| Author | Message | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 857 Registered: 8-2010 |
This is a Connections puzzle. The title is only vaguely relevant; it is (mostly) a quote from The Eleventh Hour by Graeme Base, which is not relevant at all. It's also a bit of an original idea, but saying exactly how would $poil the solution (or part of it). What connects: -a misplaced pot, -a question asked too soon, and -a location without reason? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11171 Registered: 4-2010 |
Pot - a physical pot? A kettle? Teapot? A pot used for cooking? Question - a common question? Is this from a work of fiction? A real-life scenario? | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3226 Registered: 1-2007 |
Pot as in snooker or pool? | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3624 Registered: 9-2009 |
Pot as in marihuana? Misplaced as in: placed in a relevant, wrong location? Simply lost? Did the question asked to soon reveal that the asker knew something s/he tried to hide? Relevant who asked? Relevant who heard it? Location: physical place? Was there something or someone in the location, without having a reason to be there? People involved: 1? 2? 3-5? 6-23? 24-77? More? Less? Has a crime been committed? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 862 Registered: 8-2010 |
Pot - a physical pot? yes A kettle? Teapot? neither of these A pot used for cooking? yope Question - a common question? no Is this from a work of fiction? this A real-life scenario? Pot as in snooker or pool? no Pot as in marihuana? no Misplaced as in: placed in a relevant, wrong location? yes Simply lost? no Did the question asked to soon reveal that the asker knew something s/he tried to hide? no Relevant who asked? yes Relevant who heard it? yes You have a bit of an FA about the "question asked too soon." Location: physical place? yesish Was there something or someone in the location, without having a reason to be there? no, it's more lateral than that =) People involved: 1? 2? 2 if you're talking about the location without reason ... 3-5? 6-23? 7 if you mean the whole puzzle 24-77? More? Less? Has a crime been committed? no; also, to clarify, these are all different items mostly irrelevant to each other, with one common bond (the goal is to figure out the bond) | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11207 Registered: 4-2010 |
Question asked too soon - by a person? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 864 Registered: 8-2010 |
Question asked too soon - by a person? yope; this is not the FA, but the FA is still present here | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11214 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is there only one question? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 867 Registered: 8-2010 |
Is there only one question? yes, not the FA | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11222 Registered: 4-2010 |
The misplaced pot - made of metal? Would "lost" be a better word than "misplaced"? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 872 Registered: 8-2010 |
The misplaced pot - made of metal? irrel Would "lost" be a better word than "misplaced"? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11231 Registered: 4-2010 |
Pot - used in relation to food? Drink? Water? An urn? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 875 Registered: 8-2010 |
Pot - used in relation to food? Drink? Water? An urn? no to all | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 3629 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was the question: spoken? Written? Communicated in some other way? Communicated in real time? Face to face? Too soon: too early in time? Before something relevant, as opposed to after? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1237 Registered: 9-2009 |
Do the three phrases in the puzzle statement reference works of art? Of literature? Songs? Only some of them do this? Only one? Are they descriptions of said works? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 878 Registered: 8-2010 |
Was the question: spoken? this Written? and this Communicated in some other way? Communicated in real time? not sure what you mean Face to face? no, you have another FA ... great Too soon: too early in time? yesish Before something relevant, as opposed to after? this may be closer Do the three phrases in the puzzle statement reference works of art? this, more specifically ... Of literature? this Songs? Only some of them do this? Only one? all three Are they descriptions of said works? yope | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11279 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was the question asked by only one person? More than one? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 881 Registered: 8-2010 |
Was the question asked by only one person? this More than one? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11284 Registered: 4-2010 |
Asker of the question - H? A? M? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 882 Registered: 8-2010 |
