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Proceed.
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vous = you? H/A/F?

pardon. nous procedons en anglais?

is someone actually singing?

is it relevant where this takes place?
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vous = you? H/A/F? eh, don't take the title that literally. It's only important in its source.

pardon. nous procedons en anglais? I don't speak French really =D but Googlepedia is, as always, allowed.

is someone actually singing? perhaps *grin*

is it relevant where this takes place? for svv of 'where'.
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OK - Christmas and July not relevant?

is it to do with wishing your life away?

has this to do with the opera? the film? another occasion? real life? FYOI? FSEI?
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OK - Christmas and July not relevant? in fact they're very relevant...sorry for the misconception, the idea was to lead you to "Christmas in July". I worded that badly. =( bad kaylee kitteh...

is it to do with wishing your life away? no

has this to do with the opera? the film? another occasion? thisish real life? FYOI? this. FSEI?

This is, in the vein of woubit's Christmas puzzles, Kaylee's Christmas-in-July puzzle, hence the title.

Now, with that sorted...Allons-y!
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Are there any relevant people? H/A/M?F? [LTPF list of integers] for how many of them there are, please.
Any relevant animals? kittehz?

And an [LTPF list of everything] please. No, just kidding, but I have no idea where this might be going.
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Are there any relevant people? H/A/M?F? I anticipate there shall be both [LTPF list of integers] for how many of them there are, please. we shall see...
Any relevant animals? kittehz? yes and very much yes to both

And an [LTPF list of everything] please. No, just kidding, but I have no idea where this might be going. As I said, it is in the vein of woubit's Christmas puzzles...one in particular, with which I believe it may share a puzzle statement.

It's a lateral adventure of sorts, though not quite my usual. A mini-LatVenture, I suppose =)
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Hmm, so it's some kind of lateral adventure... Am I in a dark room? If so, is there a door? Can I see/hear/smell/taste/touch anything? Is there a kitteh? Am I a kitteh?
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Hmm, so it's some kind of lateral adventure... Am I in a dark room? (I'll treat that as a request to look around =D) You are in what appears to be a cavern, lit by natural light through overhead shafts. If so, is there a door? No Can I see/hear/smell/taste/touch anything? Beside you is a straw basket and a large sack which appears to have been made out of a picnic blanket. It is bulging with gifts. This is a Christmas puzzle after all, July or not. Is there a kitteh? There may be meowing from inside the sack, along with a few other noises. Am I a kitteh? Of course, you iz Doriana kitteh.
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Part 2 of your "let's go through all the states" puzzle?
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Part 2 of your "let's go through all the states" puzzle?
Yope...but it's relevant. Now, come on, Balin, this is a LatVenture after all...*pokes*
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Are there [LTPF list of integers] number of gifts in the bag? Am I allowed to open any (don't do so yet)? Is there any apparent way out of the cavern? If not, can I climb through one of the overhead shafts? Can I get a total inventory of the sack along with a description of each gift or other item?
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Are there [LTPF list of integers] number of gifts in the bag? There are a lot. Am I allowed to open any (don't do so yet)? Most certainly, but not until you figure out which one is yours. Is there any apparent way out of the cavern? Not at the moment. If not, can I climb through one of the overhead shafts? Not yet.Can I get a total inventory of the sack along with a description of each gift or other item? You may not have an inventory of the sack, as that would defeat the purpose of this puzzle. If you would like to take a few gifts out and look at them, you may do so. I suppose we could call your gift a Chanukah-in-July one...or perhaps eight *grins* we'll see...
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Can I see or touch anything in the straw basket? Can I walk around? Is there a gift with my name on it?
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Can I see or touch anything in the straw basket? There's nothing in the basket that's particularly important - a bag of trail mix, bag of Clementines, and a small cask of water. You won't starve in here, anyway. Can I walk around? Sure, you can. Is there a gift with my name on it? There's plenty of gifts, but they seem to have lost their name tags. Observant LTPFers may remember (or search for) a similar situation in the past...
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How about "remember searching for"?

"If anyone calls," right?

Pull out and describe one of the gifts.
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How about "remember searching for"? that'll do it, too...

"If anyone calls," right? I do believe so...although the method to my madness may not be exactly the same as woubit's.

Pull out and describe one of the gifts. You reach into the sack and pull out a rather lumpy gift, wrapped in a cloth dyed colonial blue with diamonds of a brownish colour on it. The cloth is rather loosely wrapped around it - you can tell it's not a box, but that's about it. Whatever it is, it's soft and squishy.
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I cannot yet open the gift, can I?
Would it be useful to pull out a second present? If so, I'll do that.
And I reach into the sack and try to find anything that might help me get out of the cavern.
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I cannot yet open the gift, can I? Not until you determine who it is for =)
Would it be useful to pull out a second present? It may well be. If so, I'll do that. You do so. This second present seems to be round-ish and rather heavy. It is wrapped in newspaper, or printed pages at any rate, for upon closer inspection the title seems to be something like (with letters blurred) "Po...ich...anac".
And I reach into the sack and try to find anything that might help me get out of the cavern. There may indeed be something useful - once all the gifts are unwrapped. For now, they are simply gifts.
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Are there, maybe, 50 presents? One for each state?

I look at the first present to find any hints about whom it might be for. Same thing with the second.

Can I find the kitteh inside the sack?
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Are there, maybe, 50 presents? Not necessarily. One for each state? Yope

I look at the first present to find any hints about whom it might be for. Same thing with the second. Simply staring at the gifts does you no good. But as you feel the first gift, you get the impression that it is a pillow or beanbag of some kind, made to resemble some living creature.

The second one is round with flat ends, and made of some hard substance. Shaking it elicits a splashing noise. It sounds like it is partially filled with liquid, and something else may be floating inside it.


Can I find the kitteh inside the sack? You do hear meowing from inside the sack, and when you investigate further, you find three little kittehs in a basket, wearing collars naming them "Tabby Kitteh", "George Washington", and "Maine Coon Kitteh." Apparently the calico got the better end of the naming deal. Or maybe not. Their collars are studded with yellow topaz.
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The second one...if you look closer, can you tell whether is it wrapped in pages of "Poor Richard's Almanac"?
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The second one...if you look closer, can you tell whether is it wrapped in pages of "Poor Richard's Almanac"? why, yes, it does seem to be, at that...Most interesting =)
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Can you read any of the rest of the writings? If so, are there any famous quotes or sayings on it? Any advice that it seems to be giving the reader?
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Can you read any of the rest of the writings? If so, are there any famous quotes or sayings on it? Any advice that it seems to be giving the reader?
The surname 'Saunders' stands out here and there, as well as a few references to phases of the moon and other astronomical notations. Nothing seems particularly significant at the moment. (That's not to say it won't be, of course.)
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The first one -- is it a stuffed animal? A teddy bear? Is it fuzzy?
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The first one -- is it a stuffed animal? A teddy bear? Is it fuzzy?
It feels like a stuffed animal. But 'fuzzy' isn't quite the right word...the texture's a bit off for that.
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Does gift two feel like a snowglobe?

As far as determining who the gifts are forAre we trying to do that?
Are they for individual people?
LTPFers?
Historical figures?
People currently alive?

Are states relevant?
Perhaps not the current states, but the original colonies?
States that meet some other criteria?

Is gift 1 moving?
Can we feel a general shape?
A head?
Legs?
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Does gift two feel like a snowglobe? It does, but only if it's a huge snowglobe. And there may be something alive in there...

