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Redwine (Redwine)
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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 10:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

This one is inspired by one of Balin's recent puzzles.

She woke up and the first thing she saw was underwear.
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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 10:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Did she wake up in her house?
In somebody else's house?
In a hotel?
In a house, period?

Was it her own underwear?
Was it somebody else's underwear?

Was it the very first thing she saw right after opening her eyes?
Was the underwear lying next to her?
On top of her?
Below her?
If it was not in her immediate vicinity, was it arranged in a manner that made her see it at first glance?
Was it a large pile of underwear?
Or just one set? Or two?
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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 11:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Potato:
Did she wake up in her house? No.
In somebody else's house? No.
In a hotel? No.
In a house, period? No.

Was it her own underwear? Possibly, but not necessarily. Assume no.
Was it somebody else's underwear? See above.

Was it the very first thing she saw right after opening her eyes? Yes.
Was the underwear lying next to her? No.
On top of her? No.
Below her? No.
If it was not in her immediate vicinity I would say it was, DOYD., was it arranged in a manner that made her see it at first glance? Literally speaking, no. But...
Was it a large pile of underwear?
Or just one set? Or two? More than a few pieces of underwear, but not the pile.
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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 11:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Was she outdoors?
In a car?
Or other kind of vehicle?
In a tent?
In a shack?

Was the underwear scattered all over the place?
Did the underwear have an eye-catching color?
Was the underwear attached to the ceiling?
Redwine (Redwine)
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Potato:
Was she outdoors? Yes...
In a car?
Or other kind of vehicle?
In a tent? ... but this is also kind of relevant.
In a shack?

Was the underwear scattered all over the place? No.
Did the underwear have an eye-catching color? Some could have. Irrelevant.
Was the underwear attached to the ceiling? No, but...
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Was the underwear attached to the walls?
Did the walls consist of underwear, that is, did somebody build a tent around her that consisted of underwear?
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Potato:
Was the underwear attached to the walls?
Did the walls consist of underwear, that is, did somebody build a tent around her that consisted of underwear? No to both.
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Posted on Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 4:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I have no idea how I managed to inspire this, but this looks interesting...

Is it relevant what she was wearing when she woke up?
Was underwear attached to the roof of the tent?
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Balin:
Is it relevant what she was wearing when she woke up? Not really, but may help discover the circumstances.
Was underwear attached to the roof of the tent? No, but it's closer than previous guesses in that matter.
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Was the underwear somehow suspended above? hanging from something? had the underwear been on a washing line?

Is anyone else involved? had someone played a trick on her?
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was the underwear hanging on a washing line?

was she sleeping in a garden? a yard?
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Posted on Tuesday, December 27, 2011 - 10:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Andy_hornby:
Was the underwear somehow suspended above? Yes. hanging from something? Yes. had the underwear been on a washing line? And yes.

Is anyone else involved? Yes. had someone played a trick on her? Yes.

Shez:
was the underwear hanging on a washing line? Yes.

was she sleeping in a garden? No. a yard? No.
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Did she expect to wake up: in her house? In a bed? In a tent? Outdoors? Below a washing line? did she go to sleep in the same place she woke up? If so: was the underwear there then? Was the washing line? Was something removed while she slept?
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GalFisk:
Did she expect to wake up: in her house? In a bed? Yesish... In a tent? ...and yes. Outdoors? Below a washing line? did she go to sleep in the same place she woke up? No. If so: was the underwear there then? Was the washing line? Was something removed while she slept? Literally speaking, yes.
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had the tent blown away?

had someone removed the tent as a joke? or pulled her out of the tent while she slept?
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Shez:
had the tent blown away? No.

had someone removed the tent as a joke? No. or pulled her out of the tent while she slept? Yes...
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Did someone move: just her? Her in a sleeping bag? On a bed or mattress? Was her sleep natural? alcohol- or drug-induced? Relevant? Relevant how many people were involved in playing the trick on her? Or why they did it? Is it relevant that she woke up under a washing line? Or would any abnormal place have worked?
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Posted on Friday, December 30, 2011 - 9:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

GalFisk:
Did someone move: just her? Her in a sleeping bag? On a bed or mattress? Her in a sleeping bag on a bed. Was her sleep natural? Yes. alcohol- or drug-induced? Relevant? Not really, but this bit may be helpful to discover circumstances. Relevant how many people were involved in playing the trick on her? No - it was about six or seven people. Or why they did it? This is the rest to find out. Is it relevant that she woke up under a washing line? No. Or would any abnormal place have worked? Yes, but...
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was it a bet? A dare? Did she know them? Did they do it to anyone else? Did they do it to prove a point?
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GalFisk:
was it a bet? No. A dare? No. Did she know them? Did they do it to anyone else? No, but ... Did they do it to prove a point? No.
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Did she know them? Yes.
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had she once done it to them? or someone else?
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Shez:
had she once done it to them? or someone else? No to both.
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HINT: Because of the specific relation between them and her, she would never expect them to do this.
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Is she their boss? Are they in a team-building trip?
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Rbruma:
Is she their boss? No... Are they in a team-building trip? No.
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are they her bosses? are they related to her? is she their teacher?
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Shez:
are they her bosses? Kind of, DOYD. are they related to her? If you mean blood or family relaton, then no. is she their teacher? No, but...
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they are her teachers?
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Shez:
they are her teachers? This is the closest guess so far.
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Since she was in a tent, are they in some way responsible for her? Like a camp counselor? Or a girl scout leader?

Was this some sort of retaliatory prank on her? Relevant?

Were the undergarments clean? Relevant?
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Elliot85:
Since she was in a tent, are they in some way responsible for her? Yes. Like a camp counselor? Or a girl scout leader? Both in fact - they were a group of scout leaders, their assistants and camp management.

Was this some sort of retaliatory prank on her? No. Relevant? No.

Were the undergarments clean? Yes. Relevant? Not so much.

In fact, it is only left to discover the circumstances - the situation itself is clear now.
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Was it to illustrate a lesson?
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was it some sort of initiation ceremony?

were they marking her transition from girl scout to leader?

were they trying to make her feel more a part of the group?
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Ciaobella:
Was it to illustrate a lesson? No.

Shez:
was it some sort of initiation ceremony? No, but a kind of tradition is relevant.

were they marking her transition from girl scout to leader? No.

were they trying to make her feel more a part of the group? No, but it's a little OTRT.
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It seems that the puzzle has died... But as there is not much left to find, please welcome the...

**************SPOILER**************
There is a kind-of-tradition on many scout camps, that on the last night of the camp, the camp staff (leaders, assistants and management) play tricks on the participants. It's good when sometimes kids see their leaders to play and have fun this way. The most common trick is to sneak into tents, steal as many shoes as possible and do the big shoe gallery. Then wake the camp up at the morning and see everybody running and looking for shoes. A person can also be tied up to the bed while sleeping and so on. One of the hardest - and therefore the most desired - tricks is to move a sleeping person out of tent with his/her bed and place him/her in a strange place. The hardest ever is to remove the tent without waking up people sleeping inside. But I have never seen this last happening.

Thanks for playing.
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and thank you Redwine
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to move a sleeping person out of tent with his/her bed and place him/her in a strange place.

I don't quite understand this--the tent and the sleeping bag with the person sleeping in it are lifted up and carried somewhere else!? or just the tent is lifted off of the person and moved somewhere, so that the person wakes up in the open? I'd think the first would be impossible, as carrying a sleeping person would surely wake him or her up!

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