| Author | Message | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 1 Registered: 9-2011 |
(New here- hi everyone!) How did you get up there? More importantly, how do you expect to stay up there long enough to get back down again? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14860 Registered: 4-2010 |
Hi, and welcome to the forum! Is the question being asked? To "you"? Are both "you"s referring to the same thing/person/being? Is "you" H? A? M? (human-adult-male) Up: in a tree? A tower? A mini-golf windmill? | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 2 Registered: 9-2011 |
Is the question being asked? Rhetorically, I guess, but not directly To "you"? yes Are both "you"s referring to the same thing/person/being? yes Is "you" H? no A? ish M? gender unknown and irrelevant (human-adult-male) Up: in a tree? A tower? A mini-golf windmill? None of those, though now I have the strangest urge to mini-golf | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 698 Registered: 6-2009 |
Welcome! Is the "you" a cat? Or other mammal? Insect? Fish? Bird? Other? Is the person speaking to him his owner? Is the place "there" higher than a car? a streetlamp? a tall tree? a skyscraper? Is it moving? | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 8 Registered: 9-2011 |
*waves to everyone* Is the "you" a cat? sadly no Or other mammal? Insect? this- several, actually, but it could work equally well with just one Fish? Bird? Other? Is the person speaking to him his owner? it's me, and I own the thing they're on, so kind of? Is the place "there" higher than a car? between this a streetlamp? and this a tall tree? a skyscraper? Is it moving? no | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1954 Registered: 12-2010 |
The relevant insects - bees? wasps? hornets? beetles? butterflies? moths? grasshoppers? flies? mosquitos? | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 9 Registered: 9-2011 |
The relevant insects - bees? wasps? hornets? beetles? butterflies? moths? this grasshoppers? flies? mosquitos? | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1955 Registered: 12-2010 |
Oh by the way, welcome to the LTPF (: Were they attracted to some kind of light? | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 10 Registered: 9-2011 |
Were they attracted to some kind of light? I suppose, but not necessarily CLARIFICATION: I said "adult-ish" for the HAM question because I wasn't sure if terms like "adult" were applicable to the moth lifecycle. That answer should probably be a "no" instead, just to avoid being misleading. | ||
| Doriana (Doriana)
New member Username: Doriana Post Number: 1956 Registered: 12-2010 |
Were they still in their cocoons? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1931 Registered: 2-2011 |
are they on top of a vehicle? a building? a tent? a caravan? a temporary structure? are they in the form of pupae? chryslalises? are you wondering whether they will be able to stay there long enough to emerge and fly down? | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 13 Registered: 9-2011 |
Were they still in their cocoons? yes, relevant are they on top of a vehicle? a building? yope, but beware of FA a tent? a caravan? a temporary structure? are they in the form of pupae? chryslalises? aren't those the same thing? are you wondering whether they will be able to stay there long enough to emerge and fly down? DINGDINGDING! Now explore "up there" and why I'd be doubtful of their staying power | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14864 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are they actually on top of some structure or object? Are they attached to the top, but not actually on it? Are the cocoons in danger of falling? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14865 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are the cocoons inside? On a ceiling? | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 14 Registered: 9-2011 |
Were they still in their cocoons? yes, relevant are they on top of a vehicle? a building? yope, but beware of FA a tent? a caravan? a temporary structure? are they in the form of pupae? chryslalises? aren't those the same thing? are you wondering whether they will be able to stay there long enough to emerge and fly down? DINGDINGDING! Now explore "up there" and why I'd be doubtful of their staying power | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 15 Registered: 9-2011 |
Gah! Curse you, refresh button! | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 16 Registered: 9-2011 |
Are they actually on top of some structure or object? not really Are they attached to the top, but not actually on it? no Are the cocoons in danger of falling? no Are the cocoons inside? On a ceiling? yes! | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14871 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are they near something that could knock them down easily? A ceiling fan? | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 18 Registered: 9-2011 |