As far as determining who the gifts are forAre we trying to do that? Yes.
Are they for individual people? Yes, though some people may possibly have more than one gift.
LTPFers? yes
Historical figures? so no
People currently alive? I should hope so

Are states relevant? they seem to be
Perhaps not the current states, but the original colonies? perhaps they are relevant, too
States that meet some other criteria? eventually, no doubt

Is gift 1 moving? it is not
Can we feel a general shape? yes
A head? yes, a rather small head
Legs? and rather stick-like, though still soft, legs. Two of them.
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Does Gift 2 seem to be a fishtask or aquarium?
Could it be for Galfisk?

Does Gift 1 have a long slender connection between head and body?
Perhaps a bird-like shape?
Any ears on the head?
A snout or beak?
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Does Gift 2 seem to be a fishtask or aquarium? oh, so very close...
Could it be for Galfisk? it could be, but it isn't, as it happens

Does Gift 1 have a long slender connection between head and body? not long, nor particularly slender. It seems to move smoothly between head and shoulders
Perhaps a bird-like shape? yes
Any ears on the head? visible? no, but it may have visible earlobes. Or they would be, if they were not wrapped up
A snout or beak? it has a beak, albeit a squishy one
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Does Gift 2 feel like a glass jar?

So can we safely assume Gift 1 is bird stuffed animal?
Do we need more detail?

Also, can I get a little hint about where we go from here?
Do I need to match people with gifts?
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Does Gift 2 feel like a glass jar? Not 'jar' exactly...you were slightly closer with the other guesses. But it is certainly glass.

So can we safely assume Gift 1 is bird stuffed animal? Yes.
Do we need more detail? Yes.

Also, can I get a little hint about where we go from here? Surely, vesica kitteh.
Do I need to match people with gifts? That would be a good idea. =) And there's more gifts in the sack no doubt...

Higgledy piggeldy
My Vesica kitteh,
A fine puzzler is
but does need a HINT:

To the above I'll add
Informatively speaking:
Cheezburgur kittehz
Will help you a bit. =)
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Is Gift 2 about the size of a fishtank or aquarium? Or smaller? Like a snowglobe?

Pull out another gift and feel it. What does it feel like?

Higgledy piggledy
Kayleetonkslupin is
Bringing us presents like
Jolly St. Nick:
Feeling the gifts just like
Woubit's great puzzle brought
Anniversarily
Should do the trick.
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Is Gift 2 about the size of a fishtank You've got almost the right word here... or aquarium? Or smaller? It depends... Like a snowglobe? But bigger than most snowglobes.

Pull out another gift and feel it. What does it feel like? You do so. It feels like a round cylinder, hollow in the middle, and with thin ridges all down the sides. It's about the height of a soup can, but not that - it's not solid on the ends.

Higgledy piggledy
Kayleetonkslupin is
Bringing us presents like
Jolly St. Nick:
Feeling the gifts just like
Woubit's great puzzle brought
Anniversarily
Should do the trick.
Excellent line of thought, Balin kitteh!!
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A fish bowl?
(She asks, thinking that can't be right or the paper would be all wet, since fish bowls generally do not have lids!)
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A fish bowl? It is!
(She asks, thinking that can't be right or the paper would be all wet, since fish bowls generally do not have lids! Well, the paper is quite wet, which is why so much of the writing couldn't be read properly! But it's also wrapped in several layers of paper, so it's not wholly destroyed. =))
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Is Gift #3 hard? Soft? Is it a roll of toilet paper?
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Is Gift #3 hard? This Soft? and yet, it seems to be flexible, so for svv of 'soft'... Is it a roll of toilet paper? it is not; it is wider than a toilet paper tube, but narrower than a normal roll of toilet paper unused.
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Do you think that this gift might be made of rubber?
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Do you think that this gift might be made of rubber?
It might in somewhat odd circumstances, but it is not, in this case, rubber.
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Kaylee Kitteh, do any of the parts of your puzzle make noises or sounds?

Does sunlight or indoors lighting affect the situation?

Is there something like the large tank of water for swimming creatures that we sometimes see at seafood or sushi restaurants?

Is this something that any person might see?

Or does a person have to be in a particular place or in a particular situation in order to observe what you're describing?

[Awfully sorry if I've repeated from anyone. I did read the earlier contributions, but I'm sleepy.]

Love you, Kitteh; love you all.
Fiona
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Kaylee Kitteh, do any of the parts of your puzzle make noises or sounds? Well, the three kittehs are meowing. I'm sure they would appreciate cheezburgur, if only they could find it.

Does sunlight or indoors lighting affect the situation? Not really, other than that if there was no light, you wouldn't be able to see, so assume there's some unimportant light source

Is there something like the large tank of water for swimming creatures that we sometimes see at seafood or sushi restaurants? there might be, at that, but if there is, you have not found it yet. The closest thing you've found is what seems to be a fishbowl with an unidentified fish in it.

Is this something that any person might see? Well, this is a lateral adventure, so I do not expect anyone to be realistic here, lol. But certain people might be more inclined to recognize the gifts than others.

Or does a person have to be in a particular place or in a particular situation in order to observe what you're describing? I hope that answers this question, too? =)

[Awfully sorry if I've repeated from anyone. I did read the earlier contributions, but I'm sleepy.iz no problem. kaylee kitteh iz sleepy, too.]

Love you, Kitteh; love you all. thanx foar stoppin bai my puzzel! plz come bak soon. <3
Fiona

Kaylee kitteh
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I'm interested in the various substances that have been mentioned here:

straw basket

large sack which appears to have been made out of a picnic blanket

cloth dyed colonial blue with diamonds of a brownish colour

Whatever it is, it's soft and squishy.

first gift...you get the impression that it is a pillow or beanbag of some kind, made to resemble some living creature.

The second one is round with flat ends, and made of some hard substance. Shaking it elicits a splashing noise. It sounds like it is partially filled with liquid, and something else may be floating inside it.

Can I find the kitteh inside the sack? You do hear meowing from inside the sack.

Lots more clues but it is definitely GLASS, right?
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The gifts are for LTPF members, right? Do the gifts have something to do with the members they're for? Maybe there's a gourami in the fish bowl? And the gift is for our member Gourami?
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I'm interested in the various substances that have been mentioned here:

straw basket indeed...others may have seen it before, though you are less likely to have. you are, of course, free to find where it may have been located.

large sack which appears to have been made out of a picnic blanket indeed

cloth dyed colonial blue with diamonds of a brownish colour yes =)

Whatever it is, it's soft and squishy. it is

first gift...you get the impression that it is a pillow or beanbag of some kind, made to resemble some living creature. which has been found to be some sort of bird, I think. if that was not found...well, it is =)

The second one is round with flat ends, and made of some hard substance. Shaking it elicits a splashing noise. It sounds like it is partially filled with liquid, and something else may be floating inside it. indeed...something else which is no doubt somewhat distressed at being shaken

Can I find the kitteh inside the sack? You do hear meowing from inside the sack. I think the three kittehz have already been found. Calico, Maine Coon and Tabby kittehz.

Lots more clues but it is definitely GLASS, right? the round-flat object with water-and-something inside? yes, it's a fishbowl

The gifts are for LTPF members, right? yes Do the gifts have something to do with the members they're for? yes Maybe there's a gourami in the fish bowl? but not that And the gift is for our member Gourami? it isn't, at that, however...there's a different angle to this. remember in this case, there's certain people involved and they may have more than one present.
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Is there any way to determine what type of fish is in the fishbowl?
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Is there any way to determine what type of fish is in the fishbowl?
It may be helpful to discern where the basket, the kittehs, and the Sack O'Holding have come from, and then the fish should be relatively easy =) Keep in mind what the bowl is wrapped in, too...
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Wrapped in printed paper reading "Po...ich...anac"...is that a part of a title? Of a lateral puzzle? Adventure?
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Wrapped in printed paper reading "Po...ich...anac"...is that a part of a title? yes Of a lateral puzzle? Adventure?
As Noel determined, it is "Poor Richard's Almanac"
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Ben Franklin relevant at all? $100 bills?
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Ben Franklin relevant at all? Yesish $100 bills? No
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Breaking from that gift for a moment and going to...

