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Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
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Posted on Friday, September 23, 2011 - 9:56 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only)

An oddly-colored tablecloth and a metal cylinder once meant danger for their owner. Why?
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was the tablecloth a single colour? multi-coloured? a geometric design? abstract?

was the metal cylinder a tin can? a container?
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Was the cylinder resting on the tablecloth?
Was the tablecloth covering the cylinder?
Were they intentionally placed somewhere as a signal of danger to the owner?
Were they themselves the cause of the danger?
Was the tablecloth stained? with the contents of the cylinder?
Was the owner guilty of treason? Did the tablecloth and cylinder reveal this fact?
Was the owner H/A/M?
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Is the cylinder a gas tank?
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was the tablecloth a single colour? multi-coloured? This. a geometric design? abstract? Yope.

was the metal cylinder a tin can? a container? Neither.

Was the cylinder resting on the tablecloth? Yes.
Was the tablecloth covering the cylinder? No.
Were they intentionally placed somewhere as a signal of danger to the owner? No.
Were they themselves the cause of the danger? Yes.
Was the tablecloth stained? Yes. with the contents of the cylinder? No.
Was the owner guilty of treason? Yesish. Did the tablecloth and cylinder reveal this fact? Under certain circumstances.
Was the owner H/A/M? Yes.

Is the cylinder a gas tank? No.
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Did the cylinder (partly? completely?) cover the stain?
Relevant what caused the stain? Was it blood?
Did the colours of the tablecloth (partly? completely?) obscure the stain?
Relevant that the cylinder was made of metal? Relevant what metal? Did the substance that caused the stain also react with the metal?
Is the cylinder an object one would ordinarily expect to find resting on a tablecloth? such as a mug or a salt shaker?
Is it bigger than: a penny? a fist? a loaf of bread? a chair? Is it hollow? Is it a coin? Is its diameter longer than its height? shorter? about the same?
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Did the cylinder (partly? completely?) cover the stain? No.
Relevant what caused the stain? Yes. Was it blood? No.
Did the colours of the tablecloth (partly? completely?) obscure the stain? No.
Relevant that the cylinder was made of metal? Yes. Relevant what metal? Not really, assume steel. Did the substance that caused the stain also react with the metal? No.
Is the cylinder an object one would ordinarily expect to find resting on a tablecloth? IIRC, no, though I suppose it could have been a container of some sort. such as a mug or a salt shaker? But not these.
Is it bigger than: a penny? a fist? a loaf of bread? Roughly this size. a chair? Is it hollow? Irr. Is it a coin? No. Is its diameter longer than its height? shorter? This. about the same?
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was the cylinder lying on its side? standing on its end?

was there writing on the cylinder?

was there danger of an explosion? was the danger danger of death? physical harm? capture?

was this a wartime situation? were the cylinder and tablecloth evidence that something had happened?

was the tablecloth on a table?

was the stain on the tablecloth connected to the cylinder? was it ink? wine? food? rust?
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Was the cylinder standing on end? resting on its side? were it and the stained tablecloth the only two things on the table? was the table stained as well? was the table made of wood? metal? plastic?
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was the cylinder lying on its side? standing on its end? This.

was there writing on the cylinder? No.

was there danger of an explosion? No. was the danger danger of death? physical harm? capture? This, the others are possible but unlikely.

was this a wartime situation? No. were the cylinder and tablecloth evidence that something had happened? No.

was the tablecloth on a table? Yes.

was the stain on the tablecloth connected to the cylinder? Yes. was it ink? wine? food? rust? No to all.

