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Doriana (Doriana)
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 - 7:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Nora got a better grade because she hadn't read her e-mails.

This is very, very loosely based on a situation I found myself in last week.
Nora is H/youngA/F
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 - 10:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the movie relevant at all?
Doriana (Doriana)
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Posted on Sunday, June 05, 2011 - 10:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the movie relevant at all? no - I was actually thinking about this voice you hear when you receive new e-mails in AOL. But that's not relevant either.
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Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 2:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she get a better grade on an exam?
On a paper?
On a group project?
On a project only she was working on?

Did she miss to read one mail?
Two mails?
More?

Did the mail(s) come from her school/college?
From her friends?
From her family?
From fellow students?

Was the mail an invitation to something?
To an event taking place in the time when she was studying?

Was it bad news?
That would've upset her too much to focus on her studies?

Did the mail say that her exam/deadline was brought forward/postponed/cancelled?
And this was revoked in a later mail?
Doriana (Doriana)
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Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 7:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she get a better grade on an exam?
On a paper?
On a group project?
On a project only she was working on?
all are possible, let's assume a paper

Did she miss to read one mail? this
Two mails?
More?

Did the mail(s) come from her school/college? yes
From her friends?
From her family?
From fellow students?
no to rest
Was the mail an invitation to something? no
To an event taking place in the time when she was studying? no

Was it bad news? no
That would've upset her too much to focus on her studies? so, no

Did the mail say that her exam/deadline was brought forward/postponed/cancelled? no
And this was revoked in a later mail? no
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Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 12:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is she a college student?
A high school student?
A student of another kind of school?
Is this relevant?

Was the mail sent by her teacher/professor?
By the school administration?

Was the mail sent to her by accident?
Did the mail contain information she wasn't supposed to know about?

Was the mail sent to other students, too?
To those who had to write the same paper?
Or to Nora only?

Is the date of her deadline relevant?

Did the mail contain information on whom to give her paper to?
Anything concering the content of her paper?
How to format the paper?
Any information on formalities?
Did the mail have to do with her paper at all?

Did she get the better grade on her paper?
On her report card?

If she had read her mails, would she definitely have gotten a lower grade?
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Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 12:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did the email tell her class was cancelled? That the university was closed (say, due to weather)? And therefore, that the paper was not due as soon as Nora thought it would? So she finished it early? And had she not finished it early (which she thought was on time) something would have caused her to do a worse job? Like, for instance, her computer crashing the day after she thought it was due and she lost all her data but she had already submitted it?
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Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 7:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is she a college student? yes
A high school student? much less likely
A student of another kind of school? no
Is this relevant? yesish

Was the mail sent by her teacher/professor? yes
By the school administration? no

Was the mail sent to her by accident? no
Did the mail contain information she wasn't supposed to know about? no

Was the mail sent to other students, too? yes
To those who had to write the same paper? yes, or let's say who were taking the same class, see below
Or to Nora only? no

Is the date of her deadline relevant? no - it does not have to be a paper, could be an exam or the overall grade as well

Did the mail contain information on whom to give her paper to?
Anything concering the content of her paper?
How to format the paper?
Any information on formalities?
Did the mail have to do with her paper at all? no, good q, and see below

Did she get the better grade on her paper?
On her report card? both are possible

If she had read her mails, would she definitely have gotten a lower grade? no

Did the email tell her class was cancelled? yes! That the university was closed (say, due to weather)? no And therefore, that the paper was not due as soon as Nora thought it would? no So she finished it early? no And had she not finished it early (which she thought was on time) something would have caused her to do a worse job? no Like, for instance, her computer crashing the day after she thought it was due and she lost all her data but she had already submitted it? no, but a nice thought!
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Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 8:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the class indeed cancelled?
Relevant why she did not read her e-mails? Did she receive the mail at all?
As she did not know that the class was cancelled, did she go to her class? Relevant what she did during the time when her class would have been? Did she meet somebody? Get some information that helped her with a better grade?
Actually, did she get the better grade because she handed in a better paper? or for some other reason? Did she get bonus points for finishing earlier than required? for doing more than required?
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Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 8:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the class indeed cancelled? yes
Relevant why she did not read her e-mails? no Did she receive the mail at all? yes
As she did not know that the class was cancelled, did she go to her class? yes Relevant what she did during the time when her class would have been? not during the time, but... Did she meet somebody? no Get some information that helped her with a better grade? yesish, explore
Actually, did she get the better grade because she handed in a better paper? no or for some other reason? yes! very good q Did she get bonus points for finishing earlier than required? no for doing more than required? no
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Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 9:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the professor in the classroom anyway? As a trick? As in "see how many people will get the message and still come to class to hand in the paper like they're supposed to"? Did any other students not get the email and go to class? Get the email and go to class anyway? If so, did they get higher grades too? If not, would they have gotten higher grades if they did not get the email and went to class? If the entire class failed to get the email and they all went to class, would they all get higher grades? Most people? None of them?
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Posted on Monday, June 06, 2011 - 9:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was the professor in the classroom anyway? no As a trick? no As in "see how many people will get the message and still come to class to hand in the paper like they're supposed to"? no, but that's a clever idea Did any other students not get the email and go to class? irrel Get the email and go to class anyway? irrel If so, did they get higher grades too? no If not, would they have gotten higher grades if they did not get the email and went to class? only under very specific circumstances If the entire class failed to get the email and they all went to class, would they all get higher grades? no Most people? no None of them? no
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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 2:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she decide that now that she was at college anyway, she could go to the library and do more research?
And there she found information that greatly helped her understand something?
Upon reading additional material, did she realize that she had misunderstood something earlier?
That there was an error in her professor's documents that she had been working with?