The cats: Is it relevant that we have one called George Washington? And now there's something from Ben Franklin?
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Breaking from that gift for a moment and going to...

The cats: Is it relevant that we have one called George Washington? yes And now there's something from Ben Franklin? yes, but I hope I'm not misleading you as to the relevance...
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Will the George-cat eat the fish? Is it a catfish in the fishbowl?
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Will the George-cat eat the fish? Is it a catfish in the fishbowl?
he might want to do that, but it iz nawt hiz present, balin kitteh. iz nawt a kittehfish. but there may be kittehfish in bag somewheres...
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Is the straw basket an Easter basket? Does it feel like it might contain eggs? marshmello peeps? candy? Can we see the basket at this point, or is it wrapped in something? If we can see it, what color is it?

The bird-shaped one...does it feel like it has a long neck? Or is the head close to the body? Does it feel like it has long legs?

On the fish bowl/poor richard's almanac/ben franklin one, you mentioned something about the name "Saunders." Is that name relevant? If so, does it belong to a famous person? To someone at LTPF?

I'm feeling horribly stumped on the existing gifts. Would it be too much to ask to pull another one out of the bag and feel it?
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Also, are the three cats for the same person? Or for three different people?
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Is the straw basket an Easter basket? no, it's a particular basket you may or may not have seen on here before Does it feel like it might contain eggs? marshmello peeps? candy? it probably contains candy somewhere Can we see the basket at this point, yes or is it wrapped in something? If we can see it, what color is it? ...straw-colored?

The bird-shaped one...does it feel like it has a long neck? Or is the head close to the body? this Does it feel like it has long legs? not really long

On the fish bowl/poor richard's almanac/ben franklin one, you mentioned something about the name "Saunders." Is that name relevant? yes If so, does it belong to a famous person? Yes, but... To someone at LTPF? No, although two someones at LTPF are related to a few someones named Saunders

I'm feeling horribly stumped on the existing gifts. Would it be too much to ask to pull another one out of the bag and feel it? it would not be too much to ask, of course. You pull out another gift. It is wrapped in cotton - what seems to be an old t-shirt - that says "Welcome to Intercourse" in faded letters. There is something soft and squishy inside that seems to be filled with stuffing and 'beans'. It has four legs, a tail and of course, a head attached to a longish body.
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Also, are the three cats for the same person? No Or for three different people? But no. *grin*
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Since I'm a newbie, I'm not real clear about LTPF. I googled it, but don't know enough to ask smart questions. Am I a new LTPFer, or do I need to learn how to become one?

(Frex, Shez asked, "is it relevant where this takes place?" and you replied "for svv of 'where'." I don't know what svv stands for.)

Were the gifts placed in the gift sack at random? in a precise order? Relevant?

To follow up Doriana: so far we have used sight and hearing and touch. Do smell and taste (ewww) give us clues, too?

Do we need to investigate other parts of this space? Or do you advise us to focus mostly or only on the gifts?

Should I ask about the person(s) who deposited these items here? about the mother cat(s)?

What is the best way that we can discover which gift belongs to which person?

Is Gift 3 a telescope? a kaleidoscope? something similar?

If I decided to take one of the kittehs and announce, "This is now my kitteh," would there be some force or commandment or law that would prevent me, if it is not my gift kitteh?

Is each gift a totally different type from the others, excepting a possible animal theme?

Are they mass-produced? Home-made? Will someone go batshit insane bcz no batteries included? Relevant?

Do the gifts have symbolic meaning?
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If I walk around inside this space, will I see something that will give meaning to the gifts?

You took the time to identify each breed of cat. Should we investigate further?
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Are the cats gifts at all? Are they hints? Can they help us identify the presents?
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Since I'm a newbie, I'm not real clear about LTPF. I googled it, but don't know enough to ask smart questions. Am I a new LTPFer, or do I need to learn how to become one? you are a new LTPFer, and that is all you need to know about that. I'm relatively new, just less new than you are...I've been around since October or so, and lots of people have been around for years and years =)

(Frex, Shez asked, "is it relevant where this takes place?" and you replied "for svv of 'where'." I don't know what svv stands for. according to the almighty woubit, founder of woubits inc., pedants to the gentry, "svv" stands for "sufficiently vague values" so I imagine it means something like DOYD "depends on your definition" of where.)

Were the gifts placed in the gift sack at random? in a precise order? Relevant? they're in a certain order, somewhat, and it's relevant

To follow up Doriana: so far we have used sight and hearing and touch. Do smell and taste (ewww) give us clues, too? they may well do

Do we need to investigate other parts of this space? at the moment, it is merely a black cavern with seemingly no way out save for the air shaft miles above you, or the chasm to one side of the cave you are in Or do you advise us to focus mostly or only on the gifts? Focus on the gifts for now, getting out does not matter yet

Should I ask about the person(s) who deposited these items here? that would be either me or else the all-knowing deity of the puzzle...which is me again about the mother cat(s)? they don't matter

What is the best way that we can discover which gift belongs to which person? unfortunately, none of the important ones is yours, though you will of course receive a present for playing =) But you might seek the aid of more experienced LTPFers than yourself

Is Gift 3 a telescope? a kaleidoscope? something similar? it is only similar to a telescope in that it is cylindrical and expands. But it is not solid inside or at the ends, and contains no glass or mirror. It is quite hollow.

If I decided to take one of the kittehs and announce, "This is now my kitteh," would there be some force or commandment or law that would prevent me, if it is not my gift kitteh? well, while the kitteh would not be yours, I am sure it would be glad to be your friend =) they all seem to like you very much

Is each gift a totally different type from the others, excepting a possible animal theme? there are a few gifts that have things in common with the others, but fairly few would end up being identical inside

Are they mass-produced? Home-made? they have been provided for your entertainment by the one and only kaylee kitteh Will someone go batshit insane bcz no batteries included? there are no batteries required Relevant? maybe, fiona kitteh *luffs you* =)



Do the gifts have symbolic meaning? Yes =)

If I walk around inside this space, will I see something that will give meaning to the gifts?

You took the time to identify each breed of cat. Should we investigate further? you should


Are the cats gifts at all? yes Are they hints? yes Can they help us identify the presents? and yes
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oh and btw, Fiona kitteh, LTPF = here, the Lateral Thinking Puzzle Forum, where kittehz playz all day and haz cheezburgur, if they can findz it =D can you findz it?
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Thank you K-kitteh! I found it and have learned much. With luck, I might retain in memory what I have read there.

With my next questions, I challenge the K-goddess:

How many gifts are in the gift sack?

Do I need to know how to identify / play with / investigate / manipulate or, in some other way, deal with each one?

If I can identify them, am I responsible for finding the recipients for each gift?

Do I need to assemble anything?

Can I assume that all the great glowing wonderful LTPFers will also come to this place?

Do I have any important objects in my pockets which will be relevant? (Well, it did happen to a hobbit, once.)

Will I find something in this dark cavern that

1) will help me with identifying the gifts?

2) will help me to find the way out of this dark cavern?

3) Is a cell phone relevant?

4) Are food and water relevant? (for me and the kittens. Always practical, our Fiona)

5) Am I aiming for a larger goal than feeling around in the gift sack?

