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| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7285 Registered: 8-2001 |
14-year-old Elinda may seem to have ideal parents. They give her lots of attention and concern whenever she wants it, but they leave it entirely up to her whether to come home for dinner and even whether to stay out all night. She is delighted with this, until she realizes that. . . . | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4474 Registered: 9-2010 |
That...hmm... Elinda = human female? True story? FYOI? FSEI? | ||
| Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo)
New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4910 Registered: 5-2003 |
... they don't give her any money to spend? | ||
| Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan)
New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 378 Registered: 7-2011 |
... that, as star of the TV show that her parents run, she had better shape up? :D Is she involved in the arts? In sports? Including cheerleading, gymnastics? In special academic programs? Does she have a boyfriend who is related to this situation? Are other members of the family relevent? Is she a twin? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2067 Registered: 2-2011 |
that they don't care what happens to her? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7286 Registered: 8-2001 |
Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin) New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4474 Registered: 9-2010 Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2011 - 12:33 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) That...hmm... Elinda = human female? yes True story? FYOI? FSEI? it's based on my family Jenburdoo (Jenburdoo) New member Username: Jenburdoo Post Number: 4910 Registered: 5-2003 Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2011 - 5:01 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) ... they don't give her any money to spend? no Fionakelleghan (Fionakelleghan) New member Username: Fionakelleghan Post Number: 378 Registered: 7-2011 Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2011 - 7:55 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) ... that, as star of the TV show that her parents run, she had better shape up? noo:D Is she involved in the arts? irrel In sports? ditto Including cheerleading, gymnastics? ditto In special academic programs? dotto Does she have a boyfriend who is related to this situation? no Are other members of the family relevent? no Is she a twinb{ irrel} Shez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2067 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2011 - 8:55 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) that they don't care what happens to her? no--the idea that liberal parents don't care about their kids is a myth to justify authoritarianism, I think | ||
| Kdoc (Kdoc)
New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 1235 Registered: 7-2001 |
until she realises that making decisions for oneself can be harder than having them made for you? that making decisions for oneself means you have no one to blame when things go wrong? that making decisons for oneself may mean you are more cautious? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2079 Registered: 2-2011 |
that she has nothing to rebel against? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7288 Registered: 8-2001 |
Kdoc (Kdoc) New member Username: Kdoc Post Number: 1235 Registered: 7-2001 Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2011 - 8:36 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) until she realises that making decisions for oneself can be harder than having them made for you? that making decisions for oneself means you have no one to blame when things go wrong? no that making decisons for oneself may mean you are more cautious? no Shez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2079 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2011 - 8:56 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) that she has nothing to rebel against? no | ||
| Balin (Balin)
New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15138 Registered: 4-2010 |
Does her realization concern her? Her parents? Their reasons for allowing her to stay out late? | ||
| Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 328 Registered: 7-2011 |
Is her realization more on a practical level? She can stay up as late as she wants to, but she will also be responsible for getting herself up and off to school in the morning? Without hitting the snooze button more than once? OTRT? OTWT? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7290 Registered: 8-2001 |
Balin (Balin) New member Username: Balin Post Number: 15138 Registered: 4-2010 Posted on Monday, October 03, 2011 - 1:05 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does her realization concern her? yesHer parents? yes Their reasons for allowing her to stay out late? yes Solitiare (Solitiare) New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 328 Registered: 7-2011 Posted on Monday, October 03, 2011 - 1:31 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is her realization more on a practical level? noShe can stay up as late as she wants to, but she will also be responsible for getting herself up and off to school in the morning? no Without hitting the snooze button more than once? no OTRT? no OTWT? yes | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 832 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is there some financial advantage to the parents that Elinda stays out later? Or social advantage? Like more time alone? Or more time to spend with friends/hobbies? Is it actually better for the parents the longer Elinda stays out? Or the more often she stays out? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7291 Registered: 8-2001 |
Plebeian (Plebeian) New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 832 Registered: 7-2006 Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2011 - 10:14 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is there some financial advantage to the parents that Elinda stays out later? no Or social advantage? no Like more time alone? noOr more time to spend with friends/hobbies? no Is it actually better for the parents the longer Elinda stays out? no Or the more often she stays out? no | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4450 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is their reason for acting like this detrimental to her? Is she in some kind of danger? Are her parents deceiving her? Is her future relevant? | ||
| Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn)
New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 1594 Registered: 9-2010 |
Based on the title.... libertarianism relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7292 Registered: 8-2001 |