Are they near something that could knock them down easily? A ceiling fan? no- the cocoons themselves are fine | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14886 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is it relevant how long the cocoons have been there? | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 20 Registered: 9-2011 |
Is it relevant how long the cocoons have been there? yesish, definitely OTRT | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14896 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the size of the cocoons relevant? The number of them? Is it relevant what building the ceiling and cocoons are in? What room? | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 21 Registered: 9-2011 |
Is the size of the cocoons relevant? The number of them? no Is it relevant what building the ceiling and cocoons are in? What room? no, only that they're on the ceiling | ||
| Peter365 (Peter365)
New member Username: Peter365 Post Number: 3624 Registered: 1-2007 |
Are there spiders webs surrounding them? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 711 Registered: 6-2009 |
Are there anything else around them? Under them? Are they in danger of being harmed? When they emerge as moths will their movement be restricted? | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 23 Registered: 9-2011 |
Are there spiders webs surrounding them? no Are there anything else around them? Under them? no- OTRT, explore Are they in danger of being harmed? not up there, no When they emerge as moths will their movement be restricted? no, and beware of FA It may help to mention that these are pests. | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 14941 Registered: 4-2010 |
Do you want to get rid of them? | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 722 Registered: 6-2009 |
Is there something above them (apart from the ceiling?) Or is there anything else in the room that would be relevant to this puzzle? Is there a lightbulb in the room? Relevant? | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 24 Registered: 9-2011 |
Do you want to get rid of them? yes Is there something above them (apart from the ceiling?)no Or is there anything else in the room that would be relevant to this puzzle? yes Is there a lightbulb in the room? yes Relevant? no | ||
| Bodo (Bodo)
New member Username: Bodo Post Number: 2627 Registered: 2-2001 |
Furnishings (furniture, rugs/carpet etc.) relevant? Potential damage to said furnishings from the moths relevant? If so, will you take proactive actions to prevent them from inflicting damage? | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 25 Registered: 9-2011 |
Furnishings (furniture, rugs/carpet etc.) relevant? no Potential damage to said furnishings from the moths relevant? so nope If so, will you take proactive actions to prevent them from inflicting damage? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15009 Registered: 4-2010 |
Is the height of the ceiling relevant? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 1983 Registered: 2-2011 |
accessibility relevant? is the room being decorated? | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 26 Registered: 9-2011 |
If so, will you take proactive actions to prevent them from inflicting damage? I'd like to... Is the height of the ceiling relevant? yes accessibility relevant? of the ceiling? yes is the room being decorated? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15046 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are they in a room that will render them unable to cause damage, as much as they'd like to? Is the room hard to access? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2005 Registered: 2-2011 |
is the ceiling particularly high? particularly low? | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 339 Registered: 7-2011 |
Do you have a good reason to hesitate to reach to, or disturb, or remove the moth or moths? Um, off the top of my head, there is a pet giraffe which no one wants to move. That sort of reason? Is there a commercial reason, such as your neighbor wants to try a moth spray that ... no, that doesn't sound sensible even to me. Cheers! | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 27 Registered: 9-2011 |
Are they in a room that will render them unable to cause damage, as much as they'd like to? Is the room hard to access? no to both is the ceiling particularly high? maybe not unusually high but too high to reach, plus the larvae like to hide in corners where I can't hit them with the electric fly swatter even if I could reach that high particularly low? so no Do you have a good reason to hesitate to reach to, or disturb, or remove the moth or moths? no Um, off the top of my head, there is a pet giraffe which no one wants to move. That sort of reason? Sadly, nothing that fun | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 28 Registered: 9-2011 |
Dropping a hint to get things moving again: You've been focusing on the cocoons themselves- what's more important is what's inside the cocoons. | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2071 Registered: 2-2011 |
is the name of the moth relevant? ceiling moths? clothes moths? | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 29 Registered: 9-2011 |