5a) Do I need to report what happens here to a friend? to my family? to the world?

5b) Will what I do here matter only to me?

5c) and matter to our other friends here?

6) And now I want to feel around in the sack and find another gift!

Fiona kitteh luffs Kaylee kitteh too. This is a fascinating puzzle!
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Thank you K-kitteh! I found it and have learned much. With luck, I might retain in memory what I have read there.

With my next questions, I challenge the K-goddess:

How many gifts are in the gift sack? lotz

Do I need to know how to identify / play with / investigate / manipulate or, in some other way, deal with each one? hopefully iz can haz halp from moar experienced kittehz, but you ask questionz, I iz ansur =D

If I can identify them, am I responsible for finding the recipients for each gift? only as much as any other kitteh askin questionz

Do I need to assemble anything? do not think so

Can I assume that all the great glowing wonderful LTPFers will also come to this place? it would be nice if they did, but alas, Kaylee kitteh'z puzzel is sometimes getz ignored bai many kittehz

Do I have any important objects in my pockets which will be relevant? (Well, it did happen to a hobbit, once.) ahahahaha...ooh, very good, fiona kitteh liekz hobbitz, too...we are not hobbitz tho, we iz kittehz, no pockets =)

Will I find something in this dark cavern that

1) will help me with identifying the gifts? no

2) will help me to find the way out of this dark cavern? you have that, if you can find where the cavern comes from...but then you'd be a lot closer to identifying EVERYTHING (am rather disappointed in balin kitteh myself, thot he would haz it already...were did he goez?

3) Is a cell phone relevant? only if you define relevant as "you do not have one" =)

4) Are food and water relevant? (for me and the kittens. Always practical, our Fiona) there is in fact food and water in the basket...a cask of water and a sack of Clementines, as well as a bag of trailmix, now you think about it. So you won't starve.

5) Am I aiming for a larger goal than feeling around in the gift sack? 1. Find out what the gifts are/who they are for (The person who they are for does not necessarily have to open them. You just need to know who they are for, for the opening to commence.) 2. Find out where you are. This ties in with 1. 3. Find a way to get out and continue your journey, after 1 and 2 have been completed. The answer to that is "How did you get here?"

5a) Do I need to report what happens here to a friend? to my family? to the world? iz reported to ltpf kittehz, that iz enuf

5b) Will what I do here matter only to me? and to the rest of us in puzzel

5c) and matter to our other friends here? yes, here

6) And now I want to feel around in the sack and find another gift! and so you do. This gift is rectangular. It is about 2 1/2 - 3 inches thick, about a foot long, and half as wide across (6 inches.) It is wrapped only in a dark brown leather cover, with a zipper that goes around three sides, and a leather strap on the other, presumably for carrying it. There is a lock on the zipper.

Fiona kitteh luffs Kaylee kitteh too. This is a fascinating puzzle! o thanx yuo doriana kitteh!
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This leather gift: Does the leather thing contain the gift? Or is the leather thing the gift itself?

Have we identified what type of fish is in the fishbowl? Is it a goldfish?
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Another thought: You said the kittehs can help us figure out the gifts, right? Would asking them questions in lolspeak (kittehspeek?) help?
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This leather gift: Does the leather thing contain the gift? yes Or is the leather thing the gift itself? it's part of it, too

Have we identified what type of fish is in the fishbowl? surprisingly, we have not Is it a goldfish? I think it may be bigger than most goldfish
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Another thought: You said the kittehs can help us figure out the gifts, right? Would asking them questions in lolspeak (kittehspeek?) help?
o yez, problee so!
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Kittehs, kan yu tell wut kind uv fishee iz in teh fisheebol?
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Kittehs, kan yu tell wut kind uv fishee iz in teh fisheebol?
george washington calico kitteh sayz it smellz familiur...he mite haz eated it a few tiemz. he thinkz might bee sum sort of rivur-fish or somethin...
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@fiona kitteh: i iz sry, meant to type o thanx yuo fiona kitteh...iz nawt knoez how iz turned tu doriana kitteh...i iz nawt had cheezburgur i guessez...=( luffs awl mai kittehz tho! plz iz nawt mad at kaylee kitteh foar aksidental mistypin...
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Kaylee, I am humiliated. When I googled LTPF, what came up was "Let Them Play Foundation" - and I have the chutzpah to call myself a librarian! Or, "called myself," since I did quit that job recently. Now I do need to find the real, honest, perfectly magical LTPF that you told me about.

Others, please forgive this OT wailings and gnashings of teeth.
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Kalyee wrote: "@fiona kitteh: i iz sry, meant to type o thanx yuo fiona kitteh...iz nawt knoez how iz turned tu doriana kitteh"

Actually, I was proud and delighted, bcz I'm sure that further contact with Doriana will prove her to be precisely as cool as we are. Please, think nothing of it. Truly, I felt flattered.
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yuo iz findz it, fiona kitteh...lateralpuzzles.com = LTPF =) iz us! yuo iz all good =) *hugz fiona kitteh* i sleepz nao...iz wakez up moar refreshed kitteh maybez...
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iz short for Lateral Thinking Puzzles Forum! ok, NOW i sleepz...*yawn* *fallz asleep awn fiona kitteh...noez, just kidding. mabee in basket...iz a big basket, can hold me if it needz tu. =)
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Fiona wrote: 3) Is a cell phone relevant? only if you define relevant as "you do not have one" =)

Fiona dies. hee hee!

4) Are food and water relevant? (for me and the kittens. Always practical, our Fiona) there is in fact food and water in the basket ... a cask of water and a sack of Clementines

Do I need to know what Clementines are?


Okay, Gift 4:

I've read enough fantasy in my life that, when I hear something is wrapped in leather, I automatically think: blade. Knife, dagger, sword. But the dimensions sound wrong, unless the hilt is 6 inches in diameter. Oh! Which, of course, has been done; think of those royal swords with looping and coiling hilts and finger-guards.

And THEN I think: a sheath that's zippered??
Am I in the right area? Should I think about other possible leather-wrapped items instead?

(Because in other cases when I think about leather, I might be thinking about Lucy Lawless or Nathan Fillion or Ben Browder, and I'd accept any of them as gifts.)

Is the creature in a bowl of freshwater or salt-water? I mean, if we need to identify the precise species. So far, I'm leaning toward trout: but what knucklehead would put a trout into a small bowl?

Okay. Kaylee wrote:

if you can find where the cavern comes from ... but then you'd be a lot closer to identifying EVERYTHING

Very well.

Is it what we consider to be a real place on Earth, such as the grottoes of Greece, Italy and France?

Is it a real cave or cavern? Or should I be thinking about fictional places? Because I can blow anyone here out of the water when it comes to listing caves in fiction.

Does it merely appear to be a cavern? Is it within a larger space or a larger building? Or in, loike, a frikkin spaceship or Moon colony? (If so, I'd STILL win.)

Do I need to find out why I entered this cavern to begin with?
Did I wake up and find myself here?
Did I walk in on purpose?
Did I walk in hoping to find something?
Oooh. Is someone else in here, hiding from me?

Is Kaylee Kitteh Goddess the only person who knows that some of us are exploring this space and its items?

Because if a tax auditor is hanging around outside, I'm ready to yell, "It wasn't me! It was HER!"

Just kidding!, as kittehs do.

Okay, someone smarter than I am will probably pursue Gift 4.

But the kittehs are meowing, so now I want to feel around for Gift 5.

