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Yatin509 (Yatin509)
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The doctor and the nurse had a party after the Police went back. What happened?


(Based on a real incident)
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The doctor: HAM?
The nurse: HAF?
The police: Several HAMs and/or HAFs?

Was the doctor really a doctor?
Was the nurse really a nurse?
Were the police really the police?
Dressing up relevant?

Party = celebrating with friends?

Did they party because of
...a birthday?
...a holiday?
...somebody's success in school/at work?
...somebody's marriage?
...an anniversary?
...an event such as the win of a team in sports?
...they simply felt like partying?

Did both doctor and the nurse attend the same party?
Or did they attend different parties?

Was the doctor hosting the party?
Did the nurse host it?
Did somebody else host it?

Was the police around because of
...loud music?
...loud voices?
...a crime?
...security reasons?

Were the police involved in the party?
Did the police go back to the police station?
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Was the party held:
outdoors?
indoors?
in a large building (such as a hospital)?
in a pub?
in a house?
in a bedroom?
in a bed?

Was there a case of mistaken identity?

Was the real incident reported in the news?
Or spread by word of mouth?
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POTATO
The doctor: HAM? Yes
The nurse: HAF? Yes
The police: Several HAMs and/or HAFs? yes

Was the doctor really a doctor? yes
Was the nurse really a nurse? yes
Were the police really the police? yes
Dressing up relevant? no

Party = celebrating with friends? yes

Did they party because of
...a birthday?
...a holiday?
...somebody's success in school/at work?
...somebody's marriage?
...an anniversary?
...an event such as the win of a team in sports?
...they simply felt like partying?
none of these
Did both doctor and the nurse attend the same party? yes
Or did they attend different parties?

Was the doctor hosting the party? yes but this is irrelevant
Did the nurse host it?
Did somebody else host it?

Was the police around because of
...loud music?
...loud voices?
...a crime? this
...security reasons?

Were the police involved in the party? no
Did the police go back to the police station? maybe but not relevant

Fionakelleghan
Was the party held:
outdoors?
indoors?
in a large building (such as a hospital)? this
in a pub?
in a house?
in a bedroom?
in a bed?

Was there a case of mistaken identity? YOPE

Was the real incident reported in the news? Maybe, I don't know
Or spread by word of mouth? I know through this
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was the crime burglary? murder? rape? breaking and entering? fraud? trespass? mugging? another type of robbery? kidnap? vagrancy? causing an affray?
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Did the party take place in the hospital?
Was it a party for the hospital staff?

Did the police and the doctor interact?
Did the police and the nurse interact?

Were the police
...in the hospital?
...on the street?
...on the road, performing traffic control?
...at the doctor's home?
...at the nurse's home?
...at the home of someone else working for the hospital?
...at the home of someone who has no relation to the doctor, nurse and hospital?
...in a building somewhere near the hospital?
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Shez

was the crime burglary? murder? rape? breaking and entering? fraud? trespass? mugging? another type of robbery? Police came because of a case of a robbery kidnap? vagrancy? causing an affray?
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POTATO

Did the party take place in the hospital? yes, it was a small party
Was it a party for the hospital staff? irrelevant but can say yes

Did the police and the doctor interact? yes
Did the police and the nurse interact? no

Were the police
...in the hospital? if you mean where they met the doctor then the answer is Hospital
...on the street?
...on the road, performing traffic control?
...at the doctor's home?
...at the nurse's home?
...at the home of someone else working for the hospital?
...at the home of someone who has no relation to the doctor, nurse and hospital?
...in a building somewhere near the hospital?
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Was the party planned ahead of time?

Were they celebrating that the police went away?

You say it was a small party. Were a few people, who knew that the police had come and gone, present explicitly for the party?

Was the party held for everyone in the room? or the building?
or for a favored few?

Did the folks involved:

glance around suspiciously at other people
or turn on the TV
or worry that this event might become breaking news online?

What was the reason for the identity problem?

Was a family relationship the cause for the party?
Or of the police arriving?

Did these folks notice, or not notice, that a special [maybe suspicious] person might be physically close to them?

Oh wait, I remember this case!
Well, no, sorry. It was a real factual story here in Miami, but it wasn't robbery. It was another type of criminal activity. Dang.

