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Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 114 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, August 13, 2011 - 10:58 pm: |      |
I believe in signs - I really do. But now I don't know what to believe. |
Whirligig (Whirligig)
New member Username: Whirligig
Post Number: 1002 Registered: 8-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2011 - 3:50 am: |      |
On a random thought, is 1984 relevant? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1554 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2011 - 11:30 am: |      |
signs as in portents? or as in road traffic signs? have you seen a sign? did it lead to the opposite of what you expected? |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 119 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, August 14, 2011 - 6:43 pm: |      |
On a random thought, is 1984 relevant? No signs as in portents?No or as in road traffic signs? Yessish have you seen a sign? Yes did it lead to the opposite of what you expected? It did not lead to any action on my part, except puzzlement. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14262 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 12:59 am: |      |
Is a typo relevant? Some other form of muddled-up language? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1558 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 8:33 am: |      |
not a traffice sign then? was it a sign at the side of the road? was it a sign to a particular location? population? was it an advert? did it have a religious meaning? |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 122 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Monday, August 15, 2011 - 10:35 pm: |      |
Is a typo relevant?no Some other form of muddled-up language? yes; you might say ambigious language not a traffice sign then? was it a sign at the side of the road? no to both was it a sign to a particular location? Yes! population? no was it an advert? did it have a religious meaning? no to both |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1562 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 8:18 am: |      |
did the sign just have the name of a town on it? does this word mean something else? or part of the name? does the word contain the word "right"? "left"? "back"? |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 4102 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 2:29 pm: |      |
Does the sign point somewhere? Does it contradict itself? Or contradict something in the vicinity? Like another sign? |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 125 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 5:47 pm: |      |
did the sign just have the name of a town on it? No; not that type of sign does this word mean something else? a word that can be interpreted in different ways. or part of the name? No does the word contain the word "right"? "left"? "back"? no; not a directional sign Does the sign point somewhere? No.Does it contradict itself? If read in a certain way, it would seem to contradict itself. Or contradict something in the vicinity? Like another sign? No to both. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14306 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2011 - 6:02 pm: |      |
Did it give the distance to a certain place? The direction? |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 126 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 12:13 am: |      |
Did it give the distance to a certain place? The direction? No. Hint: The title is relevant. |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14321 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 12:16 am: |      |
Was the sign for a government building? Was the sign advertising the place? |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 2801 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 12:26 am: |      |
Is the sign a billboard? A road construction sign? |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 129 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 3:11 am: |      |
Was the sign for a government building? Yessish Was the sign advertising the place? no Is the sign a billboard? No A road construction sign? No, but you're sorta OTRT. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 4115 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 8:07 am: |      |
Was it a temporary sign? Did it have; text? Symbol(s)? Was it an electronic sign? Relevant? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1568 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 9:45 am: |      |
was it a sign giving out information? like "express highway due for completion 2020?" one of my favourites is "POLICE SLOW" |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 4228 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 7:21 pm: |      |
or "SLOW CHILDREN" with a picture of a child-stick figure *running*... |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 131 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 17, 2011 - 9:05 pm: |      |
Was it a temporary sign?At least semi-permanent. I suppose it could have been moved if necessary. Did it have; text? Yes Symbol(s)? No Was it an electronic sign? No, just a plain sign, about the size of a traffic sign, but not one. Relevant? Yes was it a sign giving out information? Yessish - and instruction like "express highway due for completion 2020?" one of my favourites is "POLICE SLOW" or "SLOW CHILDREN" with a picture of a child-stick figure *running*... heehee..Not these, although they are OTRT because of seeming contradictory. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 4143 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 8:31 am: |      |
Was the instruction to: do something? Refrain from doing something? Watch out for something? Ignore something? Could adding punctuation help making the meaning clearer/unambiguous? |
Noel (Noel)
New member Username: Noel
Post Number: 2810 Registered: 7-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 12:33 pm: |      |
Was "road construction" sort of on the right track because: The sign related to construction? The sign had something to do with a road? The sign referred to a deadline or timeline of some sort? The sign described a task being done? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1588 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 12:48 pm: |      |