If our goddess is willing!
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Clementines are a small type of orange. Very tasty.
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Fiona wrote: 3) Is a cell phone relevant? only if you define relevant as "you do not have one" =)

Fiona dies. hee hee! plz to stay alive fiona kitteh =)

4) Are food and water relevant? (for me and the kittens. Always practical, our Fiona) there is in fact food and water in the basket ... a cask of water and a sack of Clementines

Do I need to know what Clementines are? Balin ansured dat. Iz very gud, tu. Kaylee kitteh'z favrit orangez. peelz with fingernailz, very ezee.


Okay, Gift 4:

I've read enough fantasy in my life that, when I hear something is wrapped in leather, I automatically think: blade. Knife, dagger, sword. But the dimensions sound wrong, unless the hilt is 6 inches in diameter. Oh! Which, of course, has been done; think of those royal swords with looping and coiling hilts and finger-guards. iz rectangular, tho...and heavy like brick. But iz nawt brick.

And THEN I think: a sheath that's zippered??
Am I in the right area? Should I think about other possible leather-wrapped items instead? yuo iz otwt, so plz thinkz abowt other leather-wrapped itumz. iz nawt haz sharp pointy thingz.

(Because in other cases when I think about leather, I might be thinking about Lucy Lawless or Nathan Fillion or Ben Browder, and I'd accept any of them as gifts. i want Daniel Jackson or John Sheppard, plzkthnx, but iz nawt in bag eithur. *Sigh*)

Is the creature in a bowl of freshwater or salt-water? I mean, if we need to identify the precise species. So far, I'm leaning toward trout: but what knucklehead would put a trout into a small bowl? iz onlee a baby trout! =) but iz indeed a trout. wut kind of trout it iz?

Okay. Kaylee wrote:

if you can find where the cavern comes from ... but then you'd be a lot closer to identifying EVERYTHING

Very well.

Is it what we consider to be a real place on Earth, such as the grottoes of Greece, Italy and France? noez

Is it a real cave or cavern? Or should I be thinking about fictional places? yesish Because I can blow anyone here out of the water when it comes to listing caves in fiction. balin kitteh and greg kitteh mite want to halp diz wun...were iz greg kitteh?

Does it merely appear to be a cavern? it iz wun Is it within a larger space or a larger building? Or in, loike, a frikkin spaceship or Moon colony? (If so, I'd STILL win.) lookz moar liek teh Mines of Moria, but iz nawt dat.

Do I need to find out why I entered this cavern to begin with? yez
Did I wake up and find myself here? yez
Did I walk in on purpose? iz nawt walk to dis side, but iz fallz asleep dere.
Did I walk in hoping to find something? yez
Oooh. Is someone else in here, hiding from me? dere iz no balrogz heer, iz awl gone...just yuo and teh kittehz nao. mabee dey iz sings yuo a sailin song tu amuze...

wut do yuo do wit a drunken kitteh
wut do yuo do wit a drunken kitteh
wut do yuo do wit a drunken kitteh
erly in teh mornin?

...nothin, kitteh alwaiz asleepz in mornin. But dey iz awaik nao.


Is Kaylee Kitteh Goddess the only person who knows that some of us are exploring this space and its items? Most likely =)

Because if a tax auditor is hanging around outside, I'm ready to yell, "It wasn't me! It was HER!" Noez, wuz teh kittehs.

Just kidding!, as kittehs do.

Okay, someone smarter than I am will probably pursue Gift 4.

But the kittehs are meowing, so now I want to feel around for Gift 5. kayz. yuo take owt somethin abowt teh saim size az teh leathur prezunt. Iz a wooden box liek a small sea-chest. Haz whale tail carved awn it, iz inlaid with ivory. Iz locked, but sumthin rattulz around inside.

If our goddess is willing! Iz alwaiz willin =)

Iz even willin tu do recat of prezunts.

Gift 1: A stuffed bird with a short neck and short legs. Its exact kind has yet to be identified.
Gift 2: A fishbowl with some kind of trout in it. Wrapped in pages from "Poor Richard's Almanac".
Gift 3: A cylindrical, ridged and hollow gift a few inches wide and a few inches longer than that. It's flexible.
Gift 4: A rectangular object in a leather case. A zipper goes around three sides of the case, fastened with a small lock. The fourth side has a leather strap attached to it.
Gift 5: A wooden box like a small sea-chest, about the same size as Gift 4, and locked. Something is rattling around inside it. There is a carving of a whale's tail on the chest.
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And those numbers is owt of order...'cause someone lost dis wun:
wrapped in cotton - what seems to be an old t-shirt - that says "Welcome to Intercourse" in faded letters. There is something soft and squishy inside that seems to be filled with stuffing and 'beans'. It has four legs, a tail and of course, a head attached to a longish body.
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Intercourse: the town in PA? Is a double entendre relevant?
The squishy thingy in the shirt: another stuffed animal? A kitteh?

Kittehs: iz dere a wei tu opin teh lokk on teh lethur gift?
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Intercourse: the town in PA? yez Is a double entendre relevant? noez
The squishy thingy in the shirt: another stuffed animal? yez A kitteh? noez

Kittehs: iz dere a wei tu opin teh lokk on teh lethur gift? kittehz thinkz yuo iz needs tu figure owt wut iz firstest, shuld nawt be hard foar balin kitteh, dey thinkz so
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Is there any way to tell what the object inside the leather case is made of? Or what shape it is? Is it a block of something
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Is there any way to tell what the object inside the leather case is made of? Tabby kitteh thinks it is leather and paper. Or what shape it is? Is it a block of something it is a rectangle, more or less, and fits snugly inside the leather case. It is not a block of something, though doubtless a block "of something" DOYD of "something", was used to make it.
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My Boris, black-all-over kitten, sez to me "DID BRAINZ DIED?" bcz he noez Gift 3: obvously paper towel roll! OF COARZ! Naturly, hiz favrite destructo-play-toy wuld appearz in Kaylee Kitteh Kingdom.

Balin is good friend. (Boris sayz no to Balin bcz Boris wantz play in cave 4ever with no puzzels answers. But I can friend Balin, bcz Boris have hard job to sayz anything when gets long "time out" in freezer.)

Kaylee sez: iz rectangular, tho...and heavy like brick. But iz nawt brick.
Too bad for fiona kitteh, who for yearz and yearz collects famous bricks from all over. Nathaniel Hawthorne'z garden, loike: and other great kitteh lovers.

Fiona Kitteh now wondering: Gift 4 inspired by movie "The Prestige"?
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Paper towel roll -- of course. *self-facepalm* I was thinking toilet paper for a while, but never paper towel.
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My Boris, black-all-over kitten, sez to me "DID BRAINZ DIED?" bcz he noez Gift 3: obvously paper towel roll! OF COARZ! Naturly, hiz favrite destructo-play-toy wuld appearz in Kaylee Kitteh Kingdom. Unfortunutlee, Boris Kitteh iz nawt rite. Iz nawt papur anythin.

Balin is good friend. (Boris sayz no to Balin bcz Boris wantz play in cave 4ever with no puzzels answers. But I can friend Balin, bcz Boris have hard job to sayz anything when gets long "time out" in freezer.)

Kaylee sez: iz rectangular, tho...and heavy like brick. But iz nawt brick.
Too bad for fiona kitteh, who for yearz and yearz collects famous bricks from all over. Nathaniel Hawthorne'z garden, loike: and other great kitteh lovers. wow...iz awsum!

Fiona Kitteh now wondering: Gift 4 inspired by movie "The Prestige"? nawt at all...kaylee kitteh iz nevur seen dat, soe fiona kitteh will haz tu explainin in case iz close anywai.

