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First they cursed the devil, then they praised it.
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Is 'it' the devil or some item, yet to be discovered? Or is 'it' a situation?
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Is 'it' the devil This. or some item, yet to be discovered? Or is 'it' a situation?
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They = Male? Female? Adults? Children?

Do they have any of the following in common:
Where they live?
Job?
Nationality?
A belief?
Education?
Hobby?
A role, such as being parents, elected officials?
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Is the devil in this puzzle the counterpart of God?
Or is it a tangible object?
Is it the nickname of something/somebody?
Were "they" in a situation that could be described as a "blessing in disguise"?
Like, they first were unlucky, but their misfortune later turned into something good?

If they had been misfortunate, did it involve
...an accident?
...(a) person(s) being injured?
...an illness?
...the death of (a) person(s)?
...the destruction of something?
...the loss of something?
...the loss of money?
...anything weather-related?

They:
>= 10 persons?
>= 100 persons?
>= 1000 persons?
>= 10000 persons?
>= 100000 persons?
>= 1000000 persons?
more?
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They = Male? Female? Adults? Children? All of these.

Do they have any of the following in common:
Where they live? This.
Job?
Nationality? This.
A belief? This, of sorts (but not religion).
Education?
Hobby?
A role, such as being parents, elected officials?

Is the devil in this puzzle the counterpart of God? No.
Or is it a tangible object?
Is it the nickname of something/somebody? Yes.
Were "they" in a situation that could be described as a "blessing in disguise"? Maybe -- I wouldn't say so, but it's arguable.
Like, they first were unlucky, but their misfortune later turned into something good? A little.

If they had been misfortunate, did it involve
...an accident?
...(a) person(s) being injured?
...an illness?
...the death of (a) person(s)?
...the destruction of something? This.
...the loss of something? And this.
...the loss of money?
...anything weather-related?

They:
>= 10 persons?
>= 100 persons? A couple hundred at most.
>= 1000 persons?
>= 10000 persons?
>= 100000 persons?
>= 1000000 persons?
more?
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is this a true story? FYOI? FSEI?

did it happen this century? before? LTPF list of centuries?

is a natural disaster relevant?

did they lose their property? their homes? their town? their country?

is the devil a natural phenomenon? an animal?
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is this a true story? Unknown for certain, but not impossible. FYOI? FSEI?

did it happen this century? before? LTPF list of centuries? Somewhere between the Middle Ages and the Enlightenment - say 1300 to 1700.

is a natural disaster relevant? No.

did they lose their property? their homes? their town? Effectively this. their country?

is the devil a natural phenomenon? an animal? Neither.
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a plague?
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a plague? No.
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Is the devil an opposing army? A hostile country? A rival town? The local government? Is it an administrative decision involved?
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Is the devil an opposing army? A hostile country? A rival town? The local government? Is it an administrative decision involved? None of these.
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were they living in some kind of ignorance and when some knowledge or innovation arrived they were unhappy about it?
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were they living in some kind of ignorance and when some knowledge or innovation arrived they were unhappy about it? No.
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Is the devil a specific person? A specific item?
Did they lose their town because: it was destroyed? they had to move away, but the town stayed intact?
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Is the devil a weather phenomena?
A plant?
An animal?
An astronomical phenomena?
A person?
A group of peoples?

Is agriculture relevant?
Animal raising/herding?
Food production relevant?
Is a specific country relevant?
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Is "Devil" the name of a person? Or a meaning of the name?

They "effectively" lost their town - were they forced to live elsewhere? Were any buildings destroyed? Was the town reduced to a village? Did property change hands with the result the town was no longer theirs?

Were many of them farmers? Artisans? Merchants? Noblemen? All of them?
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Is the devil a specific person? A specific item? Thisish.
Did they lose their town because: it was destroyed? Parts of it. they had to move away, Temporarily. but the town stayed intact? Most of it, we can assume.

Is the devil a weather phenomena?
A plant?
An animal?
An astronomical phenomena?
A person?
A group of peoples? None of these.

Is agriculture relevant? Slightly.
Animal raising/herding? No.
Food production relevant? Yesish.
Is a specific country relevant? Yes.

Is "Devil" the name of a person? Or a meaning of the name? Neither.

They "effectively" lost their town - were they forced to live elsewhere? No. Were any buildings destroyed? Possibly. Was the town reduced to a village? No. Did property change hands with the result the town was no longer theirs? Temporarily.

Were many of them farmers? Artisans? Merchants? Noblemen? Not this. All of them? But yes to the others.
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was the devil a machine?

an accident? like pollution?
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was the devil a machine?

an accident? like pollution? None of these.
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The relevant country: was it in Europe? Asia? The Americas? Africa? Australia?
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is the devil a tangible object? animal? vegetable? mineral? a combination of these?

something intangible?

something abstract?
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did other communities come into contact with this devil? if so, did it have the same effect on them?
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was it a disease?
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The relevant country: was it in Europe? This, though it could have happened just about anywhere. Asia? The Americas? Africa? Australia?

is the devil a tangible object? Yes, but used in a general sense. animal? vegetable? This. mineral? a combination of these?

something intangible? No.

something abstract? No.

did other communities come into contact with this devil? Yes. if so, did it have the same effect on them? Occasionally.

was it a disease? No, but...
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was it something which caused disease?

was it something that affected the crops?

was it something like fermentation? which spolied their produce but then they found it had produced alcohol?

or a mould on a cheese which turned out to be tasty? like Roquefort?
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Wine producing relevant?
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was it something which caused disease? Depending on your definition of disease.

was it something that affected the crops? No.

was it something like fermentation? which spolied their produce but then they found it had produced alcohol?

or a mould on a cheese which turned out to be tasty? like Roquefort? Either of these could actually serve as the answer, but I am looking for something much more specific.

