| Author | Message | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1652 Registered: 12-2010 |
I don't want them to die, but it'd be interesting to see what they die from. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3980 Registered: 9-2010 |
I = you, doriana kitteh? them = they? them/they = H/A/Ms? H/A/Fs? Mixed? Relevant? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1656 Registered: 12-2010 |
I = you, doriana kitteh? yes them = they? yes them/they = H/A/Ms? yes H/A/Fs? Mixed? Relevant? yes | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 3981 Registered: 9-2010 |
good luck with exams, doriana kitteh! <3 them = real? fictional? is this puzzle a true story? FYOI? FSEI? (to be clearer on the FSEI...maybe someone made a book you're reading/film you're watching, and some H/A/Ms look like they're going to die, only you don't want them to, but you have a morbid fascination in seeing how they die?) | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1657 Registered: 12-2010 |
them = real? this fictional? is this puzzle a true story? FYOI? FSEI? (to be clearer on the FSEI...maybe someone made a book you're reading/film you're watching, and some H/A/Ms look like they're going to die, only you don't want them to, but you have a morbid fascination in seeing how they die?) It's a bit complicated, my dearest Kaylee kitteh. The puzzle statement is a true story, because that's what I was thinking. However, there's a bit of imagination involved, both mine and someone else's. Explore. | ||
| Yatin509 (Yatin509)
New member Username: Yatin509 Post Number: 99 Registered: 6-2011 |
Are they are many illnesses? There are many possibilities through which they could die? They old? | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 174 Registered: 7-2011 |
Doriana, please tell us that the stress of exams has not driven you ... Well, let's leave that there, shall we? Please tell us how many "they" and "them" are. 1-10? 11-20? and so on 300-399? and so on Will they die voluntarily? Will they die because you were in charge of them, and it'd be interesting? Are you, Doriana, at your present age? Remembering a younger age? Do you have the option to stop them from dying? Do you just idly have this feeling that you don't want them to die? Or would you work your butt off to save them? Off the wall question here: Are you, by any chance, taking your story from science fiction writer Rob Sawyer, whose first novel opens the first chapter with "I loved that they trusted me blindly" and ends that chapter with, "It would have been an interesting death to watch." Will the postulated deaths occur from: Heat? Cold? Starvation? Overeating? Too many guns? Not enough guns? Bacteria? Living in a foreign city or country where not enough is known about the rituals? Are they testing trial drugs? Oh, lord. Are they animals?? If there's nothing pharmaceutical involved, this isn't some sort of Michael Bay "Kill everyone until the last man is standing!" movie, is it? You say it's a true story, so there goes my idea about the red shirts in Star Trek out the window. Great puzzle! Fiona, still sleepless after near 40 hours, but determined to keep puzzling... Hasta luego, amiga.. | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1659 Registered: 12-2010 |
Are they are many illnesses? illnesses are relevant There are many possibilities through which they could die? yes They old? They're in their late 40s/early 50s Doriana, please tell us that the stress of exams has not driven you ... Well, let's leave that there, shall we? no... my head is about to explode, but apart from that, I'm still... not more or less sane than usual Please tell us how many "they" and "them" are. 1-10? 4 11-20? and so on 300-399? and so on Will they die voluntarily? maybe Will they die because you were in charge of them, and it'd be interesting? no Are you, Doriana, at your present age? yes Remembering a younger age? Do you have the option to stop them from dying? no Do you just idly have this feeling that you don't want them to die? this Or would you work your butt off to save them? no, and it's not possible for me to save them Off the wall question here: Are you, by any chance, taking your story from science fiction writer Rob Sawyer, whose first novel opens the first chapter with "I loved that they trusted me blindly" and ends that chapter with, "It would have been an interesting death to watch." good idea! But unfortunately that's a no Will the postulated deaths occur from: Heat? Cold? Starvation? Overeating? Too many guns? Not enough guns? Bacteria? Living in a foreign city or country where not enough is known about the rituals? Are they testing trial drugs? no to all Oh, lord. Are they animals?? no, they're humans If there's nothing pharmaceutical involved, this isn't some sort of Michael Bay "Kill everyone until the last man is standing!" movie, is it? it's not You say it's a true story, so there goes my idea about the red shirts in Star Trek out the window. Great puzzle! thanks - great questions! (: Fiona, still sleepless after near 40 hours, but determined to keep puzzling... Huh! You should go to bed! I had a very short night with lots of nightmares about my upcoming exam (the usual stuff - oversleeping, missing the train, not knowing any of the answers) and I wish I could go back to bed Hasta luego, amiga.. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1259 Registered: 2-2011 |
is this a real life situation being shown on TV? are there two likely ways they will die? more than two? is death inevitable? have they already died in real life and you are waiting to see how their story pans out? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1660 Registered: 12-2010 |