Paper towel roll -- of course. *self-facepalm* I was thinking toilet paper for a while, but never paper towel. iz nawt papur...iz strongur dan dat. And papur towel iz nawt ridged up sides.
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Is the cylindrical gift made of plastic?
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Is the cylindrical gift made of plastic?
i iz ask teh kittehz...dey seems pretty shur it iz maid uf plastic! iz gud plastic, tu...very strong plastic =) yayz!
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Ask the kittehs (about the stuffed bird):

Iz it edibul? Wud it be fownd in teh burdfeedurz? Iz it offin seen in teh yardz?
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Ask the kittehs (about the stuffed bird):

Iz it edibul? o yez, would be gud eatz Wud it be fownd in teh burdfeedurz? noez, iz nawt dat gud at flyin. Iz it offin seen in teh yardz? iz mabee in farmyardz, dey thinkz so.
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Iz a chikin? Duk? Terkee?
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Iz a chikin? o yez, a particulur sort of dis wun. iz a hen akshually.Duk? Terkee?
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A chicken - a hen, precisely?

Is she a layer? (relevant?)
Has she laid eggs recently? (relevant?)

Should we search for eggs (or other relationships to chickens) in any part of this quest, even if only metaphorically?

*Is* it a metaphorical hen? Or a real live chicken? Or made of human-manipulated materials?

1) I want to clarify, please:

(a) Do you want us to learn or find *facts* as well as *items* that need to be gathered and understood (maybe by logic, maybe by intuition), and

(b) each fact and action and setting, all put together, might, or should, add up to our quest. Yes? or No?

2) We should focus first on the gifts. Identify each for certain people, if poss.

3) After gifts have been distributed, we still need to exit from this dark space.

Did I get all of those correctly?

Is there a Stage 4, in which we need to use what we've been given, or learn from what we've seen, in order to go to a possible Stage 5?

Fiona kitteh is baffled - but only for now, bcz I iz good at mystery-figuring-out and playin with kittehs;

and wants to know (our Fiona is always practical) whether the kittens are mewing bcz they (1) are hungry, (2) want attention, (3) have more enigmatic purposes of their own.

Kaylee Kitteh, I am so excited by this



[[WAIT, WAIT - I wrote all of that half an hour ago - WHAT I WRITE NEXT IS OFF-TOPIC.

PLEASE IGNORE, unless you love wildlife and want to laugh at Fiona for getting excited about a small wild animal;

- here is simply Fiona chatting about NEIGHBORHOOD WILDLIFE.]]}

There's a raccoon in our back yard, feasting on a bowl of abandoned cat food!

It's, uh, it's past 2:30 a.m. here in Miami, and it's been raining and storming terribly, but I imagine nothing in the skies or on the ground can scare a raccoon. They are tough mo-fos, and so gorgeous!

My delight and amazement come from:

a) I'm a city girl. I think *squirrels* are major wildlife.

b) I live in South Miami on a major street (it's called Tevis Street, for those of you who are familiar with "The Man Who Fell to Earth"), and

c) we are right next to a strip mall, with its big PetCo and restaurants and other franchises, and

d) I HATE the cars that speed at 3x the limit down our street (and have killed two of my cats), and ambulance sirens, and the overhead train rumbling along, and youth parties, and...

But THIS is the BIG one: the raccoon dared coming here to my yard, despite the traffic and noise, and I am filled with awe and joy.

We have a small back yard, see, and it's mostly overgrown with bougainvilleas at the northern end and very lush and leafy palm tree and other shady overgrowth at the southern end. I am used to having a few feral cats come by, with hungry hopes, in the evenings. I feed them, of course.

And, every few months, opossums: young ones who are learning how to forage. I always "accidentally" leave out extra catfood for them, bcz they eat cockroaches and other nuisances (which Fiona Kitteh are alarmed by).

But a raccoon! This is great!

Oh geez, Fiona, stop being rude, Kaylee took the time to make this great puzzle.

I was so elated! But you can delete all of that, if you wish.

Many kitteh pawz hugz to Kaylee Kitteh!
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A chicken - a hen, precisely? yez

Is she a layer? (relevant?) iz stuffed aminal, so iz nawt
Has she laid eggs recently? (relevant?) iz haz nawt done that, iz nawt real hen, just lookz liek wun

Should we search for eggs (or other relationships to chickens) in any part of this quest, even if only metaphorically? findin owt what kind of hen she iz would be good

*Is* it a metaphorical hen? Or a real live chicken? Or made of human-manipulated materials? this wun

1) I want to clarify, please:

(a) Do you want us to learn or find *facts* as well as *items* that need to be gathered and understood (maybe by logic, maybe by intuition), and

(b) each fact and action and setting, all put together, might, or should, add up to our quest. Yes? factz abowt teh giftz iz halpz lotz, kittehz is shur or No?

2) We should focus first on the gifts. Identify each for certain people, if poss. You may not be able to identify the "certain people" without the help of less-new kittehz, or teh Archives. Balin kitteh should be able to...Hopefully with that BIG HINT...and remembering what this puzzle is a sequel to...this should move MUCH faster...

3) After gifts have been distributed, we still need to exit from this dark space. indeed

Did I get all of those correctly?

Is there a Stage 4, in which we need to use what we've been given, or learn from what we've seen, in order to go to a possible Stage 5? no, that'll be LatVenture part II, not 1 1/2.

Fiona kitteh is baffled - but only for now, bcz I iz good at mystery-figuring-out and playin with kittehs;

and wants to know (our Fiona is always practical) whether the kittens are mewing bcz they (1) are hungry, (2) want attention, (3) have more enigmatic purposes of their own. kittehz is dere tu halp. dey iz wuld liek cheezburgur. maybe yuo iz can find it, but only at propur tiem.

Kaylee Kitteh, I am so excited by this =)



[[WAIT, WAIT - I wrote all of that half an hour ago - WHAT I WRITE NEXT IS OFF-TOPIC.

PLEASE IGNORE, unless you love wildlife and want to laugh at Fiona for getting excited about a small wild animal;

- here is simply Fiona chatting about NEIGHBORHOOD WILDLIFE.]]}

There's a raccoon in our back yard, feasting on a bowl of abandoned cat food!

It's, uh, it's past 2:30 a.m. here in Miami, and it's been raining and storming terribly, but I imagine nothing in the skies or on the ground can scare a raccoon. They are tough mo-fos, and so gorgeous!

My delight and amazement come from:

a) I'm a city girl. I think *squirrels* are major wildlife.

b) I live in South Miami on a major street (it's called Tevis Street, for those of you who are familiar with "The Man Who Fell to Earth"), and

c) we are right next to a strip mall, with its big PetCo and restaurants and other franchises, and

d) I HATE the cars that speed at 3x the limit down our street (and have killed two of my cats), and ambulance sirens, and the overhead train rumbling along, and youth parties, and...

But THIS is the BIG one: the raccoon dared coming here to my yard, despite the traffic and noise, and I am filled with awe and joy.

We have a small back yard, see, and it's mostly overgrown with bougainvilleas at the northern end and very lush and leafy palm tree and other shady overgrowth at the southern end. I am used to having a few feral cats come by, with hungry hopes, in the evenings. I feed them, of course.

And, every few months, opossums: young ones who are learning how to forage. I always "accidentally" leave out extra catfood for them, bcz they eat cockroaches and other nuisances (which Fiona Kitteh are alarmed by).

But a raccoon! This is great!

Oh geez, Fiona, stop being rude, Kaylee took the time to make this great puzzle.

I was so elated! But you can delete all of that, if you wish. wuz fun readin!