Galfisk (Galfisk) New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4450 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Wednesday, October 05, 2011 - 12:17 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is their reason for acting like this detrimental to her? noishIs she in some kind of danger? noAre her parents deceiving her? no Is her future relevant? yesish Gregoryuconn (Gregoryuconn) New member Username: Gregoryuconn Post Number: 1594 Registered: 9-2010 Posted on Wednesday, October 05, 2011 - 3:17 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Based on the title.... libertarianism relevant?not in the political sense, just in the social sense of not putting lots of restrictions on your children | ||
| Galfisk (Galfisk)
New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4483 Registered: 9-2009 |
Is her realization correct? Does her parents care that she knows the reason? Did they hide the reason? Relevant what they do when she's away? Relevant what she does when she's away? Money involved? Do they want to save on food by having her stay (and eat) at friends? Or save on some other expense? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7293 Registered: 8-2001 |
Galfisk (Galfisk) New member Username: Galfisk Post Number: 4483 Registered: 9-2009 Posted on Friday, October 07, 2011 - 11:08 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is her realization correct? yes Does her parents care that she knows the reason? probably Did they hide the reason?no Relevant what they do when she's away? no Relevant what she does when she's away? yes Money involved? noDo they want to save on food by having her stay (and eat) at friends? no Or save on some other expense? no | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 853 Registered: 7-2006 |
Are the parents secretly monitoring the girl while she is away from home? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7297 Registered: 8-2001 |
Plebeian (Plebeian) New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 853 Registered: 7-2006 Posted on Friday, October 07, 2011 - 4:15 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Are the parents secretly monitoring the girl while she is away from home? no | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2117 Registered: 2-2011 |
do they want her to be independent because they won't always be around to look out for her? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7299 Registered: 8-2001 |
Shez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2117 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Friday, October 07, 2011 - 9:21 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) do they want her to be independent because they won't always be around to look out for her? irrel | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 243 Registered: 8-2011 |
"Relevant what she does when she's away? yes" Does this activity get her into trouble? Do her parents know about this activity? Is it something that she does or something that she doesn't do that is relevant? Is transportation relevant? Does she become concerned as a teenager? As an adult? (I do not know your age) Upon this realization, is she... upset? afraid? angry? sad? irritated? bored? embarrassed? Same list for her parents, please Is this something she just suddenly thought of? Or did something occur to bring about the realization? Does her realization deal with future... friends? teachers/ professors? bosses? romantic interests? offspring? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7300 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella) New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 243 Registered: 8-2011 Posted on Saturday, October 08, 2011 - 4:09 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) "Relevant what she does when she's away? yes" Does this activity get her into trouble? no Do her parents know about this activity? yes Is it something that she does or something that she doesn't do that is relevant? something that she doesn't do Is transportation relevant? no Does she become concerned as a teenager? probably As an adult? yes (I do not know your age) Upon this realization, is she...responses are indicated as follows: for her, for parents upset? a little, no afraid? no, no angry? probably not, no sad?yesish, no irritated? yes, no bored? no, no embarrassed? yes, no Same list for her parents, please Is this something she just suddenly thought of? irrel Or did something occur to bring about the realization? ditto Does her realization deal with future... not specific to any of these friends? teachers/ professors? bosses? romantic interests? offspring? | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 857 Registered: 7-2006 |
Is there something that she does when a home which the parents would rather she didn't? Like playing music loudly? Playing computer games? Having heating/lights on constantly? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7304 Registered: 8-2001 |
Plebeian (Plebeian) New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 857 Registered: 7-2006 Posted on Monday, October 10, 2011 - 9:31 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Is there something that she does when a home which the parents would rather she didn't? Like playing music loudly? Playing computer games? Having heating/lights on constantly? no to all | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 298 Registered: 8-2011 |
Any other relevant people besides the girl and her parents? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7307 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella) New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 298 Registered: 8-2011 Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 3:44 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Any other relevant people besides the girl and her parents? yope or noish | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 302 Registered: 8-2011 |
The girl's friends? Does she hang out with her friends while not at home? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7309 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella) New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 302 Registered: 8-2011 Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - 8:57 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) The girl's friends?possibly Does she hang out with her friends while not at home? ditto | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 864 Registered: 7-2006 |
Does this girl genuinely stay out late at times? Miss dinner sometimes? Stay out all night sometimes? Are the parents actually unbothered by her staying out? Would this be the same if she stayed out for several days? Is she in some way monitored by the parents when she goes out? Does any specific relevant person accompany her? Or any specific relevant item? | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2144 Registered: 2-2011 |