Yet I could use it as a future puzzle...
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Was the party planned ahead of time? no

Were they celebrating that the police went away? YOPE

You say it was a small party. Were a few people, who knew that the police had come and gone, present explicitly for the party? party was held after police went so the people present didn't had a clue what happened

Was the party held for everyone in the room? or the building?
or for a favored few? irrelevant

Did the folks involved:

glance around suspiciously at other people
or turn on the TV
or worry that this event might become breaking news online? no

What was the reason for the identity problem?
I said for it YOPE anyway the police asked something but it was proved wrong by the doctor
Was a family relationship the cause for the party?
Or of the police arriving? no, the party was held hours after police went

Did these folks notice, or not notice, that a special [maybe suspicious] person might be physically close to them? no one except doctor and nurse knew about something wrong

Oh wait, I remember this case!
Well, no, sorry. It was a real factual story here in Miami, but it wasn't robbery. It was another type of criminal activity. Dang.

Yet I could use it as a future puzzle...
Best Of Luck for it, I will try my best to solve it
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Relevant who called the police?

Is it relevant that one of the persons was a doctor (i.e., somebody with medical knowledge)?

Did a robbery take place anyway? If yes, did it happen on the hospital premises? Relevant how the robber (if any) tried to threat the victim(s)?

Did the police think that the suspect was still there? That the victim was still there? Did they try to establish the identity of either the suspect or the alleged victim?

Was either the doctor or the nurse the alleged robber(s)? The alleged victim(s)?

Did the doctor and the nurse tried to perform a medical procedure (like surgery) that someone mistaken to be an attempted robbery?
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Rbruma

Relevant who called the police? no but they came on their own

Is it relevant that one of the persons was a doctor (i.e., somebody with medical knowledge)?
yes
Did a robbery take place anyway? If yes, did it happen on the hospital premises? robbery happened but not in the hospital Relevant how the robber (if any) tried to threat the victim(s)?
no
Did the police think that the suspect was still there? That the victim was still there? Did they try to establish the identity of either the suspect or the alleged victim? yes they thought the suspect was still there but there was no victim

Was either the doctor or the nurse the alleged robber(s)?no The alleged victim(s)? no

Did the doctor and the nurse tried to perform a medical procedure (like surgery) that someone mistaken to be an attempted robbery? no
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Did the party occur in a hospital?
Did the alleged robbery occur in the same hospital?

Did a robbery actually occur? Was something stolen from the doctor? nurse? hospital? Was medical equipment stolen? Supplies? Were stolen goods used in the party?

Were either the doctor or nurse guilty of the crime? An accomplice? Complicit? Allowed the crime via incompetence?

Did the criminal get away with it? Was anyone besides the doctor+nurse at the party? Was the criminal there?
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Did the party occur in a hospital? yes it was rather like a treat we give to our friends.
Did the alleged robbery occur in the same hospital? no

Did a robbery actually occur? yes Was something stolen from the doctor? nurse? hospital? Was medical equipment stolen? Supplies? Were stolen goods used in the party? no to all

Were either the doctor or nurse guilty of the crime? you mean the robbery no
An accomplice? Complicit? Allowed the crime via incompetence? no

Did the criminal get away with it? no Was anyone besides the doctor+nurse at the party? yes their friends Was the criminal there? no
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was the party a celebration? a birthday? anniversary? retirement? a thankyou?

were presents stolen?
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Did everyone gather for a easily recognizable activity such as Halloween?

Did the perpetrator speak to anyone?
Is it relevant if anyone at the party spoke?
Is it relevant that people at the party spoke together?
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Did any of the people at this party decide to help themselves to laughing gas or another type of happy substance?
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Shez
was the party a celebration? a birthday? anniversary? retirement? a thankyou? none of these

were presents stolen? no
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/b{Fionakellegham}
Did everyone gather for a easily recognizable activity such as Halloween? no

Did the perpetrator speak to anyone? yes
Is it relevant if anyone at the party spoke? no
Is it relevant that people at the party spoke together? no
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Fionakellegham
Did everyone gather for a easily recognizable activity such as Halloween? no

Did the perpetrator speak to anyone? yes
Is it relevant if anyone at the party spoke? no
Is it relevant that people at the party spoke together? no
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Fionakellegham

Did any of the people at this party decide to help themselves to laughing gas or another type of happy substance? no
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Hint - Headline of Next Day's News Daily - 3 Million stolen from Nank Bank
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Come people ask something I am bored
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*nudge* One of the best ways to get folks playing YOUR puzzles is to post questions on theirs too. :D

So, a robbery happened somewhere that was not the hospital, yes?
Are any other details of the robbery relevant?
The police came to the hospital looking for the robber, yes?
Did they have reason to believe he/she would be there?
Is the robber HAM? Relevant?
Was there evidence at the scene of the crime that the robber had been injured?
Something like broken glass and blood?
Hinting that the robber had cut him/herself?
Is it relevant what was stolen?
Was it a car or other vehicle?
Was the car sitting outside the hospital?