Many kitteh pawz hugz to Kaylee Kitteh! and to fiona kitteh tu! *kitteh pawz hugz*
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Is the Calico cat a tortoise shell? Does it have anything to do with your sister?
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Is the Calico cat a tortoise shell? It is not, but... Does it have anything to do with your sister? in fact, it has quite a lot to do with Tortie, and perks up at her name
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Is the kitten's name Tortie? Is it a gift for Tortie? Does it belong to Tortie?
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Is the kitten's name Tortie? no, but... Is it a gift for Tortie? yes! Does it belong to Tortie? and therefore yes =)

George Washington calico kitteh iz pleased to have found out who iz belongz to. Though Noel is kitteh's friend, too. =) Well done! But we're just getting started...
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"We're just getting started," eh?

(1) So you do mean to have us travel after identifying all of the gifts? Or, maybe to use the gifts so that we CAN travel?

And, once we have the gifts, (2) other things will become apparent as we travel [in whatever direction KayleeGoddess thinks is right]? and,

(3) after travelling, we'll see something that knows we're on the right track?

Is Tortie following these riddle-discussions?

(Hi, Tortie!)

I salaam to KayleeGoddess and I hope that I will solve it later today. Have to go do stuff now.
This is a GREAT PUZZLE!
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"We're just getting started," eh? yes =)

(1) So you do mean to have us travel after identifying all of the gifts? yes Or, maybe to use the gifts so that we CAN travel? as to that, we'll see

And, once we have the gifts, (2) other things will become apparent as we travel [in whatever direction KayleeGoddess thinks is right]? and, once you haz teh gifts all parceled out, this piece will be solveded and we iz can get out of here =)

(3) after travelling, we'll see something that knows we're on the right track? oh yes probably, am still working on that

Is Tortie following these riddle-discussions? I do hope so, though for some reason kitteh-speak is not her usual thing. Dunno why, she is teh kitteh!

(Hi, Tortie!)

I salaam to KayleeGoddess and I hope that I will solve it later today. Have to go do stuff now.
This is a GREAT PUZZLE! If Tortie was here, I bet she could help, too! And thanks! I'm blushing!! =)
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Trying to think about the stuffed hen...

What was it wrapped in again? Will the wrapping give a hint to which LTPFer gets this?
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Trying to think about the stuffed hen...

What was it wrapped in again? Will the wrapping give a hint to which LTPFer gets this? it is wrapped in cloth dyed colonial blue with diamonds of a brownish colour on it. The wrapping gives a hint, but only an indirect one.
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Oh! Is color-coding important? You know, like, "The Sixth Sense," in which every time you see the color red, something horrifying will happen.

And (1) I've been focusing too much on tiny detail and also (2) focusing too much on how we leave this grotto.

I will try to find better questions which will work between those two poles.

But, back to the detail. You wrote: "findin owt what kind of hen she iz would be good"

I was trying to find out what kind of hen she was when I asked whether she lays eggs. But she's a toy hen, right?

Do you mean that we should focus on the species of hen, with its various colorations?
Or, rather, the meaning of the colonial blue wrapping?

Should we focus on the [real-life] chicken's types of behavior?

Or is this gift chicken having symbolism which will make sense to only one person - the one who gets the gift?

thx thx thx...
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Hmm, "colonial blue" sounds like it could be somewhat related to the Georgia Washington and Ben Franklin gifts. Is it?

Does it refer to someone who lives in one of the original 13 colonies?

Does it refer to someone who cheers for a team that wears colonial blue?
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Oh! Is color-coding important? You know, like, "The Sixth Sense," in which every time you see the color red, something horrifying will happen. i hopez nuthin terribul happenz tu us kittehz! *worried look* it shuld nawt.

And (1) I've been focusing too much on tiny detail and also (2) focusing too much on how we leave this grotto.

I will try to find better questions which will work between those two poles.

But, back to the detail. You wrote: "findin owt what kind of hen she iz would be good"

I was trying to find out what kind of hen she was when I asked whether she lays eggs. But she's a toy hen, right? right

Do you mean that we should focus on the species of hen, this one with its various colorations?
Or, rather, the meaning of the colonial blue wrapping? which is led to by this one

Should we focus on the [real-life] chicken's types of behavior? behavior? no

Or is this gift chicken having symbolism which will make sense to only one person - the one who gets the gift? teh receiver of the gift, teh kittehz sayz, is teh wun who found teh real henz last tiem

thx thx thx...iz welkum...heer, can haz cheezburgur

Hmm, "colonial blue" sounds like it could be somewhat related to the Georgia Washington and Ben Franklin gifts. Is it? DOYD of 'related'...

Does it refer to someone who lives in no, but... one of the original 13 colonies? yes, this is far more OTRT

Does it refer to someone who cheers for a team that wears colonial blue? no, OTWT
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Here's the hens I've found (on Wikipedia) that I think it could be; is it one of the following:

Blue hen of Delaware
Delaware hen
New Hampshire hen
Plymouth Rock hen
Rhode Island Red hen
Rhode Island White hen
?
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(...and obviously, if it is one of those, which is it?)
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Here's the hens I've found (on Wikipedia) that I think it could be; is it one of the following:

Blue hen of Delaware kittehz identifiez as dis wun...nao, whose iz it? =)
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So does this go to a puzzler from Delaware?
I've been looking at profiles: neither I, Nimue, Ixoye, Solitaire, Vesica, you, Biograd, Fiona, Gregory, or Noel are from Delaware. I don't know who's left. Assuming my initial assumption was correct.
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So does this go to a puzzler from Delaware? it doesn't, lol. You have an FA.
I've been looking at profiles: neither I, Nimue, Ixoye, Solitaire, Vesica, you, Biograd, Fiona, Gregory, or Noel are from Delaware. I don't know who's left. Assuming my initial assumption was correct.Although the recipient is actually on that list. =)
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Is the "blue" bit relevant?
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Is the "blue" bit relevant? it's the flag of Delaware...where might you have seen Delaware blue hens before?
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University of Delaware relevant (it's their mascot)?
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University of Delaware relevant (it's their mascot)?
noez...kittehz lukz very confuseded nao
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Are any of the following relevant (c'mon Wikipedia, don't fail me now =) ):

The Delaware Blue Hen is the state bird of Delaware?
It's not a currently recognized breed of chicken?
It was popularly used for cockfighting during the Revolutionary War? hmm, there seems to be an American Revolution theme popping up all over this puzzle...
Because of the above, it's a type of gamecock...South Carolina Gamecocks relevant?
It is not native to the US?
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Are any of the following relevant (c'mon Wikipedia, don't fail me now =) ):

The Delaware Blue Hen is the state bird of Delaware? yes!
It's not a currently recognized breed of chicken? it isn't? o.O
It was popularly used for cockfighting during the Revolutionary War? hmm, there seems to be an American Revolution theme popping up all over this puzzle... =)
Because of the above, it's a type of gamecock...South Carolina Gamecocks relevant? no
It is not native to the US? really? well, all that's important is that it's Delaware's state bird =)
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So is someone from the state of Delaware relevant? Something that happened in Delaware? Delaware's state nickname? Delaware's state motto? Something found in Delaware?
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So is someone from the state of Delaware relevant? no Something that happened in Delaware? yope Delaware's state nickname? only in that the Delaware gift came out first =) Delaware's state motto? that was some other puzzle =P Something found in Delaware? well, someone did find blue hens in "Delaware"...that might prove useful to know
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In your LatVenture where we went through the states, it was La_sparky who came across the hens, but me who got the quarter from them. So is this my gift? La_sparky's?
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In your LatVenture where we went through the states, it was La_sparky who came across the hens, but me who got the quarter from them. dis is tru!So is this my gift? La_sparky's? kittehz has discushun bowt it...hen is wrapped in delaware flag, flag iz sparky's gift, but hen iz foar balin kitteh! =) yayz!
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All right, that's 3 down, and...however many to go. Thanks for the hen! =)
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All right, that's 3 down, and...however many to go. Thanks for the hen! =) iz welcome! yez, is lotz of presents to give owt...we may be here until we can say woubit christmas puzzel...I hopez nawt =P but then again with such lovely kittehz and friends workin on puzzel, maybe goez fastur nao? =)

anywai, it wuz nawt question, but I treatz it as request for recat:

You are in what appears to be a cavern, lit by natural light through overhead shafts. Beside you is a straw basket and a large sack which appears to have been made out of a picnic blanket. It is bulging with gifts.