Asker of the question - H? A? M? definitely human and male, not sure what age | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11290 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the question from a book? Movie? TV show? Video? Song? | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1242 Registered: 9-2009 |
The three works of literature: poetry? novels? short stories? plays? Do they share a common author? Were they originally written in : English? French? German? Italian? Spanish? Russian? Other? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 886 Registered: 8-2010 |
Is the question from a book? Movie? noish, no to rest TV show? Video? Song? The three works of literature: poetry? novels? short stories? plays? this Do they share a common author? yes Were they originally written in : English? this French? German? Italian? Spanish? Russian? Other? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2836 Registered: 9-2010 |
William Shakespeare relevant? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 889 Registered: 8-2010 |
William Shakespeare relevant? aye | ||
| Rbruma (Rbruma)
New member Username: Rbruma Post Number: 1253 Registered: 9-2009 |
Was Mr. Shakespeare the author? Is the puzzle about finding the plays that fit the puzzle statement? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 891 Registered: 8-2010 |
Was Mr. Shakespeare the author? yes Is the puzzle about finding the plays that fit the puzzle statement? partly, but this alone is not the connection | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2843 Registered: 9-2010 |
are the plays tragedies? comedies? histories? Hamlet? Macbeth? Othello? Romeo and Juliet? As You Like It? Twelfth Night? The Tempest? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 893 Registered: 8-2010 |
are the plays tragedies? this comedies? histories? Hamlet? this Macbeth? this Othello? Romeo and Juliet? and this, in some order As You Like It? Twelfth Night? The Tempest? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11320 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the pot related to the cauldron from the Scottish play? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 894 Registered: 8-2010 |
Is the pot related to the cauldron from the Scottish play? more than just that -- it IS the cauldron | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11376 Registered: 4-2010 |
Continuing on the "shots in the dark" theme - is the question "Romeo, Romeo, wherefore art thou Romeo?" | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 896 Registered: 8-2010 |
Continuing on the "shots in the dark" theme - is the question "Romeo, Romeo, wherefore art thou Romeo?" no, but OTRT in two different ways | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2884 Registered: 9-2010 |
is it relevant that "wherefore" means "why", and therefore Juliet was asking "WHY are you Romeo?" not "WHERE are you?" which is what many people think she's saying? (this easy to make error is a rather common scrund, I'm sure) | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 899 Registered: 8-2010 |
is it relevant that "wherefore" means "why", and therefore Juliet was asking "WHY are you Romeo?" not "WHERE are you?" which is what many people think she's saying? (this easy to make error is a rather common scrund, I'm sure) YES -- this scrund is the "location without reason." Now what do the other two clues connect to? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11382 Registered: 4-2010 |
So the "misplaced pot" is the cauldron from the Scottish play, although I'm not sure exactly how it's misplaced... That leaves the question asked too soon to be from Hamlet, right? Is the question asked by Hamlet? Claudius? Laertes? Polonius? Whatever-the-queen's-name-is? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2888 Registered: 9-2010 |
The Queen's name is Gertrude, Balin =D | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 903 Registered: 8-2010 |
So the "misplaced pot" is the cauldron from the Scottish play, although I'm not sure exactly how it's misplaced... this relates to your FA on the question, actually That leaves the question asked too soon to be from Hamlet, right? Is the question asked by Hamlet? this Claudius? Laertes? Polonius? Whatever-the-queen's-name-is? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11395 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the cauldron actually misplaced? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2896 Registered: 9-2010 |
Hamlet's "To be, or not to be" soliloquy relevant? As in, "To be, or not to be, that is the question..." etc.? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 904 Registered: 8-2010 |
Is the cauldron actually misplaced? yope Hamlet's "To be, or not to be" soliloquy relevant? As in, "To be, or not to be, that is the question..." etc.? that IS the question, yes | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2897 Registered: 9-2010 |