Did the police think the robber was there as a patient?
Did the police think the robber was one of the staff?
A visitor to the hospital?
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Well I do that, anyway

So, a robbery happened somewhere that was not the hospital, yes? yes
Are any other details of the robbery relevant? yes
The police came to the hospital looking for the robber, yes? yes
Did they have reason to believe he/she would be there? yes
Is the robber HAM? yes Relevant? no but you can suppose it to imagine
Was there evidence at the scene of the crime that the robber had been injured? no
Something like broken glass and blood? no
Hinting that the robber had cut him/herself? no
Is it relevant what was stolen? yope
Was it a car or other vehicle? it was money which was stolen
Was the car sitting outside the hospital?

Did the police think the robber was there as a patient? yes
Did the police think the robber was one of the staff? no
A visitor to the hospital?
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Had the robber been there?

Had the docctor treated the robber and been given some of the money to keep quiet and that's why they had a party?

had the robber been there and accidentally left the bag wit the money?
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Shez

Had the robber been there? yes

Had the docctor treated the robber and been given some of the money to keep quiet yes and that's why they had a party? no

had the robber been there and accidentally left the bag wit the money?no
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Okay, the crime was robbery, but was it an "inside" job?

The alleged robbery did not occur in the same hospital, you said, but the robber(s) decide that the area of the hospital was a good place to plan a heist?

Was there a heist of an armored car, such as a Brinks trunk?

If so, did the truck pull up the building to collect or to disburse money?
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I want to be really clear about this. Some or one people knew that the police had (1) entered the hospital or (2) that robbers (or friends of the robbers) were (3) in the vicinity of the hospital or were (4) at the party.

Is that correct?
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I'm going to attempt a minor or pseudo RECAP here, focusing on all of the "YOPEs."

Yatin, I wrote: "Was there a case of mistaken identity?" and you answered "YOPE"

and I asked, "spread by word of mouth?" and you said "I know through this."

I wrote, "Is it relevant what was stolen?" and you answered "yope" - so I'm guessing that the YOPEs are important...

Hang fire, I think I had another YOPE - but I need to leave for a few minutes. Hope to be back shortly.

(It's just the feral cats and the opossums in the back yard. I love them and feed them, but I might get in trouble for doing so, so it's always in the middle of the night. I know, you're all thinking, "Wow, Fiona is such a rebel!"
(but don't bother to do so) :D
Hasta luego,
Fiona
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A few general questions:

Did this event occur in the US? Does it matter where it occured?

Does it matter what time of year it occured?

Does it matter whether the people involved (1) spoke the same language, (2) came from the same part of the world, (3) were brought together by some strong personality with big heist plans?

Or, since you said the mistaken identity:

(1) Did this start out to be a gang, but the plan fizzled?

(2) Did the event prove successful, even if not all of them survived or were arrested?

(3) Was a cop going under cover?

(4) Was one of the members undercover?

Many of us are referring to "the robber" or "the robbers" - please tell us which.

And - sorry if I missed this - is the hospital very close to the crime? Is that why the hospital is in this puzzle?

Night, all.
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Fionakellegham

Okay, the crime was robbery, but was it an "inside" job? no

The alleged robbery did not occur in the same hospital, you said, but the robber(s) decide that the area of the hospital was a good place to plan a heist? no

Was there a heist of an armored car, such as a Brinks trunk? no

If so, did the truck pull up the building to collect or to disburse money? no


(It's just the feral cats and the opossums in the back yard. I love them and feed them, but I might get in trouble for doing so, so it's always in the middle of the night. I know, you're all thinking, "Wow, Fiona is such a rebel!"
(but don't bother to do so) :D
Hasta luego,
Fiona/i{very nice of you}


A few general questions:

Did this event occur in the US? Does it matter where it occured? doesn't matter

Does it matter what time of year it occured?
no
Does it matter whether the people involved (1) spoke the same language, (2) came from the same part of the world, (3) were brought together by some strong personality with big heist plans? no to all

Or, since you said the mistaken identity:

(1) Did this start out to be a gang, but the plan fizzled? no

(2) Did the event prove successful, even if not all of them survived or were arrested? it wasn't successful for the robber as it did for the doctor

(3) Was a cop going under cover? no

(4) Was one of the members undercover? no

Many of us are referring to "the robber" or "the robbers" - please tell us which. robber i.e singular

And - sorry if I missed this - is the hospital very close to the crime? Is that why the hospital is in this puzzle? no that isn't why the hospital is there in the puzzle

Night, all.