was any part of the govenment mentioned? Defence? Police? Capitol? was it one of those historic monument signs? |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 135 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 7:17 pm: |      |
Was the instruction to: do something? Refrain from doing something? Both, but more 'refrain from' for most. Watch out for something? Ignore something? No to both Could adding punctuation help making the meaning clearer/unambiguous? Punctuation not relevant. Was "road construction" sort of on the right track because: The sign related to construction? No The sign had something to do with a road? Yope, but only tangentally. The sign referred to a deadline or timeline of some sort? No The sign described a task being done? No was any part of the govenment mentioned? Yes Defence?yope Police? Capitol? no to these was it one of those historic monument signs? No |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1603 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 9:33 pm: |      |
was the military or any part of the military mentioned? did the sign say that only certain people or vehicles were allowed to pass this point? authorised vehicles? authorised personnel? |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 139 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, August 18, 2011 - 11:44 pm: |      |
was the military or any part of the military mentioned? Yes, but could be misleading. did the sign say that only certain people or vehicles were allowed to pass no, but explorethis point? authorised vehicles? authorised personnel? yes to both. You are OTRT. Keep exploring! |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1606 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2011 - 8:49 am: |      |
I was thinking "military personnel only. unauthorised personnel report to.." |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 142 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2011 - 7:30 pm: |      |
I was thinking "military personnel only.This is OTRT, but the connection with the military is not direct. unauthorised personnel report to.. irr |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 4196 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 11:49 am: |      |
NASA involved? Aerospace? Does it say anything about what unauthorized personnel or vehicles are supposed to do? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1643 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 12:50 pm: |      |
"top secret missile site"? I would have loved that! |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 152 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Monday, August 22, 2011 - 4:56 pm: |      |
NASA involved? Aerospace? No to both Does it say anything about what unauthorized personnel or vehicles are supposed to do?Says what authorized vehicles are supposed to do. "top secret missile site"? I would have loved that! Nothing secret involved, sorry! |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 4240 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 2:30 pm: |      |
Does it seem like authorized vehicles are supposed to do something contradictory? Are they instructed to: go somewhere? Do something? Are unauthorized vehicles left to wonder what to do? |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 164 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, August 25, 2011 - 3:57 pm: |      |
Does it seem like authorized vehicles are supposed to do something contradictory?Yes! Are they instructed to: go somewhere? Do something?this Are unauthorized vehicles left to wonder what to do? Unauthorized vehicles - or their drivers - would know that they were not allowed to do something. The drivers of authorized vehicles might be confused, if they took the sign literally. You are OTRT. |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 4264 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 7:41 am: |      |
Are the authorized vehicles supposed to: stop? Wait for something? Do something only a person can do? But a vehicle can't? "Authorized vehicles must speak to the guard on duty" or something like that? |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 186 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 2:03 pm: |      |
Are the authorized vehicles supposed to: stop? Wait for something?No to both Do something only a person can do? But a vehicle can't? "Authorized vehicles must speak to the guard on duty" or something like that? Ha! Good idea, but no. The message is addressed to drivers, allowing them to do something with their cars that unauthorized drivers can't. |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1718 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 3:35 pm: |      |
ooh - what about "Authorised vehicles drive through the barrier"? which would be daft if taken literally. |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 189 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 30, 2011 - 11:46 pm: |      |
ooh - what about "Authorised vehicles drive through the barrier"? which would be daft if taken literally. That's not it, but you're getting warmer. It allows authorized drivers to do something with their vehicles which could be taken two ways, and either way struck me as pretty daft! |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 4294 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 6:18 am: |      |
Would doing it the first way mean: damaging the vehicle? Getting it stuck? Getting lost? Damaging something else? Injury to anyone? Waste of time? Waste of gas? Same questions for the second way. |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 198 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 5:15 pm: |      |
Would doing it the first way mean: damaging the vehicle? Getting it stuck? Getting lost? Damaging something else? Injury to anyone? Waste of time? Waste of gas? Doing it what I am calling the first way would be simply impossible, so no to all. Same questions for the second way. No to all, in that the car/driver would not be affected, except in a positive way. However, others would be inconvenienced. HINT: Where would one be likely to be, to see such a sign? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1744 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 8:29 pm: |      |
would you be outside a military base? |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 202 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, September 01, 2011 - 11:29 pm: |      |