well, it's helpful that I did a puzzle based on that, then...lol So the cauldron is relevant...we're talking about Act 4, scene 1 then, yes? Is the spell relevant? The cauldron's ingredients? (both listed below, from this link at poets.org The three witches, casting a spell Round about the cauldron go; In the poison’d entrails throw. Toad, that under cold stone Days and nights hast thirty one Swelter’d venom sleeping got, Boil thou first i’ the charmed pot. Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn and cauldron bubble. Fillet of a fenny snake, In the cauldron boil and bake; Eye of newt, and toe of frog, Wool of bat, and tongue of dog, Adder’s fork, and blind-worm’s sting, Lizard’s leg, and howlet’s wing, For a charm of powerful trouble, Like a hell-broth boil and bubble. Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn and cauldron bubble. Scale of dragon, tooth of wolf, Witches’ mummy, maw and gulf Of the ravin’d salt-sea shark, Root of hemlock digg’d i’ the dark, Liver of blaspheming Jew, Gall of goat, and slips of yew Sliver’d in the moon’s eclipse, Nose of Turk, and Tartar’s lips, Finger of birth-strangled babe Ditch-deliver’d by a drab, Make the gruel thick and slab: Add thereto a tiger’s chaudron, For the ingredients of our cauldron. Double, double toil and trouble; Fire burn and cauldron bubble. | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 907 Registered: 8-2010 |
So the cauldron is relevant...we're talking about Act 4, scene 1 then, yes? yes Is the spell relevant? The cauldron's ingredients? neither really | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2898 Registered: 9-2010 |
the witches? Hecate? Macbeth? Macduff? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 908 Registered: 8-2010 |
the witches? Hecate? Macbeth? Macduff? well, the entire scene is relevant, but not anything specific | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2899 Registered: 9-2010 |
then I iz confuseded kaylee kitteh :-( could I please have a hint to put me otrt? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 909 Registered: 8-2010 |
then I iz confuseded kaylee kitteh :-( could I please have a hint to put me otrt? the entire scene is relevant and referred to by the word "pot" -- what does "misplaced" mean? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2900 Registered: 9-2010 |
Verb to misplace (third-person singular simple present misplaces, present participle misplacing, simple past and past participle misplaced) (transitive) To put something somewhere and then forget its location; to mislay (figuratively) To apply one's talents inappropriately. To put something in the wrong location. | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 910 Registered: 8-2010 |
To put something in the wrong location. This is the relevant definition. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2903 Registered: 9-2010 |
So the cauldron was "in the wrong location"...it was in a cavern, as I recall. It should have been somewhere else? Upon the "withered heath" perhaps, where the three witches first met Macbeth? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 912 Registered: 8-2010 |
So the cauldron was "in the wrong location"...it was in a cavern, as I recall. It should have been somewhere else? Upon the "withered heath" perhaps, where the three witches first met Macbeth? no to both, you have one or two FAs here | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2905 Registered: 9-2010 |
could you please recap or hint to clear them up? I recall you saying the pot (the cauldron) was misplaced... | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 914 Registered: 8-2010 |
could you please recap or hint to clear them up? I recall you saying the pot (the cauldron) was misplaced... It was misplaced, but not because it was in the cavern. Think more laterally and less literally. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 2906 Registered: 9-2010 |
...I want to say maybe it was in the wrong story, but all the stories I can think of featuring a witch's cauldron came from after, not before. Except possibly the story of Ceridwen and Taliesin... | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 915 Registered: 8-2010 |
...I want to say maybe it was in the wrong story, but all the stories I can think of featuring a witch's cauldron came from after, not before. Except possibly the story of Ceridwen and Taliesin... not the wrong story, but OTRT | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11417 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was it in the wrong act? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 916 Registered: 8-2010 |
Was it in the wrong act? well, yope; you have a bit of an FA here, but this is what I'm looking for | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11465 Registered: 4-2010 |
Was it misplaced in the play? In a performance of the play? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 918 Registered: 8-2010 |
Was it misplaced in the play? no In a performance of the play? yope, I think, but I can't remember for sure | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 919 Registered: 8-2010 |