were it and the stained tablecloth the only two things on the table? Yes. was the table stained as well? No. was the table made of wood? Assume this. metal? plastic?
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was the stain grass? paint? makeup? grease? dye? bodily fluid? tea? coffee? wax?
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was the stain grass? paint? This. makeup? grease? dye? bodily fluid? tea? coffee? wax?
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Had the cylinder been painted?
Is the size of the cylinder relevant?
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Had the cylinder been painted? No.
Is the size of the cylinder relevant? Yes. but you don't need to determine the exact dimensions.
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Was the paint stain a relevant shape?
Relevant what colour it was? Multiple colours?
Was the stain made by paint dripping onto the table cloth? Or by something resting on the tablecloth?
Did the cylinder make the stain?
Was anything else in the room (other than the cylinder and tablecloth} painted with the same colour the paint was?
"Oddly colored": Odd combination of colours? Odd pattern? Did the colours resemble something else (like a flag)?
Was the owner a painter?
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Was the paint stain a relevant shape? Yesish.
Relevant what colour it was? Yes. Multiple colours? This.
Was the stain made by paint dripping onto the table cloth? Or by something resting on the tablecloth? Neither.
Did the cylinder make the stain? No.
Was anything else in the room (other than the cylinder and tablecloth} painted with the same colour the paint was? Irr.
"Oddly colored": Odd combination of colours? Odd pattern? This. Did the colours resemble something else (like a flag)? No, but...
Was the owner a painter? No.
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Is an optical illusion relevant? A picture that has to be viewed in a certain way or from a certain angle?
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did the cloth have: red? orange? yellow? green? blue? indigo? violet/purple? black? brown? grey? white? on it?
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oh, or pink? and you said 'No, but...' to 'resemble something else (like a flag)'...did it have the colours of a flag on it?
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was it writing? had a message been painted on the tablecloth? had it been used as a banner? or a signal? say spread on the ground to be spotted by a plane?

was the cylinder a paint can?
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Is an optical illusion relevant? No. A picture that has to be viewed in a certain way or from a certain angle? Yes.

did the cloth have: red? orange? yellow? green? blue? indigo? violet/purple? black? brown? grey? white? on it? IIRC, primarily red,white and blue, with a little tan.

and you said 'No, but...' to 'resemble something else (like a flag)'...did it have the colours of a flag on it? Irr.

was it writing? No. had a message been painted on the tablecloth? No, but OTRT. had it been used as a banner? No. or a signal? No. say spread on the ground to be spotted by a plane? No.

was the cylinder a paint can? No.
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Are those 3D-dot diagrams relevant? The one where the word is written really long and skinny and you have to pretty much look flat to read it?

Was the cylinder used to read the picture?
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Are those 3D-dot diagrams relevant? The one where the word is written really long and skinny and you have to pretty much look flat to read it? No.

Was the cylinder used to read the picture? Yes.
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Is the cylinder some sort of magnifying glass? A type of lens?
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Is the cylinder some sort of magnifying glass? A type of lens? Neither.
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Is the picture distorted, so that it can only be seen with the aid of the cylinder, or it's reflection in the cylinder? (There's a name for this, but I can't at the moment recall what it is.)
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when seen in the right way, is the picture of a person?
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Is the cylinder intended to be used as a mirror? Is it used as a mirror in this case?
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Is the picture distorted, so that it can only be seen with the aid of the cylinder, or it's reflection in the cylinder? Yes! (There's a name for this, but I can't at the moment recall what it is.) \b}I don't know either.}

when seen in the right way, is the picture of a person? Yes.

Is the cylinder intended to be used as a mirror? Is it used as a mirror in this case? Yes to both.
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Is the picture painted on the tablecloth?

I Googled it -- the word is "anamorphosis."
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is the person a recognisable individual?

is the red white and blue in the picture a flag? the stars and stripes? the union jack?
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Is the picture painted on the tablecloth? Yes.

I Googled it -- the word is "anamorphosis." Yes, that's it. This turns out to be a fairly famous picture, so google carefully.

is the person a recognisable individual? Yes.

is the red white and blue in the picture a flag? No. the stars and stripes? the union jack?
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The only example I saw was one of a column, but since this is a person, I think I'm in the clear.

Did this happen in wartime? Is the person related to war? To a specific war?
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Did this happen in wartime? No. Is the person related to war? Mildly.To a specific war? If you can call it a war.
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The British Royal family - any of them? however loosely interpreted.
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The British Royal family - any of them? however loosely interpreted. Yes - very loosely interpreted.
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alive? male? military?

how loose? Kaiser Bill? Juan Carlos?

a descendant of Queen Victoria? someone who married in?
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Bonnie Prince Charlie, 1745 And All That?
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Bonnie Prince Charlie, 1745 And All That? This.

Spoiler:

When I visited Scotland last year, I found a very interesting "anamorphosis" in a museum. Since it was illegal to have a picture of Bonnie Prince Charlie, one way to get around the prohibition was to have such a painting, which looked like a simple stain on the tablecloth to any searchers. After supper, the host would bring out a metal cylinder which would reflect his picture, and the guests would quietly drink to the "Prince over the water."
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While holding their glass of wine over a glass of water.

Like I said (in "Arrested Development") being an Anglophile does pay off, if only in puzzleland.
Nice puzzle, BTW.

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