Or did she just stumble upon information that helped her improve her paper at some point on her way to college or back? Like, on a poster?
Was something relevant written on the board in her classroom?
Was a relevant item in the classroom?
If so, did it belong to her professor?
Some other professor?
Another college employee?
Another student?

Is the topic of her paper relevant?
Is the subject?
Doriana (Doriana)
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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 8:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she decide that now that she was at college anyway, she could go to the library and do more research?
And there she found information that greatly helped her understand something?
Upon reading additional material, did she realize that she had misunderstood something earlier?
That there was an error in her professor's documents that she had been working with?
no to all

Or did she just stumble upon information that helped her improve her paper at some point on her way to college or back? noish, but explore Like, on a poster? no
Was something relevant written on the board in her classroom? no, possibly an FA
Was a relevant item in the classroom? no
If so, did it belong to her professor?
Some other professor?
Another college employee?
Another student?
no to rest

Is the topic of her paper relevant?
Is the subject?
no to both
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Was she in the classroom? Was the classroom door open? Did she arrive at the college at all? or changed her mind halfway and go somewhere else? Did she meet somebody on the way? Receive a phone call or SMS?
Is the subject of her paper relevant? the subject of the class?
Relevant what other classes she is taking?
Was the paper for the class that was cancelled? or for another class?
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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 10:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was she in the classroom? yes, but... Was the classroom door open? irrel Did she arrive at the college at all? yes or changed her mind halfway and go somewhere else? no Did she meet somebody on the way? yope, DOYD of meet, explore Receive a phone call or SMS? no
Is the subject of her paper relevant? the subject of the class? no to both
Relevant what other classes she is taking? no
Was the paper for the class that was cancelled? this or for another class?
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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 10:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Meet:
Did she and the relevant person(s) incidentally cross paths?
Did she purposely seek out the relevant person(s)?
Did they seek her out?

Is it only one person?
More?

Do(es) the person(s) have any relation to her class?
To her college?
Was it
...the professor of the relevant class?
...another professor?
...a fellow student?
...somebody who could tutor her / proofread her paper?

Did she do anything relevant in the classroom?
Did she
...read something?
...otherwise look at something?
...hear something?
...take something?

Did anything that she did there make her realize that she still had to do something on her paper?
Or that she still had to check something?
If so, did it have to do with
...its content?
...its formatting?
...any kind of identification, such as the mention of her name?

If it wasn't her actions that made her realize the above, was it the person(s) she met?
She yopishly met them on their way to college, not on her way back, right?
Did the other person(s) accompany her to college?
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Posted on Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - 11:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Meet:
Did she and the relevant person(s) incidentally cross paths? this is closest, but not quite it
Did she purposely seek out the relevant person(s)?
Did they seek her out?
no to rest

Is it only one person?
More? this!

Do(es) the person(s) have any relation to her class? yes
To her college? yes
Was it
...the professor of the relevant class? YES
...another professor? no
...a fellow student? yes
...somebody who could tutor her / proofread her paper? no

Did she do anything relevant in the classroom? no
Did she
...read something?
...otherwise look at something?
...hear something?
...take something?

Did anything that she did there make her realize that she still had to do something on her paper? no
Or that she still had to check something? no
If so, did it have to do with
...its content?
...its formatting?
...any kind of identification, such as the mention of her name?