Okay, I looked it up. The answer is definitely yope. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11476 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the actual text in the play relevant at all? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 921 Registered: 8-2010 |
Is the actual text in the play relevant at all? yesish | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11568 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is a translation of the text relevant? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 923 Registered: 8-2010 |
Is a translation of the text relevant? noish | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 925 Registered: 8-2010 |
Oh, and before you ask, the title is no longer relevant; it was only meant to point you to Shakespeare due to the iambic pentameter. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 11575 Registered: 4-2010 |
Could you recap what we know about the cauldron? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 928 Registered: 8-2010 |
Could you recap what we know about the cauldron? The "misplaced pot" refers to the cauldron scene from Macbeth, which in a yopish performance of the play was placed in the wrong act. You don't really need to figure out anything more, except for one small detail that won't be relevant until making the final connection. So what does Hamlet's soliloquy have to do with all this? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12317 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are any of the specific lines in the soliloquy relevant? Or the soliloquy as a whole? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 949 Registered: 8-2010 |
Are any of the specific lines in the soliloquy relevant? not really, mainly the first line, but this fact is irrelevant in itself Or the soliloquy as a whole? more this | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 12451 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are the circumstances surrounding the soliloquy relevant? Events? Hamlet's emotions? The soliloquy's meaning? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 236 Registered: 2-2011 |
is the connection to do with a specific performance of each play? or a particular actor? in the way the scene/speech is written? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 951 Registered: 8-2010 |
Are the circumstances surrounding the soliloquy relevant? yesish Events? noish Hamlet's emotions? The soliloquy's meaning? no to both is the connection to do with a specific performance of each play? no or a particular actor? no in the way the scene/speech is written? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 13023 Registered: 4-2010 |
The super-long anagram of the first part of the soliloquy relevant? (Which I highly doubt, but what the hey.) | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 959 Registered: 8-2010 |
The super-long anagram of the first part of the soliloquy relevant? your doubts guide you well; no, sorry | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 13051 Registered: 4-2010 |
"Yopish performance of the play" - something visual? A video? An adaptation? A movie? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 964 Registered: 8-2010 |
"Yopish performance of the play" - something visual? yes A video? yope An adaptation? yesish A movie? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 13082 Registered: 4-2010 |
A musical? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 967 Registered: 8-2010 |
A musical? no | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3404 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is misquoting Shakespeare's work relevant? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 969 Registered: 8-2010 |
Is misquoting Shakespeare's work relevant? Not "misquoting" per se, but OTRT. I would work on the soliloquy rather than the cauldron. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 13146 Registered: 4-2010 |
Length of the soliloquy relevant? The circumstances surrounding it? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 971 Registered: 8-2010 |
Length of the soliloquy relevant? noish The circumstances surrounding it? yesish | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 572 Registered: 8-2001 |
First, much respect for referencing 11th Hour. LOVED that and 7th Guest. Do they even make games like those anymore? Apologies but I’m a bit new to these Connections puzzles. So the location without reason does refer to the “Wherefore” question from Romeo & Juliet, not anything in “the Scottish play”? Or the word is correct, but the clue refers to it’s use in “the Scottish play”? We know the pot is the cauldron and it’s “misplaced” as in being in the wrong scene. Was it just the cauldron or were the witches and that whole thing in the wrong place in the play? (Adapted play, whatever…) So we are working on the question asked too soon? Is Hamlet’s speech about Yorick relevant? To be or not to be? THAT question? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 973 Registered: 8-2010 |