would you be outsideyes a military base?No. It was outside a clinic. I suppose it could be outside another type of facility, but that is where I saw it. |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1752 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Friday, September 02, 2011 - 1:37 pm: |      |
at a gate? a door? the entrance to a driveway? a security barrier? a little kiosk with a guard inside? |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 208 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Friday, September 02, 2011 - 6:39 pm: |      |
at a gate? a door? the entrance to a driveway? This is closest - a parking lot. The sign restricted parking for most people, but allowed it for some. a security barrier? a little kiosk with a guard inside? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1774 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 - 9:43 am: |      |
does the sign give them instructions about parking? which way to go? not obstructing something? |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 220 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 - 3:33 pm: |      |
does the sign give them instructions about parking? yes which way to go? not obstructing something? no to these. Basically, it said "Space resesrved for so-and-sos." |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1785 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 - 8:38 pm: |      |
does so-and-so describe a type of person? a type of vehicle? medical staff? disabled? veterans? officers? disabled vehicles? that's a bit of an oxymoron |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 228 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Monday, September 05, 2011 - 8:56 pm: |      |
does so-and-so describe a type of person?Yes! a type of vehicle? medical staff? Yes; explore. disabled? veterans? officers? disabled vehicles? that's a bit of an oxymoron |
Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin
Post Number: 14701 Registered: 4-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 2:47 am: |      |
"Space reserved for (X staff)"? Implying that the cars were the staff members? |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 233 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 4:12 am: |      |
"Space reserved for (X staff)"? Yes Implying that the cars were the staff members?No. The sign read "This space reserved for ______ employees." It was the word in the blank that I found confusing. |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1793 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 8:48 am: |      |
theatre employees? nursing employees? |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 235 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 3:08 pm: |      |
theatre employees? nursing employees?N.R. Could be in any department. |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 4327 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 5:07 pm: |      |
government employees? soli kitteh'z employees? employees who haz cheezburgur? ;) |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1802 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 5:53 pm: |      |
NASA? that would be brilliant! |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 237 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 9:27 pm: |      |
government employees?As employees of the hospital, they are government employees - it's a VA hospital. However, not all employees of the hospital may use these parking spaces, and they are not in any particular department. soli kitteh'z employees? employees who haz cheezburgur? ;) NASA? that would be brilliant!No, irr. |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 238 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 06, 2011 - 9:29 pm: |      |
Correction: It was a clinic, not a hospital, but same answers apply. |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1806 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 07, 2011 - 9:45 am: |      |
grumble. I still like the idea of the NASA employees getting all the spaces |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 245 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 1:08 pm: |      |
Clarification and Hint: The word in the blank refers, not to a type of employee (nurses, etc) but to a condition of employees. It is not connected with a physical or mental disability. |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1834 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 6:37 pm: |      |
retired? married? part-time? |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 248 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 7:56 pm: |      |
retired? married? part-time? No to all. More a temporary condition. |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1836 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2011 - 12:01 am: |      |
sick? |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 249 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, September 11, 2011 - 1:58 am: |      |
sick? no - you wouldn't want health care providers to come to work sick, would you? =) |
Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk
Post Number: 4361 Registered: 9-2009
| | Posted on Monday, September 12, 2011 - 1:10 pm: |      |
Late? some other time-related condition? |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1844 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Monday, September 12, 2011 - 1:50 pm: |      |
pregnant? part-time? shift-workers? on duty? night duty? |
Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare
Post Number: 250 Registered: 7-2011
| | Posted on Monday, September 12, 2011 - 4:57 pm: |      |
pregnant? part-time? shift-workers? on duty? night duty? see below Late?YES some other time-related condition? Galfisk has it! ***********SPOILER***************** The sign read: "This space reserved for late employees of the VA clinic." Now if late = deceased, why do they need a parking space? And if late = tardy, why are they being REWARDED with a parking space? Seems to me that would just encourage people to come in late. Thanks to all who stuck with it! |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin
Post Number: 4338 Registered: 9-2010
| | Posted on Monday, September 12, 2011 - 9:31 pm: |      |
I iz had hard time with thiz wun...wuz confuseded kitteh! but Galfisk got it! iz awesum puzzel solvin Galfisk, and awesum puzzel soli kitteh! can haz cheezburgur =) |
Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez
Post Number: 1845 Registered: 2-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 - 12:22 am: |      |
tee hee |