderstand the amount that she should drink? Something about "a glass" (which denoted a specific amount) whereas she was filling a glass they happened to have, which was larger than the recommendation? Differences in type of alcohol? Like drinking a glass of wine versus drinking a glass of hard liquor (straight, one assumes which *shiver*)? | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 780 Registered: 7-2010 |
Did he tell her it might be good to have suchandsuch an amount of alcohol during pregnancy? Did she drink more than he said? Was she a teetotaller before her pregnancy? No to all | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1270 Registered: 8-2001 |
*cough* Please see my questions. | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 781 Registered: 7-2010 |
*cough* Please see my questions. Oops. Sorry for that. Did she misunderstand the amount that she should drink? No Something about "a glass" (which denoted a specific amount) whereas she was filling a glass they happened to have, which was larger than the recommendation? No Differences in type of alcohol? No Like drinking a glass of wine versus drinking a glass of hard liquor (straight, one assumes which *shiver*)? Thus no | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 918 Registered: 2-2011 |
did Frank tell his wife to take cough medecine or some sort of tonic which he didn't realise contained alcohol? | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 785 Registered: 7-2010 |
did Frank tell his wife to take cough medecine or some sort of tonic which he didn't realise contained alcohol? No, but it's somewhat OTRT | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 923 Registered: 2-2011 |
did he tell her to take something? did it contain alcohol? did it contain another substance which had the ame effect that alcohol would have? | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 788 Registered: 7-2010 |
did he tell her to take something? Yes did it contain alcohol? Yes, it was alcoholic drinks did it contain another substance which had the ame effect that alcohol would have? No, FA | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 924 Registered: 2-2011 |
did Frank know that the drinks contained alcohol? | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 789 Registered: 7-2010 |
did Frank know that the drinks contained alcohol? Yes | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 930 Registered: 2-2011 |
did Frank think this kind of alcohol didn't count? | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 791 Registered: 7-2010 |
did Frank think this kind of alcohol didn't count? Yope | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 794 Registered: 7-2010 |
BLOOPER: Did he tell her it might be good to have suchandsuch an amount of alcohol during pregnancy? No, but... | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1280 Registered: 8-2001 |
So Frank encouraged his wife (can we call her Fiona?) to drink something during pregnancy? Which he knew contained alcohol? But for reasons not determined, he thought the alcohol wouldn't hurt the baby? Was the drink clearly an alcoholic beverage? Wine? Beer? Some sort of mixed drink? Was it marketed/presented as medicine? Kind of alcohol - I'm guessing ethanol? Because if it was methanol she'd be dead... Was he encouraging Fiona to drink the beverage because of other ingredients it contained? Was it some sort of energy shot? | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 800 Registered: 7-2010 |
So Frank encouraged his wife (can we call her Fiona? Sure) to drink something during pregnancy? Yesish Which he knew contained alcohol? Yes But for reasons not determined, he thought the alcohol wouldn't hurt the baby? Yope. Explore. Was the drink clearly an alcoholic beverage? Yes Wine? Beer? Some sort of mixed drink? No to all Was it marketed/presented as medicine? Noish to yope. Good question. Explore. Kind of alcohol - I'm guessing ethanol? Right Because if it was methanol she'd be dead... Well, that'd be bad Was he encouraging Fiona to drink the beverage because of other ingredients it contained? Could be, but I think it's mainly the alcohol Was it some sort of energy shot? No | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1506 Registered: 12-2010 |
Did Frank know she was pregnant? | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 840 Registered: 1-2011 |
Did Frank advise Fiona to drink the alcoholic beverage for her own benefit? For child's benefit? For someone else's benefit? Is it relevant at which stage of pregnancy was Fiona when Frank advised her to drink alcohol? Did Frank misunderstand the drink's advertisements? | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 803 Registered: 7-2010 |
Did Frank know she was pregnant? NO! Did Frank advise Fiona to drink the alcoholic beverage for her own benefit? This. Explore. For child's benefit? For someone else's benefit? Is it relevant at which stage of pregnancy was Fiona when Frank advised her to drink alcohol? Yes, at the beginning. However... Did Frank misunderstand the drink's advertisements? No | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1512 Registered: 12-2010 |
Did Fiona know she was pregnant? Was she showing "pregnancy symptoms" (e.g. morning sickness) and Frank mistook them for symptoms of something else? Which he thought could be cured with alcohol? | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1308 Registered: 8-2001 |
Was Frank trying to get her drunk? Not drunk but relaxed? Were Fiona and Frank trying to get pregnant? Were, err...how do I ask this delicately...Were they having marital difficulties and Frank thought a drink or two would better facilitate intimacy? (On reflection, I think my abstract phrasing actually made that LESS delicate...) Was Fiona having trouble sleeping? Muscle or back pain? | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 805 Registered: 7-2010 |
Did Fiona know she was pregnant? No Was she showing "pregnancy symptoms" (e.g. morning sickness) and Frank mistook them for symptoms of something else? Yes Which he thought could be cured with alcohol? Yes Was Frank trying to get her drunk? No Not drunk but relaxed? Yesish Were Fiona and Frank trying to get pregnant? No Were, err...how do I ask this delicately...Were they having marital difficulties and Frank thought a drink or two would better facilitate intimacy? No (On reflection, I think my abstract phrasing actually made that LESS delicate...) xD Was Fiona having trouble sleeping? No Muscle or back pain? No You-know-what is in the making... | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 806 Registered: 7-2010 |
*********** SPOILER *********** I guess you all have read or heard at least once about women giving birth in random places without even having been aware of being pregnant. Well, Fiona is one of them. When she was pregnant, she didn't develop any of the typical signs of pregnancy, except for occasional feelings of sickness. Frank, her husband, however related that to stomach problems and suggested that she should drink a schnapps whenever she feels unwell. Due to the alcohol exposure during the entire pregnancy, the couple's baby developed Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. Great work, everyone! | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1319 Registered: 8-2001 |
Nice puzzle! | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 807 Registered: 7-2010 |
Thanks :-) | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 953 Registered: 2-2011 |
that's terrible! | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1518 Registered: 12-2010 |
Very good puzzle! Although I absolutely don't understand how a woman fails to notice she's pregnant. | ||
| Potato (Potato)
New member Username: Potato Post Number: 815 Registered: 7-2010 |
Neither do I, to be honest, but apparently, this does happen... | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1331 Registered: 8-2001 |
It happens with some regularity actually. And if you have no real symptoms, including no major weight gain, maybe some health issues, and had irregular cycles...then yeah, I can see really easily how it would happen. |