So the location without reason does refer to the “Wherefore” question from Romeo & Juliet, not anything in “the Scottish play”? correct Or the word is correct, but the clue refers to it’s use in “the Scottish play”? no We know the pot is the cauldron and it’s “misplaced” as in being in the wrong scene. Was it just the cauldron or were the witches and that whole thing in the wrong place in the play? this is not a yes or no question; the whole thing (Adapted play, whatever…) So we are working on the question asked too soon? yes Is Hamlet’s speech about Yorick relevant? no To be or not to be? THAT question? yes | ||
| Vesica (Vesica)
New member Username: Vesica Post Number: 654 Registered: 8-2001 |
Was "to be or not to be" asked in the wrong act? The wrong play? Before the play started? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 976 Registered: 8-2010 |
Was "to be or not to be" asked in the wrong act? this The wrong play? Before the play started? not quite | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2640 Registered: 7-2009 |
Was "To be or not to be" quoted at the beginning of a play during the -- oh what do you call it -- when the director or some cast member comes out and welcomes the audience and does a brief intro to the play? In the opening act? Is the "Rozencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead" at all relevant, by any distant chance? Some other dramatic adaptation that puts some sort of a twist on one of Shakespeare's plays? On multiple plays all at once? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 977 Registered: 8-2010 |
Was "To be or not to be" quoted at the beginning of a play during the -- oh what do you call it -- when the director or some cast member comes out and welcomes the audience and does a brief intro to the play? no In the opening act? yes Is the "Rozencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead" at all relevant, by any distant chance? no Some other dramatic adaptation that puts some sort of a twist on one of Shakespeare's plays? yesish for the cauldron, no for the soliloquy On multiple plays all at once? no | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3415 Registered: 1-2007 |
Longshot this as I don't know where you're from Whirligig but is the sitcom Blackadder relevant? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2648 Registered: 7-2009 |
Is the soliloquy said in the first act on purpose (i.e. the director or someone wrote it into a script that way or told an actor to say it)? Or because an actor forgot a line and blurted out the soliloquy for some reason? Was it the actor playing Hamlet who said it too early? A different actor in the play? Someone affiliated with the production of the play who wasn't actually an actor? Someone from the audience? | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2649 Registered: 7-2009 |
Also, is either the Hamlet or Macbeth production actually a play within a play (i.e. it's occurring within a movie (or play) about a group of actors putting on Hamlet or Macbeth? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 13652 Registered: 4-2010 |
Peter: If your guess is right I will be kicking myself repeatedly. | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 978 Registered: 8-2010 |
Longshot this as I don't know where you're from Whirligig but is the sitcom Blackadder relevant? no Is the soliloquy said in the first act on purpose (i.e. the director or someone wrote it into a script that way or told an actor to say it)? Or because an actor forgot a line and blurted out the soliloquy for some reason? neither Was it the actor playing Hamlet who said it too early? eh, sort of A different actor in the play? Someone affiliated with the production of the play who wasn't actually an actor? Someone from the audience? really none of these Also, is either the Hamlet or Macbeth production actually a play within a play (i.e. it's occurring within a movie (or play) about a group of actors putting on Hamlet or Macbeth? if you're going to nest parentheses, make sure you close all of them; and as for your actual question, yesish to Macbeth and no to Hamlet | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 13902 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did anyone actually say the soliloquy? Was it just alluded to? Could you please recap? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 980 Registered: 8-2010 |
Did anyone actually say the soliloquy? no Was it just alluded to? yope Could you please recap? *****RECAP***** Your goal is to find the connection between these three things: -In a sort of adaptation of Mac—the Scottish play, the witches' chorus was performed at the beginning instead of Act IV. -There is a sort of hypothetical situation that never really happened involving Hamlet's famous soliloquy being given in the first act by mistake. -A common scrund is that the "wherefore" in "Wherefore art thou Romeo?" means "where," so the question is "Where are you, Romeo?" In reality "wherefore" means "why," so Juliet is actually asking "WHY are you Romeo?" as in "Why does the guy I'm in love with have to be my almost mortal enemy as far as family rivalries go?" You don't have too much to figure out; all that's left is where exactly this "hypothetical situation" involving Hamlet comes from, and what the connection is. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 13917 Registered: 4-2010 |