is this a real life situation being shown on TV? no are there two likely ways they will die? more than two? more than two is death inevitable? isn't it always? please specify (: have they already died in real life and you are waiting to see how their story pans out? no | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1679 Registered: 12-2010 |
HINT: Find out more about "them". | ||
| Sundowner (Sundowner)
New member Username: Sundowner Post Number: 843 Registered: 6-2003 |
Are these four men famous? Do you expect them to become famous some day? Do you expect them to have a very long life? (so you would need a time machine to outlive them?) Are these four men doing something together? or will do something together? do they know each other? Relevant that there is no woman among them? Is their profession relevant? do they work in: politics? science? art? entertainment? education? private business? Are they astronauts? (or will become?) | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1683 Registered: 12-2010 |
Are these four men famous? yes. Non incredibly famous, but pretty known Do you expect them to become famous some day? so, no Do you expect them to have a very long life? no, I'd say average (so you would need a time machine to outlive them?) Are these four men doing something together? no, but... or will do something together? no, but... do they know each other? yep Relevant that there is no woman among them? there's no woman in their particular group, but if there was one, the puzzle would still work Is their profession relevant? yes do they work in: politics? science? art? entertainment? this education? private business? Are they astronauts? (or will become?) no | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1281 Registered: 2-2011 |
is it inevitable that they will die in the situation they are in? are they in an unusual situation? location? predicament? will their deaths possibly occur from suffocation? poisoning? radiation? loss of blood? starvation? dehydration? are there more than 2 different possible causes of death? disease? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1688 Registered: 12-2010 |
is it inevitable that they will die in the situation they are in? no are they in an unusual situation? location? predicament? no to all will their deaths possibly occur from suffocation? poisoning? radiation? loss of blood? starvation? dehydration? nobody can tell are there more than 2 different possible causes of death? disease? all causes of death are possible, but a disease is relevant | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 1675 Registered: 8-2001 |
Digging deeper into entertainment: Movies? TV? Singing? Comedy performances? Random guess: The Rat Pack? Are all four still alive today? Relevant what era they were most famous in? Nowish? 90s? 80s? 70s? 60s? To clarify: A single disease is relevant to all of them? Would you be watching to see if they die of: Lung cancer? Liver failure? Skin cancer? Would you be expecting certain causes of death based on behaviors they were famous for? Behaviors they are known to have engaged in? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1294 Registered: 2-2011 |
are they all in a band? is what they do inherently dangerous? it's not the Jackass guys is it? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1690 Registered: 12-2010 |
Digging deeper into entertainment: Movies? TV? Singing? this Comedy performances? Random guess: The Rat Pack? no Are all four still alive today? yes Relevant what era they were most famous in? might help you find out who they are Nowish? 90s? 80s? this 70s? 60s? To clarify: A single disease is relevant to all of them? yope Would you be watching to see if they die of: Lung cancer? this Liver failure? Skin cancer? this but explore Would you be expecting certain causes of death based on behaviors they were famous for? no Behaviors they are known to have engaged in? no are they all in a band? YES! is what they do inherently dangerous? no it's not the Jackass guys is it? no, but a good guess | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1296 Registered: 2-2011 |
in their act are they being exposed to hazardous chemicals? smoke? radiation? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1692 Registered: 12-2010 |
in their act are they being exposed to hazardous chemicals? smoke? radiation? no to all - keep in mind that I think they have an average life expectancy | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1349 Registered: 4-2007 |
Is a particular song of the band relevant? Are they still performing? Relevant? Do you have genuine reason to believe they might die of skin or lung cancer? Would it be in any way ironic or fitting if they did? Do any of them already have one of these diseases? Is smoking relevant? Tanning? Sunbeds? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1697 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is a particular song of the band relevant? YES! Are they still performing? no - little HINT: One of them started a solo career and is still performing. Relevant? no Do you have genuine reason to believe they might die of skin or lung cancer? It's not only skin or lung cancer, and I do have a reason to believe it, although not really a 'genuine' one Would it be in any way ironic or fitting if they did? yesish - explore Do any of them already have one of these diseases? Is smoking relevant? Tanning? Sunbeds? no to rest Very good q's! | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2729 Registered: 7-2009 |
Kind of band/music: 80s hair band? Heavy metal? Hard rock? Soft rock? Rap? Country? Punk? 80s alternative? Techno? Are they especially known for playing ballads? stadium music (e.g. "We will rock you" or "another one bites the dust")? love songs? dance music? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1700 Registered: 12-2010 |