Wine producing relevant? No, but very close.
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Is the devil simply alcohol?
The increased usage of alcohol as fuel relevant?
Alcohol taxation relevant?
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Is the devil simply alcohol? Yes.
The increased usage of alcohol as fuel relevant? No.
Alcohol taxation relevant? Mildly.
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so did this particular town become famous for producing alcohol?

is it somewhere in France?

is it a very specific drink? like Benedictine?

were they monks?

come to think of it, in Spain all the dessert wines are named after towns - Toledo, Malaga, Valencia..

is it a wine or a spirit? or beer?
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so did this particular town become famous for producing alcohol?

is it somewhere in France?

is it a very specific drink? Generally. like Benedictine?

were they monks?

come to think of it, in Spain all the dessert wines are named after towns - Toledo, Malaga, Valencia..

is it a wine or a spirit? or beer? No to the rest.
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Is Greece relevant?
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Were parts of the town destroyed? by fire? or flood?
If so, was it a deliberate act by one or more humans?
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Is Greece relevant? No.

Were parts of the town destroyed? Possibly. by fire? or flood? Irr.
If so, was it a deliberate act by one or more humans? Yes.
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Was there an explosion? Did the alcohol explode? Was the alcohol set in fire?
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Was there an explosion? Did the alcohol explode? Was the alcohol set in fire? No to all.
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They lost thier town because of alcohol, yes?
Because of someone or more than one someone drinking?
Because of how the alcohol was stored?
BEcause of production of the alcohol?

The specific kind of alcohol is relevant, yes?
Did we determine if country is relevant?
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How about viticulture - the culture of grapes?

And would the story here work as a Twilight Zone episode?
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Jenburdoo, are we talking about kegs of beer, wine, whatever, which washed ashore by the winds and waves to the western bits of Ireland and Scotland? There IS a movie about that. Happiest Little Village, or something similar. The title is on the tip of my tongue...

A happy aarrr to you from an Irish American.
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whisky galore?
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They lost thier town because of alcohol, yes? No.
Because of someone or more than one someone drinking?
Because of how the alcohol was stored?
BEcause of production of the alcohol?

The specific kind of alcohol is relevant, yes? Yes.
Did we determine if country is relevant? Don't remember, but it is.

How about viticulture - the culture of grapes? No.

And would the story here work as a Twilight Zone episode? There's nothing supernatural about it, but it is a little creepy.

Jenburdoo, are we talking about kegs of beer, wine, whatever, which washed ashore by the winds and waves to the western bits of Ireland and Scotland? There IS a movie about that. Happiest Little Village, or something similar. The title is on the tip of my tongue... Nope. The movie sounds good, I'll look it up.

whisky galore? Aye, the auld water of life it is.
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did they nearly lose their town because of the behaviour of people when drunk? for economic reasons?

is the releveant alcohol a spirit? a liqueur? a beer or ale?
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did they nearly lose their town because of the behaviour of people when drunk? No. for economic reasons? No.

is the releveant alcohol a spirit? a liqueur? a beer or ale? As noted above, it's whiskey.
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European country:
England?
Ireland?
Scotland?
Spain?
France?
Portugal?

To clarify, the "devil" is whiskey, yes?
And the devil in some way caused them to lose thier town?
Were they "cursing" it because of this loss of their town?
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European country:
England?
Ireland?
Scotland? This.
Spain?
France?
Portugal?

To clarify, the "devil" is whiskey, yes? Yes.
And the devil in some way caused them to lose thier town? No.
Were they "cursing" it because of this loss of their town? No.
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so is the "devil" scotch, particularly? (the people are Scots, their whiskey is scotch =) )
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so is the "devil" scotch, particularly? (the people are Scots, their whiskey is scotch =) ) I suppose, but precisely what it's called is irrelevant.
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Just a tip: this puzzle is (yet again) based on a folk song.
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it's not "Whiskey in the Jar" is it? sorry, that's all I can think of at 12:30 in the morning (and I'm not even sure if that's a folk song, or not)
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Did they have to leave (to give up?) their town because of the production of whisky? because of the consumption of whisky? were they defeated by an enemy? because they were too drunk to fight?

Did they later benefit from making whisky? from selling it?
Did the whisky making attract tourists to this town?
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it's not "Whiskey in the Jar" is it? No. sorry, that's all I can think of at 12:30 in the morning (and I'm not even sure if that's a folk song, or not)

Did they have to leave (to give up?) their town because of the production of whisky? because of the consumption of whisky? were they defeated by an enemy? Yes.because they were too drunk to fight?