Hint - Find more about the robber
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The robber - H/A/M?

did he get away in the end? did he die from his injuries?
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Shez

The robber - H/A/M? yes

did he get away in the end? did he die from his injuries? Well he died but not of injuries
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"did he get away in the end? did he die from his injuries?" "Well he died but not of injuries"

Ah. The robber got stuck in the elevator and died of boredom listening to the muzak. OK, sorry...

First, I want to be real clear: this was a robbery and not a burglary or an extortion?

Was the robber known personally by the folks who eventually celebrated with a party?

Or, in the other direction, did the robber know all, or some, or one of the party people?

Did race, age, stupidity, or artistic personality have anything to do with what happened?

Was the robber actually related by family to one or some of the people?

Was he half of a separated pair of Siamese twins and was angry at the doctor, because he wanted them to be put back together again?

Alternately, did the robber see the twin of someone he thought he knew?

Was the robber wearing a disguise, hoping not to be identified?

Perhaps IRR, but I'm trying to form a picture here, so you might, to be nice, make it up if necessary:
Age: 10-20?, 21-30?, 31-40?, 41-50? and so on.

Has the robber been in trouble in the past?
- As a child, was he caught stealing candy or bicycles?
- As a teenager, was he a car jacker, a frightener, or member of a gang?
- At college age, involved with the drug trade?

I'm not as brave as these other LP-ers, who list every single possibility down to the location of air microbes :-D but please help us if we need to know that the guy has a history.

I want to know about the time factor. Did the robber
- hear about the likeliness for the job way earlier, and take time to research for possibilities, improbabilities, and so on?
- take days or weeks to plan the job?
- take a day or so?
- Did the actual event (including planning) take place in a single day? In a few hours?
- Did his death take place on the same day?
- Was he brought to trial, and died because of it?

Yatin, I'm really enjoying this puzzle!

I suppose each of us brings some expectations or biases when we start to ask questions but, having several players who can bounce ideas, I realize it's much more fun this way. However have I lasted this long without knowing this board existed? And I miss the years I might have known you great folks!

[I'm not licking butt - I really am so delighted that I've found you!]

And somehow it's even more fun that we're having a rainstorm here in Miami. More atmosphere!
Fiona
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Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2011 - 10:51 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Fiona

Ah. The robber got stuck in the elevator and died of boredom listening to the muzak.nooooooo OK, sorry...

First, I want to be real clear: this was a robbery and not a burglary or an extortion? yes he robbed a bank

Was the robber known personally by the folks who eventually celebrated with a party? You mean the doctor and nurse then yes otherwise no

Or, in the other direction, did the robber know all, or somedoctor and nurse, or one of the party people?

Did race, age, stupidityYes maybe of the robber, or artistic personality have anything to do with what happened?

Was the robber actually related by family to one or some of the people? no

Was he half of a separated pair of Siamese twins and was angry at the doctor, because he wanted them to be put back together again? no

Alternately, did the robber see the twin of someone he thought he knew? no twins at all

Was the robber wearing a disguise, hoping not to be identified? he was a real doctor with an legal degree

Perhaps IRR, but I'm trying to form a picture here, so you might, to be nice, make it up if necessary:
Age: 10-20?, 21-30?this, 31-40?, 41-50? and so on.

Has the robber been in trouble in the past?
- As a child, was he caught stealing candy or bicycles?
- As a teenager, was he a car jacker, a frightener, or member of a gang?
- At college age, involved with the drug trade?
Irrelevant but this was his first robbery and he then did something stupid which he thought was smart
I'm not as brave as these other LP-ers, who list every single possibility down to the location of air microbes :-D but please help us if we need to know that the guy has a history. This is his 1st robbery. Why don't you find out more about how he died and where the doctor was involved

I want to know about the time factor. Did the robber
- hear about the likeliness for the job way earlier, and take time to research for possibilities, improbabilities, and so on?
- take days or weeks to plan the job?
- take a day or so?
- Did the actual event (including planning) take place in a single day? This In a few hours?
- Did his death take place on the same day? yes
- Was he brought to trial, and died because of it?
no
I am sorry you had to type so long . You could have asked for it directly it's not even close to a clue
Yatin, I'm really enjoying this puzzle!
Thank you
I suppose each of us brings some expectations or biases when we start to ask questions but, having several players who can bounce ideas, I realize it's much more fun this way. However have I lasted this long without knowing this board existed? And I miss the years I might have known you great folks!