Some of these gifts have been discovered/identified already, thus:
Three itteh bitteh kittehs to help you find the other gifts.
- Calico named George Washington - for Tortiekitten
- Tabby kitteh
- Maine Coon kitteh

1. a rather lumpy gift, wrapped in a cloth dyed colonial blue with diamonds of a brownish colour on it. (The cloth is Delaware's flag, the gift inside is a stuffed representation of a Delaware blue hen. The flag is La_sparky's gift, and the hen is for Balin. =) )
2. A fishbowl containing baby freshwater trout of a specific sort, wrapped in pages from Benjamin Franklin's "Poor Richard's Almanac"
3. A cylindrical, flexible object made of plastic, hollow in the middle and ridged all around the outside.
4. This gift is rectangular. It is about 2 1/2 - 3 inches thick, about a foot long, and half as wide across (6 inches.) It is wrapped only in a dark brown leather cover, with a zipper that goes around three sides, and a leather strap on the other, presumably for carrying it. There is a lock on the zipper.
5. A wooden box like a small sea-chest, about the same size as Gift 4, and locked. Something is rattling around inside it. There is a carving of a whale's tail on the chest.
6. wrapped in cotton - what seems to be an old t-shirt - that says "Welcome to Intercourse" in faded letters. There is something soft and squishy inside that seems to be filled with stuffing and 'beans'. It has four legs, a tail and of course, a head attached to a longish body.
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Oh wow...we're going state-by-state with the gifts, aren't we?

So the Intercourse shirt leads to Pennsylvania. The leather-wrapped gift...a book? A Bible? (I bet that's it...I used to have a Bible with that sort of wrapper.)
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Oh wow...we're going state-by-state with the gifts, aren't we? well, except for the kittehz, this seems to be right

So the Intercourse shirt leads to Pennsylvania. It does, yes =) The leather-wrapped gift...a book? A Bible? (I bet that's it...I used to have a Bible with that sort of wrapper.) it is a Bible! very good Balin kitteh =)
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One more question: Is there only one gift per person?
And one more "one more" question: Do the gifts go to the people who found the quarter in whatever state?
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One more question: Is there only one gift per person? nope
And one more "one more" question: Do the gifts go to the people who found the quarter in whatever state? yes, although...
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Are the gifts in state order?
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Are the gifts in state order? mostly. We've barely opened the sack and I feel like my puzzle's already over. =( It's supposed to be a lateral adventure. Maybe I fail at them...
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No, no, this is not a fail! We still don't know what the gifts are, remember.

OK, now I have to go back to the first adventure and look around. But first...


The cylindrical roll: Is it a roll of Saran wrap?
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No, no, this is not a fail! We still don't know what the gifts are, remember. Well, no, I suppose you don't, lol.

OK, now I have to go back to the first adventure and look around. But first... First...

The cylindrical roll: Is it a roll of Saran wrap? No, it isn't, lol
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Ok, looking through the stuff from "How do we get out?" I notice that we have a Slinky and a KJV Bible -- could these be the two gifts? Are the gifts from the Basket O' Holding in the first puzzle?
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Ok, looking through the stuff from "How do we get out?" I notice that we have a Slinky and a KJV Bible -- could these be the two gifts? they are Are the gifts from the Basket O' Holding in the first puzzle? yes, indeed =) clevur Balin kitteh, teh kittehz sayz...
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Back to Basket o' Holding hunting then...let's see if someone else pops in on the puzzle.
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The stuffed animal in the Intercourse shirt -- is that the Great Dane?
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The stuffed animal in the Intercourse shirt -- is that the Great Dane? kittehz says it iz...they iz givz it a lot of space =)
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I'm going to try and recap, since my computer's running slow and not letting me use the search board or access the first part of this.

-The gifts in the sack are from the Basket o' Holding from your "How do we get out?" adventure.
-The gifts go to the person who found them in the first place(?)
-The sack is made from a tablecloth, which was one of the items in the BoH in the first bit.
-The gifts are mostly in state order.

Does that look good?
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I'm going to try and recap, since my computer's running slow and not letting me use the search board or access the first part of this. o yay, can haz recat...but how mean of computur!

-The gifts in the sack are from the Basket o' Holding from your "How do we get out?" adventure.
-The gifts go to the person who found them in the first place(?)
-The sack is made from a tablecloth, which was one of the items in the BoH in the first bit.
-The gifts are mostly in state order.

Does that look good? kittehz sayz lukz purrfect, balin kitteh! yayz!
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o deer kittehz:

it seemz dat sinss wi hav teh jenurul idee abowt hao diz puzul wurkz, purrhapz u wud bee kind kittehz and diztribyoot teh giftz fur us? sew dat wi kud get owt uv diz plais?
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o deer kittehz:

it seemz dat sinss wi hav teh jenurul idee abowt hao diz puzul wurkz, purrhapz u wud bee kind kittehz and diztribyoot teh giftz fur us? sew dat wi kud get owt uv diz plais? kittehz is kind kittehz and removez pyul of prezuntz frum bag. dey iz tryz to divide up...most iz goez tu balin kitteh. perhapz balin kitteh mite lookz thru dem? teh kittehz' cheezburgur seemz tu be in pyul sumwerez...iz shur dere iz papur bag in dere...
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We got teh ghostly cheezburgerz from the Haunted Mansion...hunt around for them in the pile. Are they in the paper bag?
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We got teh ghostly cheezburgerz from the Haunted Mansion...hunt around for them in the pile. Are they in the paper bag?
kittehz iz findin papur bag dat sayz "Haunted Mansion Cheezburgurz...iz alwaiz room foar wun moar"...which is gud az kittehz is shur yuo cannot evur haz enuf. Iz openz bag, and findz cheezburgurz! 99 of dem! clevur balin kitteh...kittehz iz nomz dem while gifts iz shared around. =)
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All right!!

So now that the gifts are distributed, take a look around. Is there any obvious way out? Lesser obvious way out? Anything that might remotely be a way out?
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All right!!

So now that the gifts are distributed, take a look around. Is there any obvious way out? Lesser obvious way out? Anything that might remotely be a way out?

iz maybes can getz owt thru air shafts at top of cave, if iz usez balloon again, kittehz thinkz so. Iz wantz tu try it? needz tu find popcorn machine again...where it went?
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The popcorn machine should be in my pile, somewhere around Illinois.

The tablecloth was the sack the gifts are wrapped in, and the basket was right next to it. Reassemble, then, and float away...?
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The popcorn machine should be in my pile, somewhere around Illinois. it iz...iz wrapped in popcorn bagz...how convenient.

The tablecloth was the sack the gifts are wrapped in, and the basket was right next to it. Reassemble, then, and float away...? o yez, let'z do dat...

***iz makez baskut, getz in baskut, and fliez awai...***

and as you fly through the shafts in the roof of the cavern, you find yourself getting very sleepy indeed...hopefully you'll wake in time for the next puzzle! and before teh kittehz eatz awl teh cheezburgurz...and popcorn...

***SPOILER***

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