Kind of band/music: 80s hair band? Heavy metal? Hard rock? Soft rock? Rap? Country? Punk? 80s alternative? this Techno? Are they especially known for playing ballads? stadium music (e.g. "We will rock you" or "another one bites the dust")? love songs? dance music? none of these, actually - I don't think letting you guess the band would make much sense, so I'll give them away as a HINT: The Smiths | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2730 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is google allowed on this one? I know who the Smiths are, and I recognize a lot of their songs when I hear them, but for some reason I always come up blank when trying to remember what songs they sing And thank you for giving us the band name. It could have taken FOREVER to guess who it was | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1702 Registered: 12-2010 |
Google is allowed, but it won't help you much now - find out what exactly is relevant about the relevant song | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2731 Registered: 7-2009 |
Do the song's lyrics talks about ways to die? About cancer? About their own predictions for their deaths? About the things they'd hate to die of? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1703 Registered: 12-2010 |
Do the song's lyrics talks about ways to die? yes About cancer? no, but... About their own predictions for their deaths? no, but... About the things they'd hate to die of? no very good q's, explore! | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 1457 Registered: 9-2010 |
Did they smoke? Relevant? Is smoking relevant even if they didn't smoke? If so, [LTPF List of things you can smoke]? Did the song's lyrics talk of smoking? Dying from smoking? Or was it pro-smoking? As in "smoke and be cool"? The "Too Cool to Smoke" pencils relevant? As in, the ones that when sharpened, read "Cool to Smoke" and eventually just "Smoke"? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1706 Registered: 12-2010 |
Did they smoke? I dunno Relevant? no Is smoking relevant even if they didn't smoke? no If so, [LTPF List of things you can smoke]? Did the song's lyrics talk of smoking? no Dying from smoking? no Or was it pro-smoking? no As in "smoke and be cool"? no The "Too Cool to Smoke" pencils relevant? no As in, the ones that when sharpened, read "Cool to Smoke" and eventually just "Smoke"? no | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1316 Registered: 2-2011 |
was the relevant song released as a single? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1708 Registered: 12-2010 |
was the relevant song released as a single? yes, but after they had split up | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1320 Registered: 2-2011 |
now that would be a real clue to someone who knew anything about the Smiths! | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1709 Registered: 12-2010 |
I could give the song title away but I won't. There's still an important piece missing, and once you have found it, you won't need the exact song any more. Consider this a HINT. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2732 Registered: 7-2009 |
Were they singing about ways some specific other person/people had died in the past? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1713 Registered: 12-2010 |
Were they singing about ways some specific other person/people had died in the past? no, but... And there might be an FA | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1731 Registered: 12-2010 |
Here's a RECAP: "They" are the Smiths, a British rock band from the 1980s. They probably have an average life expectancy and so far, I can't see a cause of dead that they are highly likely to die from. However, it would be yesishly ironic or fitting if they died from cancer. There is a relevant song that talks about ways to die, but not about cancer. Find out in what way this song is relevant. | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2739 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is the relevant part of the song something that talks about non-cancer ways to die? Or something else? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1735 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is the relevant part of the song something that talks about non-cancer ways to die? yes with a slight ish Or something else? no | ||
| Enjay (Enjay)
New member Username: Enjay Post Number: 1354 Registered: 4-2007 |
Does it mention death? Disease? Of the singer? Of someone else? Would it be ironic/fitting because they had in some way predicted it? Predicted that they wouldn't die of cancer? Is it only the lyrics of the song that are relevant? Are any things that cause cancer relevant? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1738 Registered: 12-2010 |
Does it mention death? yes Disease? no Of the singer? possibly Of someone else? yes Would it be ironic/fitting because they had in some way predicted it? yope Predicted that they wouldn't die of cancer? noish Is it only the lyrics of the song that are relevant? yope Are any things that cause cancer relevant? no | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1744 Registered: 12-2010 |
HINT: I answered yope to "Is it only the lyrics of the song that are relevant". The lyrics are relevant, but nothing else about the song is. However, the lyrics themselves are not about cancer. So, try to find out how they are relevant and why I couldn't answer with yes. If need be, I can quote the relevant lyrics, but I don't think that's actually helpful. | ||