is the name of the moth relevant? no ceiling moths? clothes moths? it's neither of those, as far as I know | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4462 Registered: 9-2009 |
Will the moths emerge from the cocoons? If so, will they be trapped? Will they fall down? Blow away? Die? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4479 Registered: 9-2010 |
Luna moths? (Lunar moths? =) lol ) | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 31 Registered: 9-2011 |
Will the moths emerge from the cocoons? No, and you're almost there! If so, will they be trapped? Will they fall down? Blow away? Die? | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15176 Registered: 4-2010 |
Are the cocoons in such an area where the moths will never emerge? Are both ends stuck to something? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2110 Registered: 2-2011 |
will they be knocked down before they can emerge? cleaned away? | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 32 Registered: 9-2011 |
Are the cocoons in such an area where the moths will never emerge? Are both ends stuck to something? none of these will they be knocked down before they can emerge? cleaned away? nor these | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2115 Registered: 2-2011 |
will they be shaken loose? will something eat them? the something relevant in the room - is it animate? bats? is it an object which moves? | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 38 Registered: 9-2011 |
will they be shaken loose? will something eat them? none of these the something relevant in the room - is it animate? no bats? is it an object which moves? no | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4486 Registered: 9-2009 |
Will they die inside the cocoons? Will the cocoons be destroyed? Moved? Sealed in? Poisoned? Set on fire? | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4492 Registered: 9-2010 |
you missed my questions at October 5, 11:39 pm forum time =( | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 40 Registered: 9-2011 |
Eep! Sorry! Luna moths? (Lunar moths? =) lol ) unfortunately no- that would be way more fun Will they die inside the cocoons? yes! Will the cocoons be destroyed? Moved? Sealed in? Poisoned? Set on fire? but for none of these reasons | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2119 Registered: 2-2011 |
will they be killed by smoke? gas? vapour? temperature change? | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 44 Registered: 9-2011 |
will they be killed by smoke? gas? vapour? temperature change? none of these | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2133 Registered: 2-2011 |
will they be killed by water dripping through the ceiling? condensation? | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 46 Registered: 9-2011 |
will they be killed by water dripping through the ceiling? condensation? neither- think more passive | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4504 Registered: 9-2009 |
Will the cocoons themselves be damaged? Will the insects be physically damaged (ie. squished, punctured, etc)? will they die before they're ready to emerge? Will they try to emerge, but be unable to? Will they die from: lack of oxygen? Starvation? Lack of some other substance? Too much of some substance? From an object? From something living? Something in the air? | ||
| Tardigradeparty (Tardigradeparty)
New member Username: Tardigradeparty Post Number: 51 Registered: 9-2011 |
Will the cocoons themselves be damaged? Will the insects be physically damaged (ie. squished, punctured, etc)? will they die before they're ready to emerge? /b{this, because of...} Will they try to emerge, but be unable to? Will they die from: lack of oxygen? Starvation? this! Lack of some other substance? Too much of some substance? From an object? From something living? Something in the air? You've got it- here comes the ----------------SPOILER---------------- I came back from my time off this August to find my dry goods had been colonized by some kind of destructive moth. I threw out a lot of food and went at every moth I could find with my electric fly swatter, but there was always one or two that I missed to start a new buggy generation. After a couple months of this and several moth life cycles, a funny sort of natural selection seems to have happened, where the only moths to survive are the ones inexorably drawn to high places where I can't reach. This instinct has gotten so strong that now larvae are so strongly driven to climb that they don't build up a sufficient fat reserve from my food (and those that venture down get thwacked), so they seal their cocoons and then just wither away inside, never to emerge. And this is what happens when you eat through my favorite shirts. | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4583 Registered: 9-2010 |
lol! poor moths...but at least now they shall not get your cheezburgur. Or shirts. =) | ||
| Quovynyte (Quovynyte)
New member Username: Quovynyte Post Number: 799 Registered: 6-2009 |
Nice puzzle! Sorry about your moths problem! |
