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Reluctantq (Reluctantq)
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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 12:18 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

It used to be illegal to obtain what I'm thinking of without first purchasing a license. Nowadays, it's common and usually legal to obtain it without a license, even though the same licenses are still sold. On the other side of the coin, whereas penalties for stealing this thing were often much more lax for license holders than for non-license holders, today's license holders might be punished at the same level as a non-license holder. Explain.
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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 2:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Is it a license to purchase something? Sell Something? do something?
If the last,fishing? hunting? other sport?
Reluctantq (Reluctantq)
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Is it a license to purchase something? Sell Something? do something? no to purchase or sell, yes to do
If the last,fishing? hunting? other sport? none
Balin (Balin)
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Does the license allow you to go somewhere?
Reluctantq (Reluctantq)
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Does the license allow you to go somewhere? no
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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 7:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Stealing this thing = do it without a license?

It used to be = ten years ago? 20? 30? 100? 1000?

Is the license issued by the town hall? The government? Relevant?

Location relevant?
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is it a licence to provide a service? get paid for providing a service?

like counselling? physical therapy? medecine? real estate?
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 2:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

Getting married?
Reluctantq (Reluctantq)
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Stealing this thing = do it without a license? no

It used to be = ten years ago? no 20? no 30? no 100? yes 1000? yes

Is the license issued by the town hall? no The government? yes Relevant? yes

Location relevant? no

is it a licence to provide a service? no get paid for providing a service? no

Getting married? yes
Balin (Balin)
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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 6:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So it's a marriage license, then?

Punishments for stealing it would be harsher today for license-holders...bigamy relevant?
Enjay (Enjay)
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Posted on Saturday, September 10, 2011 - 6:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

By stealing the thing, do you mean forcing someone to get married? Eloping?
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Common law marriages relevant? Religious vs. secular marriages? Gay marriage? Bigamy? Polyandry? Rape? Marital rape? Sex at all?
Reluctantq (Reluctantq)
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So it's a marriage license, then? yes

Punishments for stealing it would be harsher today for license-holders...bigamy relevant? no

By stealing the thing, do you mean forcing someone to get married? Eloping? neither

Common law marriages relevant? no Religious vs. secular marriages? no Gay marriage? no Bigamy? no Polyandry? no Rape? yes Marital rape? yes Sex at all? yes
Balin (Balin)
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Would people steal a marriage license for the purpose of sex/rape? And with a license the offender wouldn't receive as harsh a punishment? But now that marital rape is considered the same as nonmarital rape, the punishment would be the same?
Reluctantq (Reluctantq)
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Would people steal a marriage license for the purpose of sex/rape? no And with a license the offender wouldn't receive as harsh a punishment? on the right track ... But now that marital rape is considered the same as nonmarital rape, the punishment would be the same? also ort
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Is 'what you're thinking of' (the thing with penalties for stealing it) marriage itself? Marital sex? Just sex? Is it relevant that pre-marital sex is more acceptable today than it once was?
Reluctantq (Reluctantq)
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Is 'what you're thinking of' (the thing with penalties for stealing it) marriage itself? Marital sex?this Just sex? Is it relevant that pre-marital sex is more acceptable today than it once was? no
Reluctantq (Reluctantq)
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Revision [DISREGARD PREVIOUS POST]:

Is 'what you're thinking of' (the thing with penalties for stealing it) marriage itself? no Marital sex? yes Just sex? and yes Is it relevant that pre-marital sex is more acceptable today than it once was? yes
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Posted on Monday, September 12, 2011 - 5:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So the license required is a marriage license. In previous times, this license was required for sexual intercourse. To "steal" sex is known as "rape". In previous times, people were not punished as harshly for marital rape as they were for extramarital rape, but today, one could be punished harshly for rape of any type. Is this correct?
Balin (Balin)
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Add to Ciaobella's summary: "It is much more common today to obtain it without a license" -- because premarital sex is practically the norm. Correct?
Reluctantq (Reluctantq)
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Posted on Monday, September 12, 2011 - 8:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

So the license required is a marriage license. In previous times, this license was required for sexual intercourse. To "steal" sex is known as "rape". In previous times, people were not punished as harshly for marital rape as they were for extramarital rape, but today, one could be punished harshly for rape of any type. Is this correct? yes

Add to Ciaobella's summary: "It is much more common today to obtain it without a license" -- because premarital sex is practically the norm. Correct? yes

Spoiler:

I'm thinking about sex. It was often illegal to have sex outside of marriage in older times (and still technically is in some U.S. states), but today premarital sex is common. However, penalties for marital rape, which was usually not even prosecuted, have greatly increased.

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