If it wasn't her actions that made her realize the above, was it the person(s) she met? no
She yopishly met them on their way to college, not on her way back, right? indeed
Did the other person(s) accompany her to college? no

Small hint: Don't focus on the paper. It could be an exam grade or the overall grade as well, so it's got nothing to do with deadlines, proofreading or paper writing.

And here's a RECAP:
Nora went to college because she had not read an e-mail that would have told her a class was cancelled. On her way to college she yopishly met both the professor of this class and a fellow student.
For a reason yet to be determined, this helped her get a better grade in this class.
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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 1:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the professor male? Female?
Is the fellow student male? Female?
Is this relevant?

Were the professor and the fellow student talking to each other?
Did Nora overhear their conversiation?
Did they talk about the paper?
Did Nora join in their conversation?
Did the professor tell Nora something that would later help her improve her grade?
Did she, in some way, gather "sympathy points" from her professor?
If so, is it because she went to college without having to?
Did Nora lie to the professor at some point?

Did Nora just see the two of them from a distance?
And she neither talked to them nor heard anything they said?

Were the professor and the fellow student doing something that a professor and a student shouldn't do (whatever that is... xD)?

Were the professor and the fellow student interacting at all?
Were they even anywhere near each other?
Or did Nora encounter them at different times?
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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 6:14 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is the professor male? Female?
Is the fellow student male? Female?
Is this relevant? It's most likely that the professor was male and the student female, see below

Were the professor and the fellow student talking to each other? no
Did Nora overhear their conversiation? no
Did they talk about the paper?
Did Nora join in their conversation?
Did the professor tell Nora something that would later help her improve her grade?
Did she, in some way, gather "sympathy points" from her professor?
If so, is it because she went to college without having to?
Did Nora lie to the professor at some point?
no to all, and a minor FA

Did Nora just see the two of them from a distance? yes- FA cleared up (:
And she neither talked to them nor heard anything they said? correct

Were the professor and the fellow student doing something that a professor and a student shouldn't do (whatever that is... xD)? YES!

Were the professor and the fellow student interacting at all? yes
Were they even anywhere near each other? yes
Or did Nora encounter them at different times? no
Very good round of q!
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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 1:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did Nora then threaten the teacher that she will reveal whatever she saw and in return got a better grade?

Did she include some information from what she saw in the paper?

Did she take pictures of what she saw?

The thing the professor and the student did -- was it a criminal offense? Or merely an unprofessional / unethical behavior? Something that contradicted the school's rules? Something that, if revealed, could endanger the professor's position? The student's? Put any of them in jeopardy of life o limb?
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Did Nora then threaten the teacher that she will reveal whatever she saw and in return got a better grade? YES indeed!

Did she include some information from what she saw in the paper? no, but a nice idea

Did she take pictures of what she saw? maybe

The thing the professor and the student did -- was it a criminal offense? no Or merely an unprofessional / unethical behavior? yope Something that contradicted the school's rules? not officially Something that, if revealed, could endanger the professor's position? possibly The student's? possibly Put any of them in jeopardy of life o limb? no
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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 3:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Relevant what they did?
Did they kiss?
Or did they do something else that made it evident that they had an affair?

Relevant where they were?
Are there other relevant persons involved?
Did an accident or a crime happen and they didn't do anything to help?
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Posted on Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - 5:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Relevant what they did? yes
Did they kiss? yes
Or did they do something else that made it evident that they had an affair? {maybe that too}

Relevant where they were?
Are there other relevant persons involved?
Did an accident or a crime happen and they didn't do anything to help? no to rest, and I think we have enough for a

********SPOILER********
Nora went to college because she had not read an e-mail that would have told her a class was cancelled. On her way to college she saw her professor and a fellow student making out.
She then blackmailed her professor into giving her a better grade on her paper/exam and threatened him to tell everyone about his affair. Since this would ruin his reputation and could endanger his position, he gave in.


The "true" story is a lot less spectacular: I saw a teacher from my old school being pulled over because she was using the wrong bike lane, and then I jokingly told her I would tell everyone about her little encounter with the police if she didn't give her students better grades on their next test.

Thanks for playing (:
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Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - 8:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Very nice! Though I guess the state of his reputation would depend on what sort of school he was at.

Which only makes me think of this quote from the movie "Clue".

Miss Scarlet: I hardly think it will enhance your reputation at the U.N. Professor Plum, if it's revealed that you have been implicated not only in adultery with one of your patients, but in her death and the deaths of five other people.

Professor Plum: You don't know what kind of people they have at the U.N., I might go up in their estimation.

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