[I'm not licking butt - I really am so delighted that I've found you!]
I feel the same for here
And somehow it's even more fun that we're having a rainstorm here in Miami. More atmosphere!
Fiona
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Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2011 - 11:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did the robber die as a result of his own stupidity?
did he die as a result of something the doctor had done?
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Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2011 - 11:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did the robber die as a result of his own stupidity?
did he die as a result of something the doctor had done?

Yes!!!!!!!!both of these
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Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2011 - 12:06 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did the doctor deliberately cause his death?

did the robber lie about something? did he neglect to tell the doctor something?
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Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2011 - 1:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

did the doctor deliberately cause his death? YES!!!

did the robber lie about something? did he neglect to tell the doctor something? He told him everything that was his stupidity!!!
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Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2011 - 5:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

OK, so the doctor knew about the robbery and the money, so when he treated the robber did he leave some sort of medical time bomb in or on his body?

like deliberately infecting a wound so that he wound? or admistering a drug which would kill him later?
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Posted on Saturday, July 09, 2011 - 6:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Shez

OK, so the doctor knew about the robbery and the money, so when he treated the robber did he leave some sort of medical time bomb in or on his body? Yes he did but where's the stupidity just find it and a $poiler coming up

like deliberately infecting a wound so that he wound? or admistering a drug which would kill him later?he had no problem ... He went to the doc on his own


95% completed
Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
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Posted on Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 3:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Okay, the robber knew the doctor. Did the robber bring the 3 million (that has to be a big weight!) to ask the doctor to hide it for a while?

Is it relevent if the robber hurried right into the hospital to speak to the doctor? Or did the robber eventually happen to think of his friend, since they are both doctors? (I think that is what you said.)

Did the robber die in hours? in minutes?

Did the robber think that he and the doctor were friends? Did the doctor dislike him?

Was the robber still alive when the police came, or did the doctor call the police because the robber was dead by this time?

Did the doctor and nurse acquire the 3 million, hence the party?

I like Shez's idea of a medical booby trap. Does it matter where, precisely, in the hospital when the robber died?
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Posted on Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 8:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Fiona



Okay, the robber knew the doctor. Did the robber bring the 3 million (that has to be a big weight!)to ask the doctor to hide it for a while? /b{YES!!!!!! This was his stupidity }

Is it relevent if the robber hurried right into the hospital to speak to the doctor? Or did the robber eventually happen to think of his friend, since they are both doctors? (I think that is what you said.) Yes

Did the robber die in hours?this in minutes?

Did the robber think that he and the doctor were friends? Did the doctor dislike him?

Was the robber still alive when the police came, or did the doctor call the police because the robber was dead by this time?

Did the doctor and nurse acquire the 3 million, hence the party? Yes !!!! You did it

I like Shez's idea of a medical booby trap. Does it matter where, precisely, in the hospital when the robber died? Yesssss


*********SPOILER***************


This is based on a real incident.

The robber robbed 3 million dollars from the bank. He knew that the police will be coming to catch hold of him somehow. So he planned a rather intelligent(what he thought). He went to a hospital and asked the doctor to put him to sleep using anesthesia for which he(doc) would get half a million dollar but the doctor had some other plan he got the address of the place he hid the money after getting him drunk a lot.Unfortunately for him(robber) he didn't plan for the consequences. Doctor did what he was asked .When the police came to the hospital doctor showed that the robber was on bed from days. The Police went back and then the doctor found all the money and he gave overdose of the drug to the robber, then the robber died. Nurse was involved in the procedure as he couldn't had done it alone. They both celebrated through a party.

Story afterwards
Unfortunately for them too they were caught by the police afterwards when another postmortem report was asked by the Police.


Well played everybody.

Congrats Fiona and Shez for solving the puzzle

Criticism for the puzzle are welcome
Shez (Shez)
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Posted on Sunday, July 10, 2011 - 9:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

why would we want to criticise? great puzzle, thanks!
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Posted on Monday, July 11, 2011 - 7:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Yatin, that was amazing. You deserve the credit, sir, for coming up with a complicated puzzle and also for guiding us toward the conclusion.

I am so new to these boards that I appreciate everything. And among the things that I appreciate is that, it seems, everyone enjoys themselves and there is no unkindness or sulking or anything childish.

Hugs to all, and it's time for me to get some sleep.

Fiona

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