Forgetting lines relevant? Ad-libbing? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 981 Registered: 8-2010 |
Forgetting lines relevant? noish Ad-libbing? no | ||
| Haenlomal (Haenlomal)
Moderator Username: Haenlomal Post Number: 8 Registered: 10-2008 |
Hi Whirlgig, In order to help move this puzzle along, consider posting another recap (yes, I know you just posted one), along with one or two hints. -- The Haen. | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 982 Registered: 8-2010 |
If nobody seems to be interested in this puzzle anymore, I may just $poil it in a couple of days rather than post a recap. For now, a HINT: The adaptation of the Scottish play is relevant because it gave me a scrund that the witches' scene took place at the beginning of the play. So what's the hypothetical situation? And what's the connection? They should be pretty obvious. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 13982 Registered: 4-2010 |
Did the adaptation place the witches' scene at the beginning? Come to think of it, doesn't the play start with a different witches' scene? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 983 Registered: 8-2010 |
Did the adaptation place the witches' scene at the beginning? yes, but not too relevant at this point Come to think of it, doesn't the play start with a different witches' scene? yes but completely irrel | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3515 Registered: 1-2007 |
Is the key connection the word wherefore? If the witches scene took place at the start rather than at the begining of the play did you think that act 4 was gone i.e. where four? What about Who , What , Where , When , Why. Are the 5 Ws relevant? I could throw in Which (or witch) to make 6 Ws. | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 984 Registered: 8-2010 |
Is the key connection the word wherefore? If the witches scene took place at the start rather than at the begining of the play did you think that act 4 was gone i.e. where four? What about Who , What , Where , When , Why. Are the 5 Ws relevant? I could throw in Which (or witch) to make 6 Ws. These are all interesting ideas, but OTWT. Think more generally about the situations and what they might have in common. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14002 Registered: 4-2010 |
There are no "characters in the background" in any of the scenes -- relevant? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 985 Registered: 8-2010 |
There are no "characters in the background" in any of the scenes -- relevant? no, not really -- you're still way OTWT | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4008 Registered: 9-2009 |
All three situations are mistakes/misconceptions regarding plays, is that relevant? Is that what connects them? Do we need to know how the hypothetical situation arose? Do we need to know anything about the play Hamlet itself (other than we can infer from the puzzle so far)? Would a person seeing all the plays with the mistakes made, having the scrund, but not knowing that any of the mistakes were mistakes, be able to make the connection? | ||
| Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig Post Number: 986 Registered: 8-2010 |
All three situations are mistakes/misconceptions regarding plays, is that relevant? YES Is that what connects them? YES YES YES Do we need to know how the hypothetical situation arose? no Do we need to know anything about the play Hamlet itself (other than we can infer from the puzzle so far)? no Would a person seeing all the plays with the mistakes made, having the scrund, but not knowing that any of the mistakes were mistakes, be able to make the connection? maybe I think I should put this one to rest ... **********SPOILER********** All three refer to scrunds I've had about Shakespeare plays. The "misplaced pot" refers to my scrund until I read it that the cauldron scene took place at the beginning of the Scottish play rather than act 4. The "question asked too soon" is Hamlet's soliloquy, which I thought again was at the beginning of the play. The "location without reason" is Juliet's "wherefore" statement, which means "why" and not "where." Galfisk, you *finally* solved this one after almost SEVEN WHOLE MONTHS. Congrats. I did say I was going to post a Lateral Adventure, didn't I? I might (if I can even remember how it went), but keep in mind that I'm kind of busy now. Heh. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14242 Registered: 4-2010 |
Seven months of us overthinking again...nice puzzle! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14243 Registered: 4-2010 |
Seven months of us overthinking again...nice puzzle! | ||
| Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel Post Number: 2772 Registered: 7-2009 |
Whew, Balin's right, we definitely overthought this one. Whirligig, I'd like to congratulate and thank you for sticking with this puzzle as a host, because it must have been so frustrating for you that we were stuck at pretty much the same place for months. |