Did they later benefit from making whisky? Yes. from selling it?
Did the whisky making attract tourists to this town? No to the rest.
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was it a battle against the English? the Vikings?

William Wallace relevant? Robert the Bruce? Berwick?
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Posted on Friday, August 05, 2011 - 6:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

I LOVE "because they were too drunk to fight?"

"Whiskey, you're the devil, you're leadin' me astray / Over hills and mountains and to Americay ..."

And, to be fair to Kaylee Kitteh, the chorus has the line, "There's whiskey in the jar."

During the 90s I was married to a wonderful Dubliner who plays and sings Irish music and songs. My Paddy Kelleghan would probably have solved this in an instant. Still love the guy!

Fiona
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Posted on Thursday, August 11, 2011 - 7:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is Scotland's war of independence relevant?
Does whiskey refer to James Douglas?
Was he devil?
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was it a battle against the English? Could be English or Scots, irrelevant which. the Vikings?

William Wallace relevant? Robert the Bruce? Berwick? No to all.

Is Scotland's war of independence relevant?
Does whiskey refer to James Douglas?
Was he devil? No to all.
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Did they curse whisky, the drink? Or did they curse someone or something that was called "whisky"?
Later they praised whisky the drink, correct?
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Did they curse whisky, the drink? Yes. Or did they curse someone or something that was called "whisky"?
Later they praised whisky the drink, correct? Yes.
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Did whisky cause their defeat? If so, because: they drunk it? Someone else drunk it? It caught fire? Exploded? It was destroyed? Because it was valuable?
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Did whisky cause their defeat? No. If so, because: they drunk it? Someone else drunk it? It caught fire? Exploded? It was destroyed? Because it was valuable?
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To clarify, were the Scots the ones to curse the devil (whiskey)? Or the enemy?

Order of events:
Was the devil cursed before the defeat? After?
Did anything relevant occur after the devil was praised?
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To clarify, were the Scots the ones to curse the devil (whiskey)? Yes. Or the enemy? No.

Order of events:
Was the devil cursed before the defeat? Yes. After? No.
Did anything relevant occur after the devil was praised? No.
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Was the devil praised before the defeat? Did they praise the devil as a result of the defeat? Did whiskey play a direct role in the outcome of the battle? Did anyone get drunk during this puzzle? If yes, did this person ordinarily get drunk?
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Was the devil praised before the defeat? No. Did they praise the devil as a result of the defeat? Not immediately. Did whiskey play a direct role in the outcome of the battle? \b[Yes.} Did anyone get drunk during this puzzle? Yes. If yes, did this person ordinarily get drunk? Irr.
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The drunk person- on the side of the victors? The defeated? Both?
Did the drinking take place at a victory celebration?
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The drunk person- on the side of the victors? This. The defeated? Both?
Did the drinking take place at a victory celebration? Yes.
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Did all/most of the victors get drunk? Or just one?
Did the victors do something foolish after drinking so much?
Did they pass out?
Were the defeated able to conquer the victors after the victors got drunk?
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Did all/most of the victors get drunk? Yes. Or just one?
Did the victors do something foolish after drinking so much? Yes.
Did they pass out? Yes.
Were the defeated able to conquer the victors after the victors got drunk? Yes.

****SPOILER****

This is said to have occurred near Glasgow, Scotland. It's a modern song written by Alan Reid. "jaud" is a term for a "loose woman," and uisge beatha is the Scots word for whiskey.

Chorus:
Whisky is a devil jaud that burns the brains of man
He'll dance or stagger, sing or fight, he'll argue black and blue is white
The fairmer's wife, the widow and the weary working man
They fill the air with curses on that devil, uisge beatha

He watches for the gauger man that prowls the countryside
He hides his liquid treasure, then waits for night and rides
O'er the Torrance burn tae Glesca where there's plenty that will buy her
She's that sweet forbidden devil uisge beatha

A band of wild marauders in the colours of Colquhoun
Were camped above the Campsie Moors above the Lennoxtoon
The folk below were soon to know they were Clan Gregor men
When they came sweeping doon the Campsie Glen

They scattered a' before them, a' the weemin and the bairns
They chased the fairming workers and the fairmers tae their hames
They gathered up the cattle and they camped aside the hill
And there they found the hidden whisky still

The Campsie men assembled then tae see what could be done
But shepherd lads and cottars cannae match a hieland band
They cursed the thieving reivers and their heathen hieland cries
As they drank their fill aneath the evening skies

Whisky is a devil jaud that burns the brains o' men
For in the night the hieland men fell drunk upon the ground
The Campsie men crept up to them and slew them as they lay
And a' was back in order by the day

There's stills above the clachan, there's stills aroond the fells
There's stills aboot the countryside nae gaugerman can smell
But the one that snared the Gregor was mair valuable than ten
Tae the honest fairmers o' the Campsie Glen

Last chorus:
Whisky is a devil jaud that burns the brains of man
He'll dance or stagger, sing or fight, he'll argue black and blue is white
The fairmer's wife, the widow and the weary working man
They fill the air with blessings on that devil uisge beatha

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