does she realise that she's never stayed out late or not been home for dinner? because she doesn't want to? because she has no-one to be with late at night? because none of her friends are allowed? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7310 Registered: 8-2001 |
Plebeian (Plebeian) New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 864 Registered: 7-2006 Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2011 - 12:05 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Does this girl genuinely stay out late at times? yes Miss dinner sometimes? often Stay out all night sometimes?yes but very rarely Are the parents actually unbothered by her staying out? yes Would this be the same if she stayed out for several days? I don't know--I'm Elinda & I never did that Is she in some way monitored by the parents when she goes out? no Does any specific relevant person accompany her? no Or any specific relevant item? no Shez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2144 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2011 - 4:32 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) does she realise that she's never stayed out late or not been home for dinner? false assumption. She does stay out late & miss dinner because she doesn't want to? no because she has no-one to be with late at night? no because none of her friends are allowed?no | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 309 Registered: 8-2011 |
Are her parents happy when she comes to this realization? Do they experience any positive emotion? Negative emotion? Or are they pretty neutral? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7311 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella) New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 309 Registered: 8-2011 Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2011 - 8:43 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Are her parents happy when she comes to this realization?It's irrel whether they even know that she comes to this realization. If they do know, they may be a bit unhappy but another emotion is more likely Do they experience any positive emotion? yope (probably) Negative emotion?see previous answers Or are they pretty neutral? see previous answers | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2156 Registered: 2-2011 |
if her parents did know, would they be satisfied that their decisions had achieved the required result? or dissatisfied? is the other emotion a negative one? anger? despair? frustration? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7313 Registered: 8-2001 |
Shez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2156 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Friday, October 14, 2011 - 9:42 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) if her parents did know, would they be satisfied that their decisions had achieved the required result?noish or dissatisfied? yope is the other emotion a negative one? no anger? nodespair? no frustration? no | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2163 Registered: 2-2011 |
amused? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7314 Registered: 8-2001 |
Shez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2163 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Friday, October 14, 2011 - 9:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) amused? yes--that was main reaction in my family | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2172 Registered: 2-2011 |
did you realise that you were quite happy to eat dinner at home and come home at a reasonable hour? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7315 Registered: 8-2001 |
ez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2172 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2011 - 11:17 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) did you realise that you were quite happy to eat dinner at home and come home at a reasonable hour? no | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 333 Registered: 8-2011 |
Had other members of your family (besides you and your parents) come to this realization? Relevant? If so, relevant which family member? Would it help to figure out what you did while away from the house? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7319 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella) New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 333 Registered: 8-2011 Posted on Monday, October 17, 2011 - 4:25 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Had other members of your family (besides you and your parents) come to this realization? irrelRelevant? no If so, relevant which family member? n/a Would it help to figure out what you did while away from the house? yes--& it's even more relevant what my parents thought I did | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 341 Registered: 8-2011 |
I take it that what you did and what your parents thought you did are two different things? What you did- you did alone? with others? outdoors? indoors? technology relevant? What your parents thought- you did alone? with others? outdoors? indoors? technology relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7321 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella) New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 341 Registered: 8-2011 Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - 3:01 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) I take it that what you did and what your parents thought you did are two different things? no!! What you did- you did alone?usually not with others?usually outdoors? usually not indoors? usually technology relevant? no What your parents thought- you did alone? with others? outdoors? indoors? technology relevant?same answers as above, of course | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2187 Registered: 2-2011 |
were you studying? boarding at school? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7324 Registered: 8-2001 |
Shez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2187 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Wednesday, October 19, 2011 - 8:30 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) were you studying? sometimes but not usually boarding at school? no | ||
| Plebeian (Plebeian)
New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 865 Registered: 7-2006 |
Did your parents think you were studying? Every time you were out? (or most times?) | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7326 Registered: 8-2001 |
Plebeian (Plebeian) New member Username: Plebeian Post Number: 865 Registered: 7-2006 Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 7:52 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did your parents think you were studying? not necessarilyEvery time you were out? (or most times?)Remember, they had an accurate idea of what I was doing | ||
| Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 396 Registered: 7-2011 |
Were you gainfully employed? Is transportation involved? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7329 Registered: 8-2001 |
Solitiare (Solitiare) New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 396 Registered: 7-2011 Posted on Friday, October 21, 2011 - 2:50 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Were you gainfully employed? no Is transportation involved? irrel | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 358 Registered: 8-2011 |
Did you think that they thought that you were doing something else (for example- you were going to parties; they knew you were going to parties; you thought they thought you were going to the library)? I hope that didn't sound too confusing! | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7331 Registered: 8-2001 |
2001 Posted on Friday, October 21, 2011 - 5:27 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Solitiare (Solitiare) New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 396 Registered: 7-2011 Posted on Friday, October 21, 2011 - 2:50 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Were you gainfully employed? no Is transportation involved? irrel Ciaobella (Ciaobella) New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 358 Registered: 8-2011 Posted on Friday, October 21, 2011 - 10:48 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did you think that they thought that you were doing something else (for example- you were going to parties; they knew you were going to parties; you thought they thought you were going to the library)? no. I knew that they had a basically accurate view of what I was doing. I hope that didn't sound too confusing! | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 370 Registered: 8-2011 |
Did the way they felt about it surprise you? The reason they felt that way? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7333 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella) New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 370 Registered: 8-2011 Posted on Saturday, October 22, 2011 - 4:51 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Did the way they felt about it surprise you? no. alasThe reason they felt that way? ditto | ||
| Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 399 Registered: 7-2011 |
BTW, were you an only child? Relevant? If not, with older sibling(s)? younger? Relevant? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7338 Registered: 8-2001 |
Solitiare (Solitiare) New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 399 Registered: 7-2011 Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2011 - 1:24 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) BTW, were you an only child? irrelRelevant? no If not, with older sibling(s)? irrel younger? irrelRelevant? no | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 387 Registered: 8-2011 |
Do your parents get some sort of advantage from your absence? from the things you do while you're away? | ||
| Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 400 Registered: 7-2011 |
Few 14-year-olds can drive. Did you walk to where you went to do what you did, or take public transportation? both? sometimes one, sometimes the other? or bicycle? ride a horse? (I don't think that likely, but want to cover all bases.) Is the city/town or type of city/town you lived in relevant? Is the season of the year relevant, or did this happen in all seasons? Could you, would you in the rain? Could you, would you, on the plain? Could you, would you, in the snow? Could you, would you, high or low? ---apologies to Dr. Seuss | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7341 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella) New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 387 Registered: 8-2011 Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2011 - 5:47 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Do your parents get some sort of advantage from your absence? no from the things you do while you're away? Solitiare (Solitiare) no New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 400 Registered: 7-2011 Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2011 - 8:30 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Few 14-year-olds can drive. Did you walk to where you went to do what you did, or take public transportation? both? sometimes one, sometimes the other? or bicycle? ride a horse? (I don't think that likely, but want to cover all bases.) I liked in Brooklyn, & walked or took a bus or subway. As I said, transportation is irrel. Is the city/town or type of city/town you lived in relevant? no Is the season of the year relevant, or did this happen in all seasons? a;ll Could you, would you in the rain? yes Could you, would you, on the plain? yes Could you, would you, in the snow? yes Could you, would you, high or low? yes | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 407 Registered: 8-2011 |
Do you need to be at a particular place to do this? Random guesses: shopping? watching a movie? working? taking a pottery class? working out? volunteering? sipping a latte at an Internet cafe while reading posts on the lateral puzzles forum? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7346 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella) New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 407 Registered: 8-2011 Posted on Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 5:22 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Do you need to be at a particular place to do this? no Random guesses: shopping? possibly watching a movie? dittoworking? no taking a pottery class? no working out? NEVER!!!! volunteering? no sipping a latte at an Internet cafe while reading posts on the lateral puzzles forum? no | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 413 Registered: 8-2011 |
So you were out and about having fun in general. Your parents knew what you were doing. You were happy with the arrangement, until you had a realization. This realization was amusing to your family, but embarrassing for you. Did I understand correctly? You were embarrassed/ upset because: -others knew something you didn't? -you looked silly or stupid to others? -your physical appearance changed? -you misunderstood a situation? that misunderstanding led you to do or say something embarrassing? -your parents did or said something that embarrassed you? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7349 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella) New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 413 Registered: 8-2011 Posted on Friday, October 28, 2011 - 12:34 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) So you were out and about having fun in general. Your parents knew what you were doing. You were happy with the arrangement, until you had a realization. This realization was amusing to your family, but embarrassing for you. Did I understand correctly? Completely! You were embarrassed/ upset because: -others knew something you didn't? no -you looked silly or stupid to others? noish -your physical appearance changed? no -you misunderstood a situation? no that misunderstanding led you to do or say something embarrassing? no -your parents did or said something that embarrassed you?yope | ||
| Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 423 Registered: 7-2011 |
Has it been established if money was involved? If you went shopping, surely it was? did you not have money enough to pay for something, and your parents wouldn't pay for it either? That would be embarassing! | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 418 Registered: 8-2011 |
Had you been unaware of your parents' doings? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7352 Registered: 8-2001 |
Solitiare (Solitiare) New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 423 Registered: 7-2011 Posted on Saturday, October 29, 2011 - 12:33 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Has it been established if money was involved? no & it's irrel If you went shopping, surely it was? I wasn't usually shopping & if I was, the amount of money would be too small to be relevant. did you not have money enough to pay for something, and your parents wouldn't pay for it either? no That would be embarassing! Ciaobella (Ciaobella) New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 418 Registered: 8-2011 Posted on Saturday, October 29, 2011 - 12:39 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Had you been unaware of your parents' doings? no | ||
| Shez (Shez)
New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2249 Registered: 2-2011 |
did you realise that your parents giving you freedom also gave them freedom to do other things? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7355 Registered: 8-2001 |
Shez (Shez) New member Username: Shez Post Number: 2249 Registered: 2-2011 Posted on Saturday, October 29, 2011 - 11:53 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) did you realise that your parents giving you freedom also gave them freedom to do other things? no | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 435 Registered: 8-2011 |
Was this realization about your parents? about yourself? about other people? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7361 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella) New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 435 Registered: 8-2011 Posted on Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 2:07 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Was this realization about your parents? yes yes about yourself? about other people?yesish or yope | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7375 Registered: 8-2001 |
HINT: The most important question asked so far is as follows: Is it something that she does or something that she doesn't do that is relevant? something that she doesn't do. Follow up on it! | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 485 Registered: 8-2011 |
She doesn't do- -something expected? -something irresponsible? -something she should do? -something dangerous? -something beneficial to her parents? -something detrimental to her parents? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7385 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ciaobella (Ciaobella) New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 485 Registered: 8-2011 Posted on Tuesday, November 08, 2011 - 11:29 pm: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) She doesn't do- -something expected? What she does is roughly what her parents expect -something irresponsible? She does not do anything irresponsible -something she should do?What she does is neutral--neither something that she should do not something that she should not do -something dangerous?she does not do anything dangerous -something beneficial to her parents?What she does is neither beneficial nor harmful to her parents -something detrimental to her parents? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7387 Registered: 8-2001 |
RECAP: Add the following to the puzzle statement: Elinda's parents have an accurate idea of the innocuous activities she is engaging in. Their reason for putting so few restrictions on her is embarrassing to her, & her embarrassment is mildly amusing to them. | ||
| Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 466 Registered: 7-2011 |
That she is too tame to get in any kind of troublel? too dull? too plain? too shy? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7391 Registered: 8-2001 |
Solitiare (Solitiare) New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 466 Registered: 7-2011 Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2011 - 5:37 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) That she is too tame to get in any kind of trouble? yes too dull? yes too plain? not really too shy? no ************* SPOILER ****************** When I told my mother that I really appreciated having so few restrictions placed on my when I was growing up (I wasn't expected to come home for dinner & could even stay out all night), she laughed & said, "Well, what were you going to do, have an orgy?" It's hard to think of yourself as an exciting person when your mother thinks you're too nerdy to get into trouble! | ||
| Kayleetonkslupin (Kayleetonkslupin)
New member Username: Kayleetonkslupin Post Number: 4887 Registered: 9-2010 |
lol! aww, poor Nimue. But your puzzles are exciting! (even if they are too hard for a poor kaylee kitteh to solve...) | ||
| Ciaobella (Ciaobella)
New member Username: Ciaobella Post Number: 501 Registered: 8-2011 |
That's funny. Of course, I had a similar upbringing- for the exact same reason! Great puzzle, Nimue! | ||
| Solitiare (Solitiare)
New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 467 Registered: 7-2011 |
Sounds like you didn't know this till years later, when it was too late to rebel. Is this true? Nimue, your puzzles are so deceptively simple that it takes us forever to guess them. Maybe you should make them more difficult\complicated so we could get them sooner! =) Or maybe that's the idea?? | ||
| Nimue (Nimue)
New member Username: Nimue Post Number: 7395 Registered: 8-2001 |
Solitiare (Solitiare) New member Username: Solitiare Post Number: 467 Registered: 7-2011 Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2011 - 2:02 am: Edit PostDelete PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)Ban Poster IP (Moderator/Admin only) Sounds like you didn't know this till years later, when it was too late to rebel. Is this true? yes Nimue, your puzzles are so deceptively simple that it takes us forever to guess them. Maybe you should make them more difficult\complicated so we could get them sooner! =) Or maybe that's the idea?? yes (or maybe I'm just simpleminded!) |