| Lynne (Lynne)
New member Username: Lynne Post Number: 5035 Registered: 12-2000 |
Do they sing of being untouchable, invincible etc? Despite also singing of a life-threatening style of living? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1748 Registered: 12-2010 |
Do they sing of being untouchable, invincible etc? no Despite also singing of a life-threatening style of living? They don't sing of a life-threatening style of living | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1749 Registered: 12-2010 |
Do they sing of being untouchable, invincible etc? no Despite also singing of a life-threatening style of living? They don't sing of a life-threatening style of living | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14053 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are cancer symptoms relevant? Is chemotherapy? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1750 Registered: 12-2010 |
Are cancer symptoms relevant? Is chemotherapy? no to both | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1751 Registered: 12-2010 |
Okay, here are the relevant lines (so you can say that they have nothing to do with cancer at all (;...) And if a double decker bus crashes into us - to die by your side is such a heavenly way to die So - where did I get that cancer idea from? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4135 Registered: 9-2010 |
sry doriana kitteh, I iz nawt knoez...bus driver iz nawt haz enuf Kaseburgur? is there some metaphor or euphemism in German concerning cancer that has a bus crash in it? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1752 Registered: 12-2010 |
sry doriana kitteh, I iz nawt knoez...bus driver iz nawt haz enuf Kaseburgur? problee! is there some metaphor or euphemism in German concerning cancer that has a bus crash in it? very good idea, but it's a no | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2747 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is it relevant who the "your" refers to in the lyrics? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1753 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is it relevant who the "your" refers to in the lyrics? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14093 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the "to die by your side" bit relevant? The "heavenly way to die"? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1754 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is the "to die by your side" bit relevant? The "heavenly way to die"? both are relevant | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14107 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is a German translation of the lyrics relevant? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1756 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is a German translation of the lyrics relevant? no, but this is VERY OTRT!! great q! | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1518 Registered: 2-2011 |
do any of the words you quote have a double meaning in German? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1795 Registered: 12-2010 |
do any of the words you quote have a double meaning in German? no - you're getting off the right track again | ||
| Redwine (Redwine)
New member Username: Redwine Post Number: 968 Registered: 1-2011 |
Is zodiac relevant? Is it important, that the lyrics talk about quick death, while dying from cancer is long and painful? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1528 Registered: 2-2011 |
do the English words sound like something else in German? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1816 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is zodiac relevant? do you mean as in zodiac signs? no Is it important, that the lyrics talk about quick death, while dying from cancer is long and painful? no do the English words sound like something else in German? no | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4119 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is any translation of the lyrics relevant? A mondegreen? any languages besides English and German relevant? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1845 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is any translation of the lyrics relevant? yes A mondegreen? no any languages besides English and German relevant? yes, explore | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1846 Registered: 12-2010 |
Is any translation of the lyrics relevant? yes A mondegreen? no any languages besides English and German relevant? yes, explore | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4124 Registered: 9-2009 |
French? Another European language? Is a mistranslation relevant? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1847 Registered: 12-2010 |
French? yes Another European language? several Is a mistranslation relevant? yes, and I think we have enough for a ********SPOILER******** I was playing around with Bad Translator, a tool that translates a piece of text back and forth. I entered a quote from my favourite Smiths song, "There is a light that never goes out": And if a double decker bus crashes into us - to die by your side is such a heavenly way to die What I got after 56 translations was Two of them will die of cancer. And now I'm curious if two of the band members actually die of cancer one day, but I don't want them to die yet. Thanks for playing and for your patience, and congrats to Galfisk for his second solve in a row (: | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14327 Registered: 4-2010 |
Awesome puzzle! I tried that (with random languages), and got "The lake fell to death after the death of coach." Yours is funnier. |
